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Postby Eagle » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:09 am

Penguins » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:50 am wrote:
Lallana in Pyjamas » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:16 pm wrote:Left in the dust by who ?


City, Chelski and Manure

Grealish 100 million to City
Haaland probably 150 million to Chelski
Sancho 75 million to Manure

What are we doing? NOTHING


If you're counting Grealish to Man City and Haaland to Chelsea we can count Mbappe to us!
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Postby Eagle » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:52 am

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Postby red till i die!! » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:45 am

We need to shift the deadwood or else we will pay the price next season after an injury or 2. It would be plain stupid to think we wont seeing as very few of our 11 had a proper rest this summer.

The unthinkable would be Mo gone for a few months and we would be right up shyte creek.

Pandemic or not the club still earned half a billion last year and what they allocate to new players is pi$$ poor.
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Postby Lallana in Pyjamas » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:51 pm

red till i die!! » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:45 am wrote:We need to shift the deadwood or else we will pay the price next season after an injury or 2. It would be plain stupid to think we wont seeing as very few of our 11 had a proper rest this summer.

The unthinkable would be Mo gone for a few months and we would be right up shyte creek.

Pandemic or not the club still earned half a billion last year and what they allocate to new players is pi$$ poor.



The club made a loss of just under £50mil - that including the funds to buy players like Kostas , Thiago and Jota

Still need to pay the outgoings regardless of what the income is

The losses will prob be about £120mil in the end.


Do you reckon the should have not paid a few bills to give more funds to transfers ? Or maybe don’t pay the bonuses to players


Just think if the club put the staff on furlough that money saved could have helped buy Sancho ?
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Postby Penguins » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:59 am

Eagle » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:09 am wrote:
Penguins » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:50 am wrote:
Lallana in Pyjamas » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:16 pm wrote:Left in the dust by who ?


City, Chelski and Manure

Grealish 100 million to City
Haaland probably 150 million to Chelski
Sancho 75 million to Manure

What are we doing? NOTHING


If you're counting Grealish to Man City and Haaland to Chelsea we can count Mbappe to us!


Load of rubbish. City and Chelski has had REAL reported offers for those players. There won't be an offer for mappe from us....
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Postby Lallana in Pyjamas » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:08 am

So far they have bought neither of the players
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Postby Penguins » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:11 pm

Sigh...
Which means they will bring in those kinds of players.
And Lfc won't....
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Postby Lallana in Pyjamas » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Penguins » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:11 pm wrote:Sigh...
Which means they will bring in those kinds of players.
And Lfc won't....



Will they ?

Surely all that matters is that the squad is what the manager wants


It’s bad enough when people throw their toys about because we aren’t buying certain players but is even sadder when people are throwing strops because we aren’t being “rumoured” with any players.
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Postby red till i die!! » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:06 pm

What's even sadder is you and your undying attempts to hail them as the best thing ever to happen to this club.

They spend 6% of what the club earns on new players. They have grown the clubs income to the point that it's almost maxed out. They wont pay big wages or sign top players for large fees but yet the club still doesnt earn enough to spend to rival the serial winners. Manure earn about 100 mil more than us but completely destroy us when it comes to transfers and wages and that's on top of the Glazers fleecing them.

Liverpool is their biggest asset. They sold 10% of FSG to that cardinale lad for just over 500mil so that would value the company around 5 billion. We are worth 3 of that. They could easily put their own money into stadium and academy expenses and not fall foul of thei FFP bible they worship. That would allow the club to spend more on recruitment.  They dont have to and the point is that they wont. Why would they when they have managed to get this far without putting anything in.

I would hope that the players got bonuses for winning trophies but I'd bet the execs do as well even if we dont win anything.

Furloughing the wages is what the scabby fooks already tried just like all the other scabby sh1t with with the patents and ESL. They will always go the scabby cheap route for extra money but it wont necessarily mean the club will spend extra on players because they dont believe in it. They always go for cheaper options and trot out some amount of spin which the likes of yourself swallow up.

They are a bunch of scabby fookers riding the brand to bits because they can. They arent great owners at all just expensive ones.

