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[maguskwt]

How there can be comparisons of Aquilani's purchase and Carrolls is beyond me. The only similarity is they were signed injured. Aquilani didn't play a game for months FFS! Carroll is due back by the end of the month. Talk about twisted logic.

As for the concept of Skrtel as a sweeper, it's never going to happen. The sweeper system died out a long time ago, primarily because it makes keeping an offside line impossible. The flat back line is a constant nowadays solely because of the offside rule.

That's the formation we played against stoke and Chelsea. Skrtle swept everything that managed to pass carra and agger. That's the only way he can be stable right now, the centre in three CB's. He's too unstable as a CB  of 2 CB's as we have seen against west brom and numerous matches under Roy.

[NANNY RED]

7 assists and 2 goals in the limited amount of games tells me he was a decent player who would have got even better if he was managed properly.
Would love to see him in the current squad now that were playing attacking creative football

this.

I Agree .

[SouthCoastShankly]

How there can be comparisons of Aquilani's purchase and Carrolls is beyond me. The only similarity is they were signed injured. Aquilani didn't play a game for months FFS! Carroll is due back by the end of the month. Talk about twisted logic.

As for the concept of Skrtel as a sweeper, it's never going to happen. The sweeper system died out a long time ago, primarily because it makes keeping an offside line impossible. The flat back line is a constant nowadays solely because of the offside rule.

That's the formation we played against stoke and Chelsea. Skrtle swept everything that managed to pass carra and agger. That's the only way he can be stable right now, the centre in three CB's. He's too unstable as a CB  of 2 CB's as we have seen against west brom and numerous matches under Roy.

I disagree. I saw a flat back three (as did pretty much every report on the game).

[maguskwt]

How there can be comparisons of Aquilani's purchase and Carrolls is beyond me. The only similarity is they were signed injured. Aquilani didn't play a game for months FFS! Carroll is due back by the end of the month. Talk about twisted logic.

As for the concept of Skrtel as a sweeper, it's never going to happen. The sweeper system died out a long time ago, primarily because it makes keeping an offside line impossible. The flat back line is a constant nowadays solely because of the offside rule.

That's the formation we played against stoke and Chelsea. Skrtle swept everything that managed to pass carra and agger. That's the only way he can be stable right now, the centre in three CB's. He's too unstable as a CB  of 2 CB's as we have seen against west brom and numerous matches under Roy.

I disagree. I saw a flat back three (as did pretty much every report on the game).

Mate we will agree to disagree...

playing a sweeper doesn't mean he has to be behind the other CB's or in front, even though traditionally it was in that form. The german sweeper like Beckenbauer was a ball carrying sweeper who initiated attack and hence played in fron of the CB's. In italian Catenaccio, the sweepers are more defensive. It's more of a role in that the sweeper doesn't stick to a marked opponent. In our case Kenny played him like a defensive catenaccio sweeper. If you watch the game... Carra and Agger had more of the ball and they pressured the opponents first. I.E. they were the first line of defensive. Skrtel was hanging around in the centre most of the time. When the ball managed to pass carra and agger he swept the ball. That's all I was saying.

And if you take word for word all those so called expert reports then I'm afraid you are being naive. Most of the time they know less than the more knowledgeable fans. They can't even describe Kenny's 5-3-2/3-5-2 system properly.

[PabloMedina28]

I think if the truth was known i dont think Kenny rates him as a player, he is not going to come out and say that when he is trying to sell him.

getting him in the first place was a very big mistake.

What makes you say that?

[PabloMedina28]

The guy got 7 assists and 2 goals in what? 20 odd games? and that was his settling in period, so i dont understand people questioning his ability to be honest. The guy when fit would stroll into our team. I think him and Adam in midfield would be a mouthwatering prospect, the passing would be a joy to watch. The whole needing DM thing is a myth for me as the best way to defend is to not give the opposition the ball.

His agent has said if they dont pay what was agreed hes coming back here so we wont get screwed with 5 million.

[Waldo]

I would welcome him back. Play him an advanced midfield role alongside Gerrard and Meireles.

[metalhead]

great squad player if he comes back nothing more, good option to have.

[Greavesie]

I would welcome him back. Play him an advanced midfield role alongside Gerrard and Meireles.

I honestly think an advanced midfield 3 is an awful idea. Keeping him may allow us to rest players more often i.e. rotate but in no way would I advocate those 3 in an advanced midfield

[PabloMedina28]

Why is he nothing more then a squad player? Some people on here dont think Lucas should be in the starting 11 and the reasons they give are that he pretty much lacks what Aqualiani has, yet then they say Aquas not good enough to get in the team? ? Why could he not partner someone in midfield like Adam or DeFour next year?

This is his main position not behind the striiker he can spray the ball around alonso esque all day long, im abit baffled when people say he couldnt get in the team.

[parchpea]

Was a bad piece of business and lads got nothing to offer us or any future in Liverpool. He will be hawked out for a fraction of the price we paid and the club takes the hit and both parties will move on simple as that. New owners, management and outlook with their own ideas and targets. Acqua wont come back here now.

[mart]

This is his main position not behind the striiker he can spray the ball around alonso esque all day long, im abit baffled when people say he couldnt get in the team.

Probably because he is not that great at tackling.

[Greavesie]

Why is he nothing more then a squad player? Some people on here dont think Lucas should be in the starting 11 and the reasons they give are that he pretty much lacks what Aqualiani has, yet then they say Aquas not good enough to get in the team? ? Why could he not partner someone in midfield like Adam or DeFour next year?

This is his main position not behind the striiker he can spray the ball around alonso esque all day long, im abit baffled when people say he couldnt get in the team.

Firstly, Aqua and Lucas are two different types of players. One of which we have in abundance right now (Gerrard, Meireles, Cole etc), the other we don't. That's speaking as if he would play behind the striker. If we left out Lucas and played Aqua instead right now we'd get pooed on.

To be perfectly honest I'm not sure where Aqua's preferred position is, perhaps that's testament to how much he's stood out.

[mart]

One of which we have in abundance right now (Gerrard, Meireles, Cole etc), the other we don't.

Yes unfortunatly thats probably the main problem with the squad. Its not balanced at all. Still you could fit most of those players in a good team if you are willing to move Gerrard out of the centre.

Or perhaps I should say if Gerrard is willing to play anywhere else.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Why is he nothing more then a squad player? Some people on here dont think Lucas should be in the starting 11 and the reasons they give are that he pretty much lacks what Aqualiani has, yet then they say Aquas not good enough to get in the team? ? Why could he not partner someone in midfield like Adam or DeFour next year?

This is his main position not behind the striiker he can spray the ball around alonso esque all day long, im abit baffled when people say he couldnt get in the team.

It's all well and good having your head in the sky over Aquilani, if Aquilani and Adam did play the CM pairing where do we play Meireles and lets not forget Gerrard the captain.

You do spout some tosh Pablo