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[red till i die!!]

The real fear here is that the Chavs and United get someone decent in and overtake us.

It's an understandable fear but IMO there's simply not too many decent managers available at the moment, if any. Chelsea are about to sign Liam Rossenior, I've no idea who that is tbh. Google says he's the manager of a French side and he finished 7th in the league last season, and he previously managed Hull in the Championship. He might turn out to be decent who knows but  his CV is nothing to write home about. Those are the kind of managers that are available at the moment.

I think both Manure and Chelsea jumped the gun on their managers tbh, especially Chelsea. Maresca wasn't a bad manager imo.

I remember Rosenior. Hes English and played mostly in the championship with a few clubs. He might even have played in the prem about 10 years ago with Hull or Brighton but not 100% sure.Chelsea announced him anyway on a 6 year contract    Thats a big gamble but im sure hes delighted    United seem to be leaning towards Olly again, albeit on an interim basis till the summer. Pretty sure thats how he landed the job last time as well.

I think both clubs where rash to sack Maresca and Amorim considering where both clubs where before they took over. United especially have more points on the board now than at this stage last year and are in the hunt for CL. Strange to get rid now and jeopardise that but rumours are that both where having issues with the hierarchy because of their reluctance to promote the youth. Strangely enough similar rumours are doing the rounds about Slot. Was reading he wanted to send Rio on loan this season but was blocked by Hughes and Edwards. They apparently wanted to see a clear pathway into the team this season for both Rio and Nyoni but neither are getting many minutes and they arent happy.

Clubs want to use youth to increase their profile and drive up their value. They represent 100% profit but its a risky strategy for managers at bigger clubs where the demand to constantly compete is sky high. If thats the criteria for the jobs then it rules out a lot of big names who might not see the risk worth taking.

Emery would have been my choice after Klopp and would be again if we decided to part with Slot.

[leeroy74]

Get to the seaon end best we can, pack Slot off on his way and get Alonso in once Real have binned him off

[kazza]

Get to the seaon end best we can, pack Slot off on his way and get Alonso in once Real have binned him off

Why would we want a manager that has been “binned off” by another club for a lack of success?

Sometimes different is not necessarily better.

Simply the question we need to ask is would another manager with the same exact hand that Slot got this year have done a better job? If so, is he available.

[leeroy74]

Get to the seaon end best we can, pack Slot off on his way and get Alonso in once Real have binned him off

Why would we want a manager that has been “binned off” by another club for a lack of success?

Sometimes different is not necessarily better.

Simply the question we need to ask is would another manager with the same exact hand that Slot got this year have done a better job? If so, is he available.

Because Real Madrid isn't a way to gauge the merits of a manager. Very few of the greatest ever managers have succeeded there. It's runs by its own laws and I wouldn't write off a manager because he's got the sack from Madrid for one minute.

[leeroy74]

I mean look at these 2 for example...

Jose Mourinho – May 2010 to June 2013 (mutual agreement) – 178 games, 72 per cent won – Honours; 1 La Liga, 1 Copa del Rey, 1 Spanish Super Cup

Carlo Ancelotti – June 2013 to May 2015 (sacked) – 119 games, 75 per cent won – Honours: 1 Copa del Rey, 1 Champions League, 1 Club World Cup, 1 Copa del Rey.

Won a load of trophies, 72-75% win rate, both sacked to some extent.

Alonso will get the boot or 'mutual consent' but that does not make him a reject incapable of doing a better job than the charlaton we have now. He's a better option then Slot.

[woof woof !]

Gotta go with Leeroy here.
Personally I'm bored shitless watching the team under Slott.
Might of said it before but I'll say it again ,"I'd rather see our team die on their feet than live on their knees" 

[Reg]

Yeah but there's no need for RM to fire Alonso, they're currently in second place: Played 19, won 14, drawn 3, lost 2, points 45. Win % 74.

Feck me if that's what failure looks like..... and yet Amorin walked away with £10 million on 38%.

[kazza]

Last year we played the same way, we played for control. The difference between this year and last is last year we were tight at the back thanks to a very solid Konate and VVD and last year our forwards (namely Salah) put the ball in the net. This year both defenders have made a lot of mistakes and our forwards are not taking chances. It seems strange to me to be asking for the manager that just won the title, got young and very good players on long contracts to be sacked (we are still in a CL place). It won’t happen and will just make the journey harder for those that want it.

We don’t look good admittedly but it’s a transition period with decent intelligent players (except Kerkez  ) that will find the way. This year no player has had a standout year. Last year Salah, VVD, Konate, Gravenberch and Allison, were world class. MacAllister, Robertson, Diaz, Trent were very good. I still don’t see Slot as the problem, I am frustrated at the cliff we have fallen off but I think sacking a title winning manager after less than two years and after a massive investment in the squad would be detrimental in the long term.

Edit- I’m not saying Slot is the second coming, I just think he deserves more time before the fans turn on him.

[7_Kewell]

Alonso has left Real, watch the rumours build if Slot fails to improve us over the next few months.

[redshade]

Real Madrid are ruthless, his only 4 points off top, same losses as Barca. Surprised they sacked him. Arbeloa has taken over now lol another ex player.

BBC Sport columnist Guillem Balague said that there was 'a clash between a coach with a clear methodology and players who want to rely on instinct.'

[damjan193]

What a ridiculous club, he wasn't even doing that badly. They lost to Barca the other day and in a league where only those two clubs matter, I guess not losing to them is the most important thing.

Anyway, as things stand I think Arne will get atleast until the end of the season for sure. We've definitely performed below expectations but we're still in a CL spot despite a lot of changes happening this summer with players leaving and new players coming in that haven't started performing the best they can yet, plus we've been unlucky with injuries and not to mention Slot won the league last season. I don't think he'll get the sack soon but the club will definitely consider their options come the end of the season imo, especially if Xabi is still available.

[red till i die!!]

I'd hate to be a supporter of either Barca or Real as they couldn't give a shyte about their fans and make a mockery of that league. They where in the final of the league cup and played it out in Saudi Arabia  That is pure greed right there.

Alonso couldn't handle the massive egos at the club and that was his downfall. Nothing to do with league position and more to do with players not liking him. Absolute fool to go there anyway.

I wouldnt be binning Slot for him anyway. If they decide to part ways at the end of the season then hes an option but thats it.

[damjan193]

With Alonso now sacked I hope it won't be Jurgen that goes to Madrid. It won't be as bad as him going to say Man United but I'd say it'll be almost on par if he went to Chelsea or the like. I consider RM as big of a rival as some English teams, especially after some events we've had with them in recent years that we've been on the receiving end of (lost two CL finals against them with Klopp in charge, they got Trent on a free etc.). Last thing I want is to see our legendary manager going to them.

[leeroy74]

They've already appointed their next manager so no chance of Klopp going there. As for Alonso... he resigned apparently. Mbappe thinks he runs that club and to be honest it would seem true. Saudi money getting thrown all over the place in Spain, Spanish FA cup final held in Saudi? WTF? Real Madrid is a poisonous place for anyone and once Arbeloa gets the boot because Mbappe says so, I just hope Klopp steers well clear of the stinking place.

as for Slot, I still feel he's done here and a summer farewell could be on the cards. Alonso to take over? Why not. What are the other options??

[Reg]

I only have one question: could Alonso get more out of our squad than Slot is currently?

Other considerations: Is Alonso's back room team better than Slot's and would Alonso commit for 5 years.
If all the above is Yes then I wouldn't bat an eyelid if Slot left.
If the answer is no then we carry on as we are.