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[D___C]

Magnificent performance... primarily because he had someone of similar quality to feed. Take out Gerrard, all of Suarez's great work would have been unrewarded.

Give him a top partner to do similar with week in week out (as he does for Uruguay with Forlan), we will see the very best of him.

[sgs]

Meanwhile, Arsenal are investigating a complaint that a supporter racially abused a Newcastle player during Monday’s night’s 2-1 win at the Emirates.

Television footage appeared to show a fan aiming a racist tirade towards the pitch with Newcastle defender Danny Simpson closest to the fans.

Club officials, who intend to call in the police, were yesterday studying the film and have promised to ban him for life if he can be identified and the case is proved.

Interesting that this story is not getting much play...

[stmichael]

still goes down too easily blah blah blah

[Boxscarf]

still goes down too easily blah blah blah

I found Arsene Wenger's comment rather ironic, rather like the time he was whinging about teams being too physical with Arsenal, yet players like Alex Song and Emmanuel Frimpong aren't physical footballers eh? Arsene Wenger is an idiot of the highest order, isn't it a shame that Arsene didn't mention Bale's dive in the 5-2 win over Spurs? It seems Arsene has something against Dalglish.

[stmichael]

all i've heard since yesterday from rival fans is how he goes down too easily. yeah he does but lets face it he isn't the only one. nobody even mentioned it until whiskeynose brought it up and all of a sudden every fan and commentator jumped on the bandwagon.

of course the likes of ashley young and gareth bale dive week in week out and nobody bats an eyelid. young blatantly dived for the united penalty on sunday and MOTD didn't even mention it. laughable.

[Boxscarf]

Ashley Young is probably the biggest diver in the League - I remember watching Manchester United vs Manchester City when United lost 6-1, Young dived no less than 4x in the opening 10-15 minutes. James Milner just laughed it off, fair play to him, if that was me, I'd be bringing his antics to the attention of the referee.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

wenger and ferguson are just hypocrites hoping they can build enough pressure around suarez so that he decides to call it a day in england.
what about the likes of pires, ronaldo, van nistelrooy, eduardo, ffs earlier this season theo walcott admitted he dived to get a pen against leeds and as for nani even united fans say the way he carries on sometimes is an embarrassment to their shirt.

[Thommo's perm]

all i've heard since yesterday from rival fans is how he goes down too easily. yeah he does but lets face it he isn't the only one. nobody even mentioned it until whiskeynose brought it up and all of a sudden every fan and commentator jumped on the bandwagon.

of course the likes of ashley young and gareth bale dive week in week out and nobody bats an eyelid. young blatantly dived for the united penalty on sunday and MOTD didn't even mention it. laughable.

Dont often agree with Dunn but he has a point:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion ... 76674.html

[Simari]

still goes down too easily blah blah blah

I found Arsene Wenger's comment rather ironic, rather like the time he was whinging about teams being too physical with Arsenal, yet players like Alex Song and Emmanuel Frimpong aren't physical footballers eh? Arsene Wenger is an idiot of the highest order, isn't it a shame that Arsene didn't mention Bale's dive in the 5-2 win over Spurs? It seems Arsene has something against Dalglish.

Frimpong is out on loan. They only phsyical presence you speak of is Song and although he is a classed as a defensive midfielder, he isn't really physical in defense.

[D___C]

Monday night showed perfectly why Suarez needs similar level players around him. Both himself and Gerrard were involved in all three goals.. Luis setting up Stevie with two, and the other it was Luis who orchestrated the move that led to Kelly's shot being spilled, which then rebounded to Gerrard who chipped everyone.

I mentioned this on another thread, but its more pertinent in here, the accusation by some of our less learned fans have accused Luis of being selfish.. the fact of the matter is he hasnt had anyone up with him to feed, as he had last night with Stevie, so hes regularly had to go it alone. Hes so swift on the turn that lesser players cant keep up with his mobilty, they are 30 yards further back. His technique is also world class and any link up on the floor is killed with lesser players. He has looked his best with Kuyt or Maxi alongside him, With Uruguay he has a top partner to feed in Diego Forlan...you only need to look at the unselfishness of his displays in the Copa America. If Luis has a top player either alongside him (Forlan), or a midfielder bombing on (Gerrard) to join up with him, you see the very very best of him. If Steven had not played last night, the two assists that Luis made would not have happened, and his clever turn and link up play that led to the opening goal would also have gone unrewarded. He would have came off the field with nothing to show for as has been the case in many games this season, but because Steven was there he had two assists and a big hand in the other one.

