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[Thommo's perm]

John Terry lives in a world of his own. Immoral and insensitive. Selfish and self serving. He is possibly a socio-path who doesnt comprehend that his actions and comments upset people. Most probably its just that he doesnt give a fu'ck either way

[metalhead]

This was for Fernando Caceres a former Argentinian player who got shot in the head and was still in coma for resisting a robery. My point is that banning a player for 8 games for using a word that they use in Spanish (deemed acceptable) which coincedently close to the english word that isn't acceptable in the English language is ridiculious

[stmichael]

strip messi of all his ballon dor's the racist

[Thommo's perm]

Evra has been found out.
He is a serial racist accuser and an odious little tw@t who loves to play the victim.
He has set the anti-racism cause back years with his false accusations
Fu'ck him, Purple nose and tha FA

[lakes10]

This was for Fernando Caceres a former Argentinian player who got shot in the head and was still in coma for resisting a robery. My point is that banning a player for 8 games for using a word that they use in Spanish (deemed acceptable) which coincedently close to the english word that isn't acceptable in the English language is ridiculious

the pic sum up just how silly this case is...wonder if the fa see it?

[zarababe]

@anfieldonline: After their headline over Suarez, the Daily Mirror is believed to have been told they are no longer welcome at the club.

That's great if it is true - this media scum are reponsible for all this getting out of hand.. thank God Kenny is in charge !

[damjan193]

Man, this is why I hate western media, it's full of sh!t from any point of view. Anyway, HOLD ON TERRY YOU BRAVE ENGLISH LION, WE'RE WITH YOU, YOU FCKING RACIST KUNT!

[Dundalk]

"Go back to Nicaragua!"

[Dundalk]

[Thommo's perm]

"Go back to Nicaragua!"

Ive never liked Evra
Totally loathsome, little, sh'it-stirring ar'sehole
He suits playing for them

[nobybob]

I personally thought the wearing the t shirts was a very bad idea, Suarez has admitted to using inappropriate language, we havn't even got him to make an apology yet for gods sake. Get Suarez to make a public statement and move on, were dragging our good name through the mud here.

Now this is where the difference lies, inappropriate to whom? He used a word that in spanish its ok to say and not intended for any malice, just hi ''mate''. Evra took it the wrong way.

Evra even admited to saying an ''inappropriate'' word for South Americans, but he gets no fine or ban, what do you think?

Im aware that Suarez did not intend to cause offence but the fact is he used language that is not acceptable in the UK, im half black and when im playing for my weekend team if an opponent called me a 'Negrito' or anything of that nature that person would likely be taking a trip to the hospital let alone an FA tribunial. Suarez should by stating that he apologises for causing any offence and that he didnt mean it due to cultural/language diffrences. That would be acceptable to the majority of people.

If that is true about Evra insulting Suarez for being South American then Evra should be punished aswell, where did you hear that by the way?

And what language is that Spanish ? mate you and Graham taylor seem to be missing the whole point here he says to the telegraph

"A lot has been made about different cultures and what is deemed to be racist abuse there But the point is, if it isn't wrong to make reference to somebody's skin colour [in another country] in this way, it should be."


We are not saying that because of the culture that in uruguay racist abuse is deemed more acceptable so Suarez should be excused, but rather that negrito may not be a reference to a persons skin colour at all but a term of endearment like mate" .
How could a man in china possibly understand that i could say to someone "come here me old china " and i am not showing racism or ageism just using a term of endearment. Translate it literally and it looks bad doesnt it.  I find Talors whole assumption that uraguayans are infact somehow  backward and more tollerant of racist abuse in comparison to us here, as racist in itself.

Mate you are of mixed race like Suarez i am not (as far as i know ) so i am sure you know a lot more about racism than me . But i think than real racism is not ambiguous words said in the open  but rather the unspoken the bias - double standards- intolerance, instant judgements exploitation and the hypocrisy thats were the real evil of racism lies.

This country has to our shame a long history and association with slavery and subjugation through out the centuries. So naturally now when we hear the word negro ( or even a word thats sounds similar like negrito ) images of past abuses and evils flash to mind. This is not the case in Uruguay a country which has had black players playing in their leagues for 85 years, a place were  people can say negrito with out intending offence and with no offence being taken and can mean somthing positive like love- dear - sweety. Yet people like taylor choose to impose our history onto them and think this is wrong "how could they" and " NO this word is similar to a word in our language that can only be used in a derogatory way and as a  reference to skin tone. so remove it or any other meanings from your language now". HOW DARE WE ! now this is real racism



p.s excuse my avatar long time no post

[Basil]

The world's going mad and this country is going down the pan, people on here seem to be suggesting that physically assaulting someone and putting them in hospital is ok but calling someone coloured is unacceptable.

[Kerry07]

Im aware that Suarez did not intend to cause offence but...

No thats where it ends. Its not the word that is offensive.. it is the context (quoting George Carlin here).

Every source from South America has stated the term is not offensive there, Gustavo Poyet (someone who has been in England for 15 years and knows the cultural differences between here and SA) called the allegations made against Suarez scandalous. Luis openly came out and stated what he said (hardly someone trying to hide it) when a person who HAS said a racist slur would deny ever saying it.

If Luis has knowingly racially insulted a player.. no argument.. and none of us would be in uproar.


The misrespentation is one thing, but the 'houlier than thou' little englander British media/FA is utterly galling. We have the worst media in the world, and the history of bigotry, racism, xenophobia is rife so for them to castigate a "foreigner" is shameful. They slam FIFA (especially Sepp Blatter.. the same man who has done more for africans that any other official and campaigned to bring the World Cup to the African continent)... when that organisation was at its most racist when it was led by an English president Stanley Rous who called for South Africa to be readmitted back into FIFA during apartheid. These "foreigners" despise the hyprocritical, bigoted little englanders for very good reason, hence got 1 solitary vote in the World Cup host ballot. If everyone in the room hates you.. theres a good chance its because you're an a$$hole.

[Thommo's perm]

Heard a great call on the phone in on Radio Merseyside today. It was from a man who had refereed football games in America.
According to him when he was in charge of Hispanic matches, if he would have sent off people who used the term "negrito" he would have had to send everybody off!

[dundreamin]

So what happens when a "COLOURED person calls a WHITE person a racist word?? Is there a racist word for a WHITE MAN??*