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[Greavesie]

What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

it wasn't just the 'negro' stuff...Suarez called him other stuff too and it wasn't meant in jest.

It's best to move on...but trying to laugh off racist remarks isn't the way forward and it's important to recognise that.

Evra called him stuff too.

What Evra said can be construed as racism but the main issue is how the case itself was handled, how Evra was able to change his story and not be penalised and how the FA have set a dangerous precedent by holding Suarez accountable of 7 deparate offences with evidence of only one. That's without going through how the transcripts of the two parties were gathered

Evra's word alone seemed to suffice here which is a very very dangerous precedent to set

[metalhead]

The English are just too paranoid about racism

[Greavesie]

The English are just too paranoid about racism

couldnt agree more

[devaney]

What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

it wasn't just the 'negro' stuff...Suarez called him other stuff too and it wasn't meant in jest.

It's best to move on...but trying to laugh off racist remarks isn't the way forward and it's important to recognise that.

'called him other stuff'

according to who? and with what evidence?

That's the point Kewell

Kewell you regard yourself as a Liverpool supporter and you write such utter sh.ite as this. You seem to be the only Liverpool supporter in existence that is prepared to accept Evra's highly questionable version of the events.You also seem to ignore the fact that Evra actually started this somewhat pathetic schoolyard spat in the first place with some disgusting abuse aimed at Suarez.

Evra was one of fourteen children and brought up in the toughest area of Paris. CAN YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT HE HADN'T BEEN SUBJECTED TO BE CALLED A FEW NAMES IN THE PAST!! He is a whinging individual who has done nothing to help eradicate racism. It is the pathetic behaviour of individuals like Evra that actually exacerbates the problem.And if it is correct that Ferguson ensured that Evra went to the referees office after the match to get everything documented then he is no better. Getting the two lads together after the game to apologise to each other and shake hands is what should have happened in a sensible world.

[damjan193]

The English are just too paranoid about racism

Yeah, that's what I've been saying from the start.

Don't want to start this argument again, but I still believe that Evra is the one to blame in this case.

[Greavesie]

What racism is, and what the FA percieve racism to be are very, very different things. If ever you've seen first hand true racial hatred such as I have, the word 'negro' is very lightweight. To cry like Evra did is an insult to all those who have suffered racism.

it wasn't just the 'negro' stuff...Suarez called him other stuff too and it wasn't meant in jest.

It's best to move on...but trying to laugh off racist remarks isn't the way forward and it's important to recognise that.

'called him other stuff'

according to who? and with what evidence?

That's the point Kewell

Kewell you regard yourself as a Liverpool supporter and you write such utter sh.ite as this. You seem to be the only Liverpool supporter in existence that is prepared to accept Evra's highly questionable version of the events.You also seem to ignore the fact that Evra actually started this somewhat pathetic schoolyard spat in the first place with some disgusting abuse aimed at Suarez.

Evra was one of fourteen children and brought up in the toughest and roughest part of Marseille. CAN YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT HE HADN'T BEEN SUBJECTED TO BE CALLED A FEW NAMES IN THE PAST!! He is a whinging individual who has done nothing to help eradicate racism. It is the pathetic behaviour of individuals like Evra that actually exacerbates the problem.And if it is correct that Ferguson ensured that Evra went to the referees office after the match to get everything documented then he is no better. Getting the two lads together after the game to apologise to each other and shake hands is what should have happened in a sensible world.

Evra is one of 25 children...

unless you mean there were 14 brought up in Marsaille and 11 elsewhere then fair enough 

[devaney]

From Red Cafe, the skanks forum

3 United fans arrested for spitting on Hboro memorial.

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ya know...there's times when I just despise football.

Just the same pr.icks that we have that mock United's air crash  disaster. These sort of people are so fkg thick that they really are not worth worrying about. It's no wonder there is so much genuine hatred. It is not quite the friendly banter that Kenny referred to.

[metalhead]

I think its more sick to mock the death of innocent people than racial abuse. Why don't the FA do something about 5000 Manc fans who chanted ''murdurers'' and ''it should have been more than 96'' in yesterday's game. Oh wait... they weren't being racist

[7_Kewell]

Kewell you regard yourself as a Liverpool supporter and you write such utter sh.ite as this. You seem to be the only Liverpool supporter in existence that is prepared to accept Evra's highly questionable version of the events.You also seem to ignore the fact that Evra actually started this somewhat pathetic schoolyard spat in the first place with some disgusting abuse aimed at Suarez.

Evra was one of fourteen children and brought up in the toughest area of Paris. CAN YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT HE HADN'T BEEN SUBJECTED TO BE CALLED A FEW NAMES IN THE PAST!! He is a whinging individual who has done nothing to help eradicate racism. It is the pathetic behaviour of individuals like Evra that actually exacerbates the problem.And if it is correct that Ferguson ensured that Evra went to the referees office after the match to get everything documented then he is no better. Getting the two lads together after the game to apologise to each other and shake hands is what should have happened in a sensible world.

so let me get this right, just because Evra has been racially abused in the past, it's ok to do it again?  What utter b0ll0cks. And your suggestion that a handshake solves racism shows what little you know about the subject.
Have you READ the report?  Suarez admitted to calling him "blackie"..and saying "i don't talk to black people"  Suarez also changed his story THREE TIMES, which made his account unreliable.