Luis is a world class #7, one of the best creative forwards on the planet. He turns defences inside out. What he needs is to have a top class #9 to provide... its what McAteer stated after the derby.. if we had a quality #9 our season would be very very different. Bringing in such a player is top priority, and then we will see the great work of Luis get rewarded week in week out.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Monday night showed perfectly why Suarez needs similar level players around him. Both himself and Gerrard were involved in all three goals.. Luis setting up Stevie with two, and the other it was Luis who orchestrated the move that led to Kelly's shot being spilled, which then rebounded to Gerrard who chipped everyone.

I mentioned this on another thread, but its more pertinent in here, the accusation by some of our less learned fans have accused Luis of being selfish.. the fact of the matter is he hasnt had anyone up with him to feed, as he had last night with Stevie, so hes regularly had to go it alone. Hes so swift on the turn that lesser players cant keep up with his mobilty, they are 30 yards further back. His technique is also world class and any link up on the floor is killed with lesser players. He has looked his best with Kuyt or Maxi alongside him, With Uruguay he has a top partner to feed in Diego Forlan...you only need to look at the unselfishness of his displays in the Copa America. If Luis has a top player either alongside him (Forlan), or a midfielder bombing on (Gerrard) to join up with him, you see the very very best of him. If Steven had not played last night, the two assists that Luis made would not have happened, and his clever turn and link up play that led to the opening goal would also have gone unrewarded. He would have came off the field with nothing to show for as has been the case in many games this season, but because Steven was there he had two assists and a big hand in the other one.

Luis is a world class #7, one of the best creative forwards on the planet. He turns defences inside out. What he needs is to have a top class #9 to provide... its what McAteer stated after the derby.. if we had a quality #9 our season would be very very different. Bringing in such a player is top priority, and then we will see the great work of Luis get rewarded week in week out.

it worked perfectly well on tuesday with suarez and carroll up front, we gave an everton side who were unbeaten in 10 games and had recently turned over the likes of city, chelsea and spurs all they could handle.
i dont know why you are going out of your way to invent some bizarre theory about gerrard and suarez being the only ones who could link up, it sounds like you are trying to convince yourself more than anything else.
carroll put suarez clean through with a header but he missed and he put him clean through on goal with a deft pass in the second half but suarez tried an ambitious shot with the outside of his right foot and missed again, and what about that great first time through ball that henderson put through for suarez but he was outpaced by distin when at one point he looked clean through? it wasnt just gerrard linking up with suarez it was everyone, suarez is that type of player he can link up with anyone, you are just making up some theory to back up your anti andy carroll agenda.
you must really be getting worried that carroll and suarez might click if your using jason mcateer to back up your argument.

[fivecups]

Monday night showed perfectly why Suarez needs similar level players around him. Both himself and Gerrard were involved in all three goals.. Luis setting up Stevie with two, and the other it was Luis who orchestrated the move that led to Kelly's shot being spilled, which then rebounded to Gerrard who chipped everyone.

I mentioned this on another thread, but its more pertinent in here, the accusation by some of our less learned fans have accused Luis of being selfish.. the fact of the matter is he hasnt had anyone up with him to feed, as he had last night with Stevie, so hes regularly had to go it alone. Hes so swift on the turn that lesser players cant keep up with his mobilty, they are 30 yards further back. His technique is also world class and any link up on the floor is killed with lesser players. He has looked his best with Kuyt or Maxi alongside him, With Uruguay he has a top partner to feed in Diego Forlan...you only need to look at the unselfishness of his displays in the Copa America. If Luis has a top player either alongside him (Forlan), or a midfielder bombing on (Gerrard) to join up with him, you see the very very best of him. If Steven had not played last night, the two assists that Luis made would not have happened, and his clever turn and link up play that led to the opening goal would also have gone unrewarded. He would have came off the field with nothing to show for as has been the case in many games this season, but because Steven was there he had two assists and a big hand in the other one.

