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[zarababe]

Alan Hansen has apologised for his comments. Is it just me, or has this country become so sensitive to anything said, we are just a bunch of pussies?

... BUT SHOULD HE KNOW BETTER AFTER 40 ODD YEARS...

there are a bunch of pussies - when it comes to understaning the reason the club is standing by Luis -

Should he know better?

Seeing as he is a pundit yeah he probably should have done his homework, but there is nothing malicious in how he put his comments. We have become so sensitive now its difficult to talk about black people without someone being offended.

Gingers on the other hand....

.. don't misunderstand me K.. I agree with you, but the media is on a witch-hunt against Luis, claiming he should know better re: a word not culturally offensive to him... should we expect him to know better, when someone can come out with what Alan did in all his years here  ... it is comical

[Dalglish]

Alan Hansen has apologised for his comments. Is it just me, or has this country become so sensitive to anything said, we are just a bunch of pussies?

... BUT SHOULD HE KNOW BETTER AFTER 40 ODD YEARS...

there are a bunch of pussies - when it comes to understaning the reason the club is standing by Luis -

Should he know better?

Seeing as he is a pundit yeah he probably should have done his homework, but there is nothing malicious in how he put his comments. We have become so sensitive now its difficult to talk about black people without someone being offended.

Gingers on the other hand....

.. don't misunderstand me K.. I agree with you, but the media is on a witch-hunt against Luis, claiming he should know better re: a word not culturally offensive to him... should we expect him to know better, when someone can come out with what Alan did in all his years here  ... it is comical

Agree Zara,

Lets not miss the obvious comparison here to Suarez's situation.

Hansen was perhaps more culpable than Saurez given that he has lived and worked in the country for 40+ years but an apology is deemed acceptable and proper and the matter is closed.

[Kharhaz]

.. don't misunderstand me K.. I agree with you, but the media is on a witch-hunt against Luis, claiming he should know better re: a word not culturally offensive to him... should we expect him to know better, when someone can come out with what Alan did in all his years here  ... it is comical

Oh I know that. This is why the club and us supporters are standing by Luis. He is being made the scapegoat by the FA, and the whole thing is a farce.

Evra is a whiny little maggot who lets not forget was part of the France set up that made a mockery of their national team during the World Cup. He was more than happy to sit back and turn his nation into a joke. He has cried wolf before and as a person he comes across a spiteful little b*stard.

The media, to me, are on the same level. For gods sake, these people hack victims phones and have no morals at all, so whatever they say, I have no interest in.

What matters to me is the fact that the FA are corrupt, and they are using this Suarez case to score political points. Liverpool are absolutely right to stand by Suarez. And so are we as supporters.

[laza]

Hi laza,

Thats MY POINT mate  !

The FA have opened a can of worms with their determination to make an example of Suarez when the world and his wife knows its  a veiled message to Blatter after his recent comments and the fact that the FA are still extremely P***** off about not getting the World Cup and seem to believe that Blatter is to blame.


I haven't a problem with what Hansen said on MOTD although I'm culturally aware enough to  appreciate for some it might have raised an eyebrow.

Lets imagine the BBC get loads of complaints and Hansen is hauled before his bosees and he says "In Scotland, its perfectly acceptable to use the word coloured, is that an acceptable defence ? Or like Suarez will Hansen be sanctioned because he should have availed himself of the meaning of that word in the country he lives ?

Gday Ian and Merry Christmas to you

Great to see you posting more regularly again

I know exactly what you mean when you start playing politics with these sort of issues you really do not
where it will end up

If John Terry does get a civil  conviction then I think FA veiled message will come back and bite them on the proverbial big time

[Octsky]

now we at a club is being attack by the media for wearing the Suarez t shirt,
we are supporting racism according to them. what kind of BS is that ?

terry's "you black c*nt" is racist comment.
suarez's "calm down, black, calm down"  is not a racist comment,
making an observation does not make him racist.

[Kerry07]

now we at a club is being attack by the media for wearing the Suarez t shirt,
we are supporting racism according to them. what kind of BS is that ?

terry's "you black c*nt" is racist comment.
suarez's "calm down, black, calm down"  is not a racist comment,
making an observation does not make him racist.