Suarez ADMITTED making racist remarks and what sadens me if some fans (like yourself) are trying to trivialise racism to get one over another football team. It’s pathetic lad. Insulting someone over the colour of their skin isn't acceptable, no matter how much of a c**t the person in question. And your joke excuses leave me to believe you’re an idiot.

[7_Kewell]

I think its more sick to mock the death of innocent people than racial abuse. Why don't the FA do something about 5000 Manc fans who chanted ''murdurers'' and ''it should have been more than 96'' in yesterday's game. Oh wait... they weren't being racist

it's all wrong...and the people spitting at the memorial should be banned from going to Anfield AND Old Trafford.

[metalhead]

Kewell you regard yourself as a Liverpool supporter and you write such utter sh.ite as this. You seem to be the only Liverpool supporter in existence that is prepared to accept Evra's highly questionable version of the events.You also seem to ignore the fact that Evra actually started this somewhat pathetic schoolyard spat in the first place with some disgusting abuse aimed at Suarez.

Evra was one of fourteen children and brought up in the toughest area of Paris. CAN YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT HE HADN'T BEEN SUBJECTED TO BE CALLED A FEW NAMES IN THE PAST!! He is a whinging individual who has done nothing to help eradicate racism. It is the pathetic behaviour of individuals like Evra that actually exacerbates the problem.And if it is correct that Ferguson ensured that Evra went to the referees office after the match to get everything documented then he is no better. Getting the two lads together after the game to apologise to each other and shake hands is what should have happened in a sensible world.

so let me get this right, just because Evra has been racially abused in the past, it's ok to do it again?  What utter b0ll0cks. And your suggestion that a handshake solves racism shows what little you know about the subject.
Have you READ the report?  Suarez admitted to calling him "blackie"..and saying "i don't talk to black people"  Suarez also changed his story THREE TIMES, which made his account unreliable.

Suarez ADMITTED making racist remarks and what sadens me if some fans (like yourself) are trying to trivialise racism to get one over another football team. It’s pathetic lad. Insulting someone over the colour of their skin isn't acceptable, no matter how much of a c**t the person in question. And your joke excuses leave me to believe you’re an idiot.

you clearly did not read the report, Suarez denied Evra's story

[7_Kewell]

Kewell you regard yourself as a Liverpool supporter and you write such utter sh.ite as this. You seem to be the only Liverpool supporter in existence that is prepared to accept Evra's highly questionable version of the events.You also seem to ignore the fact that Evra actually started this somewhat pathetic schoolyard spat in the first place with some disgusting abuse aimed at Suarez.

Evra was one of fourteen children and brought up in the toughest area of Paris. CAN YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT HE HADN'T BEEN SUBJECTED TO BE CALLED A FEW NAMES IN THE PAST!! He is a whinging individual who has done nothing to help eradicate racism. It is the pathetic behaviour of individuals like Evra that actually exacerbates the problem.And if it is correct that Ferguson ensured that Evra went to the referees office after the match to get everything documented then he is no better. Getting the two lads together after the game to apologise to each other and shake hands is what should have happened in a sensible world.

so let me get this right, just because Evra has been racially abused in the past, it's ok to do it again?  What utter b0ll0cks. And your suggestion that a handshake solves racism shows what little you know about the subject.
Have you READ the report?  Suarez admitted to calling him "blackie"..and saying "i don't talk to black people"  Suarez also changed his story THREE TIMES, which made his account unreliable.

Suarez ADMITTED making racist remarks and what sadens me if some fans (like yourself) are trying to trivialise racism to get one over another football team. It’s pathetic lad. Insulting someone over the colour of their skin isn't acceptable, no matter how much of a c**t the person in question. And your joke excuses leave me to believe you’re an idiot.

you clearly did not read the report, Suarez denied Evra's story

Suarez is guilty of the offence because he's made racial insults and admitted as much to the ref after the game.

He then tried to change his story when confronted by the FA and they’ve seen straight through it.

[metalhead]

lol ok whatever, I won't even bother arguing yeh Evra was saying the truth he is a good lad always truthful never contriversial. As for Suarez, he is the devil I can't believe he told Evra a ''blackie'' seven times and told him ''he doesn't speak to blacks'' what was he thinking? why is he still playing for this club?

[7_Kewell]

lol ok whatever, I won't even bother arguing yeh Evra was saying the truth he is a good lad always truthful never contriversial. As for Suarez, he is the devil I can't believe he told Evra a ''blackie'' seven times and told him ''he doesn't speak to blacks'' what was he thinking? why is he still playing for this club?

Suarez isn't the "devil" or - in my view - a racist....however, he's been a fool and said things he shouldn't have.

[Benny The Noon]

From Red Cafe, the skanks forum

3 United fans arrested for spitting on Hboro memorial.

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Police said last night that it was a false rumour and no one was arrested for anything to do with the memorial