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Postby devaney » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:11 am

If we beat Wolves and we should, during Suarez's total bans of 9 matches we will have WON 6 LOST 2 DRAWN 1. Just how costly the poor Stoke and Bolton results were won't be known until the end of the season. The team have done very well without Suarez and Lucas.The future looks very positive!

Personally I think Luis will come back stronger than ever. His enforced rest which was long overdue will be a serious benefit to his game.I believe that he will actually revel in the abuse that will be sent his way by some moronic supporters!
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Postby devaney » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:27 am

Basil wrote:My son plays classical guitar and last year learnt a piece by a famous old Spanish guitarist called Francisco Tarrega.

The piece was called Lagrima which means "the kitten" and was Tarrega's nickname for his wife.

My son is just learning a follow up piece which is named after his nickname for his son, it's called "El Negrito".

Tarrega died in 1909 but it shows how this would have been used as an affectionate term.

The rules get changed every few years as to what is acceptable and what isn't. For example describing a black person as coloured is now regarded as offensive and that was not the case in the past. It is difficult for decent non racist non blacks not to make genuine mistakes.I have myself. Just look at how quickly Alan Hansen made a public apology after using the word coloured on Match Of The Day! Genuine racism is an absolute disgrace and everything possible should be done to rid it from society. Genuine mistakes on the other hand are another thing!
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Postby red till i die!! » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
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He is like ''F*ck you evra''  :buttrock

This is what you get when you support your player and teammate, statements, t shirts the lot :buttrock

absolutely loved it when i seen him celebrating like that.
he's going to be a man on a mission when he steps back in.
cant wait :buttrock
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:45 pm

metalhead wrote:I'm 100% with banning the person from attending anymore games for the monkey chants, but seriously jail? Is being racist worse than someone mocking the death of 96 people?

with you on that. That's why I don't understand Terry's case going to court
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Postby mistyred » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:57 pm

I would let the c unt do it to me running at him and kicking his f ckin head in till it explodes would be fine :;):
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:38 pm

Luis Suarez is taking extra English lessons to avoid a repeat of his ban for racially abusing Patrice Evra.
The Liverpool striker was given an eight-match suspension for calling the Manchester United left back ‘negro’ and feels the charge came about because of his lack of understanding of the language.
The word ‘negro’ is commonly used in a non-offensive way in Uruguay but despite arriving in Europe in 2006, Suarez claims he was not aware of its meaning in English.

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Luis is learning englsh because he said something in spanish
Dont you just love this country?
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:51 pm

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3 United fans arrested for spitting on Hboro memorial.

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Postby RedAnt » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:02 pm

fivecups wrote:
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RedAnt wrote:Gus Poyet made a very good point in his defence of his compatriot. He said you can't be racist against a person. You can only be racist against a race.

I couldn't agree more. I have long hair and when I play football, I get called a hairy b*stard, hippy, scruff, the whole works. I respond with fat b*stard, lanky streak of p*ss, spotty f*cker....whatever. Afterwards we all go for a pint and a laugh.

Evra is a discgrace to sport, England, black people, white people, well, the human race.

I'm so glad Saurez has took this all like a man whilst the lil cry baby sucks his thumb with the FA's arm around his shoulder.

i think you've missed the whole point of racism and what it is.

I think so too.

What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:09 pm

RedAnt wrote:
fivecups wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
RedAnt wrote:Gus Poyet made a very good point in his defence of his compatriot. He said you can't be racist against a person. You can only be racist against a race.

I couldn't agree more. I have long hair and when I play football, I get called a hairy b*stard, hippy, scruff, the whole works. I respond with fat b*stard, lanky streak of p*ss, spotty f*cker....whatever. Afterwards we all go for a pint and a laugh.

Evra is a discgrace to sport, England, black people, white people, well, the human race.

I'm so glad Saurez has took this all like a man whilst the lil cry baby sucks his thumb with the FA's arm around his shoulder.

i think you've missed the whole point of racism and what it is.

I think so too.

What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

I think him, Purple nose, the unbiased media and the wise FA have set back the anti racism campaign for years to come
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Postby tonyeh » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:45 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:From Red Cafe, the skanks forum

3 United fans arrested for spitting on Hboro memorial.

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ya know...there's times when I just despise football.

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Postby tonyeh » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:53 pm

RedAnt wrote:
fivecups wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
RedAnt wrote:Gus Poyet made a very good point in his defence of his compatriot. He said you can't be racist against a person. You can only be racist against a race.

I couldn't agree more. I have long hair and when I play football, I get called a hairy b*stard, hippy, scruff, the whole works. I respond with fat b*stard, lanky streak of p*ss, spotty f*cker....whatever. Afterwards we all go for a pint and a laugh.

Evra is a discgrace to sport, England, black people, white people, well, the human race.

I'm so glad Saurez has took this all like a man whilst the lil cry baby sucks his thumb with the FA's arm around his shoulder.

i think you've missed the whole point of racism and what it is.

I think so too.

What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

In many ways, this is correct. Most "racism" reported or called against is really just a case of one person using the lowest common denominator insult against another person. In most instances, the "racist" is nothing of the sort and has simply chosen to use colour or creed in a very harsh (and rather stupid) fashion to extend their aggression toward their immediate opponent.

Real racism, on the other hand, is a far more insidious thing than simply spouting off "you black bastard", or something, in the heat of an argument.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:12 pm

Football is steeped in racism. There are only 2 of the 92 league managers who are black. Uriah Rennie is the only top flight black referee I know of. And of course those bastions of anti-racism, the FA have NO black people on their top committees.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:34 pm

RedAnt wrote:What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

it wasn't just the 'negro' stuff...Suarez called him other stuff too and it wasn't meant in jest.

It's best to move on...but trying to laugh off racist remarks isn't the way forward and it's important to recognise that.
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:40 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
RedAnt wrote:What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

it wasn't just the 'negro' stuff...Suarez called him other stuff too and it wasn't meant in jest.

It's best to move on...but trying to laugh off racist remarks isn't the way forward and it's important to recognise that.

'called him other stuff'

according to who? and with what evidence?

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Postby damjan193 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:02 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
RedAnt wrote:What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

it wasn't just the 'negro' stuff...Suarez called him other stuff too and it wasn't meant in jest.

It's best to move on...but trying to laugh off racist remarks isn't the way forward and it's important to recognise that.

Evra called him stuff too.
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