As Millie Dowlers family will testify the British media are scum of the earth, no sane person can take offence from these cretins.

The one good thing that has come out of this is that it will make England's future failures that bit sweeter. The country is a pc basket case full of hypocrites and bigotted little englanders. The English arrogance over the campaign to host the 2022 world cup was staggering.. they got 1 vote and are despised by everyone in FIFA for good reason. These same bigoted English runts even had the audacity to paint blatter as a racist.. whatever else is said about him this a man who has done more for the african continent that any previous FIFA leader, in contrast to the English FIFA president Stanley Rous who called for South Africa to be readmitted back into FIFA.... during apartheid. Nice.

Luis has been a victim of the little englander mentality that runs through English society (bar the peoples republic of Liverpool). As Carra rightly said after he missed his pen following world cup elimination.. "its only England". Indeed it is.

[Dundalk]

@anfieldonline: After their headline over Suarez, the Daily Mirror is believed to have been told they are no longer welcome at the club.

[stmichael]

the difference in media coverage towards suarez and that "brave english lion" john terry is laughable. they were basically sucking his c*ck on sky last night. the papers today have praised the bloke for playing through adversity as if he's a national hero or something.

the double standards and xenophobia is beyond a joke.

[lakes10]

Right i am off.

rant ready annd you can card me for this as i know there are rules about to posting about the S*n and you know i stick to them as it was one of my friends face they suck all over the paper under the headilnes that day......but they have so f'ucked me off.

They are almost saying that Kenny is a dictator and black players had no choice in putting the shirt on the other night and LFC are leading football into anarchy in the uk.

sorry but i am going to post a bit from the S*n.

I need to know what our Black fans think of what they have put.



Kenny Dalglish is leading English football into anarchy
SHAUN CUSTIS - Chief football writer

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DO Liverpool want to lead the game into anarchy?

It certainly looks like it by the way they are behaving.

Furious that Luis Suarez has been given an eight-game ban and a £40,000 fine for racially abusing Patrice Evra, manager Kenny Dalglish swung into action to mastermind the backlash.

A statement slammed the FA and Dalglish and his squad wore T-shirts in tribute to Suarez at Wigan on Wednesday night.

Comments by Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas about supporting John Terry whatever the outcome of his court case, in which he is charged with racially abusing Anton Ferdinand, are not clever either.

But imagine the reaction around the country if the Chelsea squad had all run out at White Hart Lane last night wearing Terry T-shirts.

It is irrelevant that Terry's case is going to court, the basic accusation against him is the same.

What an outcry there would be, too, if Alex Ferguson and his Manchester United stars began wearing tops with Evra on the back.

We are told that all the Liverpool players willingly agreed to warm up in the Suarez shirts.

Yet even if any of them had had doubts, they probably would have had little choice but to toe the party line.

Dalglish has publicly announced they are all standing together behind the Uruguayan striker, so there can be no waverers.

And at no point is there any acknowledgement from Anfield that Suarez might have been advised not to utter a term which could have been interpreted as racist.

Liverpool, led by Dalglish, are putting two fingers up to authority and blatantly showing they have no respect for the domestic game's rulers.

The Kop fans, who worship the Scot, follow the messiah and direct their venom at Evra, Manchester United and FA officials.

Some of the abuse targeting FA employees would land the perpetrators in court if the police were brought in.

And it is all stoking up the next meeting between United and Liverpool in February to incendiary levels.

You can bet your life, if it all goes off there, it will be the FA who get the blame.

It is understandable that Dalglish supports his player. But the manner in which he is going about it is neither subtle nor admirable.

Someone at Liverpool needs to put an arm round the Scot's shoulder and advise him to take a step back.

The League Managers Association, which usually has plenty to say for itself, should also have a word with Dalglish — one of their high-profile members — and tell him he needs to rein it in.




the scum of a paper make me sick, not only have they got it in for our player but they have always had it in for Kenny.

it seems the fact that we have stuck together on this has hurt them.

again sorry for posting about this c.unt of a paper.....now going to book myself in for my own anger course before i go down and punch SHAUN CUSTIS.