They build a team the manager wants  :laugh:  yeah so much so that we could weather the injury crisis because the manager has no problems using the squad he demands they get him. So much so that he used Tsimikas wisely so that Robbo wouldnt get ran into the ground. Same with the rest of the 11 he plays to bits regardless of whether they are 100% fit or not.

You love telling people that they throw the toys out of the pram because we didnt sign the likes of Mbappe. I'd have more respect for you if you came out and told the truth which is that we will never ever ever sign players of his stature and quality.
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Postby Lallana in Pyjamas » Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:23 am

red till i die!! » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:06 pm wrote:What's even sadder is you and your undying attempts to hail them as the best thing ever to happen to this club.



Don’t recall ever saying they are the best thing ever to happen to this club


But in the last 30 years which owners finally started to redevelop Anfield - how many league titles did we earn in the past 30 years


They spend 6% of what the club earns on new players. They have grown the clubs income to the point that it's almost maxed out. They wont pay big wages or sign top players for large fees but yet the club still doesnt earn enough to spend to rival the serial winners. Manure earn about 100 mil more than us but completely destroy us when it comes to transfers and wages and that's on top of the Glazers fleecing them.



I’m guessing you have been asleep for the past 18 months when the club has lost millions in commercial income due to the pandemic - the club for decades has fallen significantly behind many other clubs in regards commercial income and finally we have owners who are trying to improve and have done significantly - despite that we are going to lose around £120mil due to the pandemic

Man Utd are a club in close to £500mil leveraged debt , have taken out more credit lines to get through the pandemic- they have also not won the league for nearly 9 years now or CL for 13 years - looks like “completely destroying us in wages and transfers” is working out well for them


Liverpool is their biggest asset. They sold 10% of FSG to that cardinale lad for just over 500mil so that would value the company around 5 billion. We are worth 3 of that. They could easily put their own money into stadium and academy expenses and not fall foul of thei FFP bible they worship. That would allow the club to spend more on recruitment.  They dont have to and the point is that they wont. Why would they when they have managed to get this far without putting anything in.




The money to build the new stand hasn’t come out of any money set aside for transfers


The Main stand was an inter company loan with no pay back date

The Anny road stand it seems is money from the deal

The money to build the training centre came from the


What a club is “worth” is only relevant when it’s sold


They stated the club will be self sustaining without the need of someone personal money to buy players - and that’s exactly what is happening , they are sticking to their word

I would hope that the players got bonuses for winning trophies but I'd bet the execs do as well even if we dont win anything.


I would hope you would have read the accounts to see how heavily incentive the players contracts are - we may not be able to pay silly wages but we pay the players when they perform

And non playing staff will get bonuses on targets met - that’s standard practise is it not

Furloughing the wages is what the scabby fooks already tried just like all the other scabby sh1t with with the patents and ESL. They will always go the scabby cheap route for extra money but it wont necessarily mean the club will spend extra on players because they dont believe in it. They always go for cheaper options and trot out some amount of spin which the likes of yourself swallow up.



Who were the “cheap options “

Alisson
VVD
Thiago
Mane
Salah
Firmino
Jota

Is a player immediately dismissed because of his price tag


Should we have bought Werner instead of Jota because he cost more ?


How about Maguire instead of VVD ? Kepa instead of Allison ?

They are a bunch of scabby fookers riding the brand to bits because they can. They arent great owners at all just expensive ones.



Riding the brand to bits ?! Is that not what Man Utd have done which has allowed them to grow commercially over the past 30 years - did you not want Liverpool to do that so that they can catch up

They build a team the manager wants  :laugh:  yeah so much so that we could weather the injury crisis because the manager has no problems using the squad he demands they get him. So much so that he used Tsimikas wisely so that Robbo wouldnt get ran into the ground. Same with the rest of the 11 he plays to bits regardless of whether they are 100% fit or not.


How many clubs do you think could have got through the level of injuries we had


Alisson
TAA
VVD
Gomez
Matip
Fabinho
Henderson
Thiago

Plus many others - despite an unprecedented level of injuries we still managed to rally to get ourselves back into CL

Man City lost one CB the season before and everything fell apart

You love telling people that they throw the toys out of the pram because we didnt sign the likes of Mbappe. I'd have more respect for you if you came out and told the truth which is that we will never ever ever sign players of his stature and quality.