Luis is a world class #7, one of the best creative forwards on the planet. He turns defences inside out. What he needs is to have a top class #9 to provide... its what McAteer stated after the derby.. if we had a quality #9 our season would be very very different. Bringing in such a player is top priority, and then we will see the great work of Luis get rewarded week in week out.

Why did you change to an alter-ego  ???

[devaney]

What actually changed against Everton. Are Gerrard and Suarez beginning to understand each others game and become a genuine partnership because lets face it they haven't played a lot together? Did Gerrard just have an exceptionally good game after being b.ollocked for the last three awful Premiership results? Were Everton defensively poor? Everton have been playing quite well recently and we have been poor especially against Sunderland so what happened? Stevie was playing much further forward which he hasn't been doing recently. Has Kenny taken off the defensive reins and allowed the team more freedom now that fourth place looks almost impossible.The way that we played against Everton was similar to the way that we played under Kenny in the second half of last season.

[Thommo's perm]

Monday night showed perfectly why Suarez needs similar level players around him. Both himself and Gerrard were involved in all three goals.. Luis setting up Stevie with two, and the other it was Luis who orchestrated the move that led to Kelly's shot being spilled, which then rebounded to Gerrard who chipped everyone.

I mentioned this on another thread, but its more pertinent in here, the accusation by some of our less learned fans have accused Luis of being selfish.. the fact of the matter is he hasnt had anyone up with him to feed, as he had last night with Stevie, so hes regularly had to go it alone. Hes so swift on the turn that lesser players cant keep up with his mobilty, they are 30 yards further back. His technique is also world class and any link up on the floor is killed with lesser players. He has looked his best with Kuyt or Maxi alongside him, With Uruguay he has a top partner to feed in Diego Forlan...you only need to look at the unselfishness of his displays in the Copa America. If Luis has a top player either alongside him (Forlan), or a midfielder bombing on (Gerrard) to join up with him, you see the very very best of him. If Steven had not played last night, the two assists that Luis made would not have happened, and his clever turn and link up play that led to the opening goal would also have gone unrewarded. He would have came off the field with nothing to show for as has been the case in many games this season, but because Steven was there he had two assists and a big hand in the other one.

Luis is a world class #7, one of the best creative forwards on the planet. He turns defences inside out. What he needs is to have a top class #9 to provide... its what McAteer stated after the derby.. if we had a quality #9 our season would be very very different. Bringing in such a player is top priority, and then we will see the great work of Luis get rewarded week in week out.

it worked perfectly well on tuesday with suarez and carroll up front, we gave an everton side who were unbeaten in 10 games and had recently turned over the likes of city, chelsea and spurs all they could handle.
i dont know why you are going out of your way to invent some bizarre theory about gerrard and suarez being the only ones who could link up, it sounds like you are trying to convince yourself more than anything else.
carroll put suarez clean through with a header but he missed and he put him clean through on goal with a deft pass in the second half but suarez tried an ambitious shot with the outside of his right foot and missed again, and what about that great first time through ball that henderson put through for suarez but he was outpaced by distin when at one point he looked clean through? it wasnt just gerrard linking up with suarez it was everyone, suarez is that type of player he can link up with anyone, you are just making up some theory to back up your anti andy carroll agenda.
you must really be getting worried that carroll and suarez might click if your using jason mcateer to back up your argument.

Shes always using dubious examples to prove her obsessive point.
Kerry cannot or should I say, will not stop the constant criticism of Carroll. Its like someone with OCD. The pathetic attempt to persuade supporters to hate Carroll and see no good in anything he does is seriously sad and childish.
It does amuse me though, in a strange and perverted way

[andy_g]

while kerry's veiled barbs at andy carroll are missing the point, there is a grain of truth in the argument. generally speaking we haven't been getting enough people forward enough to play off suarez when he's around the box doing something amazing. its not just about this 'proper number 9' its about a general style of play. in the derby gerrard took it by the scruff of the neck and pretty much mopped up from the chaos that suarez causes in the opposition defence.