[lakes10]

Alan Hansen has apologised for his comments. Is it just me, or has this country become so sensitive to anything said, we are just a bunch of pussies?

... BUT SHOULD HE KNOW BETTER AFTER 40 ODD YEARS...

there are a bunch of pussies - when it comes to understaning the reason the club is standing by Luis -

Should he know better?

Seeing as he is a pundit yeah he probably should have done his homework, but there is nothing malicious in how he put his comments. We have become so sensitive now its difficult to talk about black people without someone being offended.

Gingers on the other hand....

well when i teach in London i get told off for saying Black to the older members of the class (over60's) they ont like that when i asked what i should say they said "Ethnic" this made all the ones under 40 kick off, a lot of them are as English as you and me, they said you dont have to call us anything we have our own names. i tried to point out that we was trying to talk about black on black crime and it will be hard not to use the word Black.

[lakes10]

@shauncustis

this is his twiiter account, let him know what you think about what he said......no you dont have to be nice.

[Fowler_E7]

I personally thought the wearing the t shirts was a very bad idea, Suarez has admitted to using inappropriate language, we havn't even got him to make an apology yet for gods sake. Get Suarez to make a public statement and move on, were dragging our good name through the mud here.

[lakes10]

I personally thought the wearing the t shirts was a very bad idea, Suarez has admitted to using inappropriate language, we havn't even got him to make an apology yet for gods sake. Get Suarez to make a public statement and move on, were dragging our good name through the mud here.

so you are saying in your mind he is in the wrong? yet all of uruguay say its not a racist word?


and you agree with the scum paper that Kenny is a director and bad for English football?

[lakes10]

good post this from another forum


Originally Posted by Rosie Thorn

I think it's very difficult to know which word to use to describe a group of non-white people.

I'm in my mid forties and was born and bred in south London (although I've lived in Dorset for the last 5 years), I went to school with, socialised with, worked with and lived with people from all nationalities (and religions). My ex husband was (and presumably still is!) mixed race and he hated being called black as he considered it to be 'a life style' not just an adjective. The black community use the term coconut to describe a black person who has a good education, speaks well, has a decent job and generally 'behaves like a white person'. He didn't want to be part of that. I had a couple of Chinese friends who were quite happy to be called Oriental because they felt that distinguished them from Indian sub-continent Asians but other people find Oriental offensive. Some Asians find Indian sub-continent offensive where as others use it to define the bit of Asia that they come from. Then you've got all the Middle eastern countries - they aren't white but neither are they black or Asian.
When I worked as a Civil Servant we used the terms ethnic minority or non white but some of my ethnic minority colleagues disliked those terms.
In every day life there is no need to use colour to describe someone but there are times when you do need a collective term - like when Alan Hansen said there are now lots of 'coloured' players. He was trying to say that whites no longer rule the Premiership. I'm not condoning what he said but I can see his problem and really don't see why people complained.
I try never to offend people and will always apologise if I inadvertently do but I think that terminolgy in this situation is a minefield. (And don't get me started on young black men 'reclaiming' n*****, young Pakistani men 'reclaiming' P*** or my disabled friend 'reclaiming' cripple - how strange that I'll type cripple in full but am too scared of being banned to type out the other two.)

[Fowler_E7]

I personally thought the wearing the t shirts was a very bad idea, Suarez has admitted to using inappropriate language, we havn't even got him to make an apology yet for gods sake. Get Suarez to make a public statement and move on, were dragging our good name through the mud here.

so you are saying in your mind he is in the wrong? yet all of uruguay say its not a racist word?


and you agree with the scum paper that Kenny is a director and bad for English football?

I think Suarez was in the wrong, i beleive that he didnt intend to offend Evra racially or even insult him, but the fact is he did use offensive language and he has admitted to it, the punishment is harsh but i dont think the club are making things better for ourselves by seemingly condoning Suarezs actions.

The S*n can  go and themselves as far as im concerned as they print right wing bigoted material every single day, so how dear they try and take the moral high ground on this issue.