We won’t sign a player like him because we won’t pay him over £1mil a week - hence why players like Messi, Neymar and him won’t come to the Prem - because they won’t earn the same level of money

Highest paid player in the Prem is on £375k a week - Mbappe is currently on £400k after tax - his next contract will see him hit Messi and Ronaldo wages - we aren’t going to pay that and neither will any Prem club

We signed the best CB in the world , the best GK in the world and in Salah have one of the best players in the world - are they not high calibre players the club has bought


Be honest with yourself - you just want the club to be like Chelsea , City and United in the transfer market - you want the club to either spend millions from someone’s personal fortune or get that debt up

I remember through the 80’s when fans didn’t have a clue about transfers - players left and new ones arrived , we sold big stars and then replaced to move on , the club stood on its own feet - just like it is now
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Postby Eagle » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:58 am

red till i die!! » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:06 pm wrote:What's even sadder is you and your undying attempts to hail them as the best thing ever to happen to this club.

They spend 6% of what the club earns on new players. They have grown the clubs income to the point that it's almost maxed out. They wont pay big wages or sign top players for large fees but yet the club still doesnt earn enough to spend to rival the serial winners. Manure earn about 100 mil more than us but completely destroy us when it comes to transfers and wages and that's on top of the Glazers fleecing them.

Liverpool is their biggest asset. They sold 10% of FSG to that cardinale lad for just over 500mil so that would value the company around 5 billion. We are worth 3 of that. They could easily put their own money into stadium and academy expenses and not fall foul of thei FFP bible they worship. That would allow the club to spend more on recruitment.  They dont have to and the point is that they wont. Why would they when they have managed to get this far without putting anything in.

I would hope that the players got bonuses for winning trophies but I'd bet the execs do as well even if we dont win anything.

Furloughing the wages is what the scabby fooks already tried just like all the other scabby sh1t with with the patents and ESL. They will always go the scabby cheap route for extra money but it wont necessarily mean the club will spend extra on players because they dont believe in it. They always go for cheaper options and trot out some amount of spin which the likes of yourself swallow up.

They are a bunch of scabby fookers riding the brand to bits because they can. They arent great owners at all just expensive ones.

They build a team the manager wants  :laugh:  yeah so much so that we could weather the injury crisis because the manager has no problems using the squad he demands they get him. So much so that he used Tsimikas wisely so that Robbo wouldnt get ran into the ground. Same with the rest of the 11 he plays to bits regardless of whether they are 100% fit or not.

You love telling people that they throw the toys out of the pram because we didnt sign the likes of Mbappe. I'd have more respect for you if you came out and told the truth which is that we will never ever ever sign players of his stature and quality.


Lol. You on the sauce again, Barry?
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:50 pm

In the 70's and 80's we spent big money to stay on top, we didn't stay on top on a shoestring budget.
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Postby Lallana in Pyjamas » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:00 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:50 pm wrote:In the 70's and 80's we spent big money to stay on top, we didn't stay on top on a shoestring budget.


We spent money when players left and replaced them


We sold Keegan and replaced him with Kenny

We sold Rush and replaced him for Barnes , Beardsley and Aldo

We certainly didn’t “spend big money” unless players left

In fact pretty much how the club is run now

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/liv ... fc/1978/6/
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Postby Eagle » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:46 pm

Over the last 10 months we have signed one of the best midfielders in the world, a £45 million backup forward, and a £35 million backup central defender. All of that in the middle of a financial crisis. Not as though we're raiding the bargain basket at Aldi.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:21 am

Lallana in Pyjamas » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:00 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:50 pm wrote:In the 70's and 80's we spent big money to stay on top, we didn't stay on top on a shoestring budget.


We spent money when players left and replaced them


We sold Keegan and replaced him with Kenny

We sold Rush and replaced him for Barnes , Beardsley and Aldo

We certainly didn’t “spend big money” unless players left

In fact pretty much how the club is run now

https://www.worldfootball.net/teams/liv ... fc/1978/6/


Who left when we broke the club record fee on Mark Lawrenson or broke the world transfer record for an U21 player in Ian Rush? It's far too simplistic to say we spent money only when players left, we spent a lot of money to stay at the top.
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