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Postby damjan193 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:36 pm

Doeboy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:29 pm wrote:If Suarez leaves and is replaced with Soldado then we need a top class wide creative forward. Suarez creates so many chances for himself, while Soldado is very sharp in and around the box but will need the right service

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Postby LFC1990 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:47 pm

Coutinho creates so many chances possibly more than Suarez but alot more unselfish. Suarez goals to shots ratio is quite poor and needs atleast 10 shots to score a goal on occasions.

If we had a player like Soldado then along with Coutinho and sturridge id predict we would score more goals than with Suarez in the side.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:32 pm

damjan193 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:36 pm wrote:
Doeboy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:29 pm wrote:If Suarez leaves and is replaced with Soldado then we need a top class wide creative forward. Suarez creates so many chances for himself, while Soldado is very sharp in and around the box but will need the right service

Christian Eriksen


Seen various reports that he is still talking with Milan
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Postby LFC1990 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:56 pm

Why is he taking so long. I reckon if we want him he is ours. Like Babel said
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Postby damjan193 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:03 pm

Benny The Noon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:32 pm wrote:
damjan193 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:36 pm wrote:
Doeboy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:29 pm wrote:If Suarez leaves and is replaced with Soldado then we need a top class wide creative forward. Suarez creates so many chances for himself, while Soldado is very sharp in and around the box but will need the right service

Christian Eriksen


Seen various reports that he is still talking with Milan

Milan want Honda so I can't see them getting both. For Eriksen, it's either us or staying at Ajax. That's why I think we're taking our time with this.
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Postby LFC1990 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:06 pm

But we havent even bid for him.
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Postby red till i die!! » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:08 pm

we can talk about erikson all day but the fact remains that we have not made contact with his club or agent so we are obviously not interested in him.
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Postby LFC1990 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:13 pm

^^ My point exactly
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:11 pm

red till i die!! » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:52 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:15 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:40 am wrote:muriel is highly rated but i would prefer instant stability in someone like soldado if suarez leaves.


i`d much rather have muriel myself mate, for a start he`d fit in perfectly with what we`ve already got, he`s a goal scoring wide forward where as soldado is an out and out front man, if we sign soldado that means sturridge is pushed out wide to a position where he isnt half as effective. we are not going to spend £25m on a center forward and not play him so as soon as he arrives sturridge is done as a CF.
as i have said a few times one of the few positives to come out of last season was the link up between sturridge and coutinho, some of the best footy we played not just last season but in years was when suarez was out and coutinho and sturridge played centrally (newcastle, fulham away etc).
i`d build on that coutinho/sturridge axis and a very, very quick wide forward with the ability to go past defenders and to score goals would compliment what we`ve already got, not rip it up.


i dont know too much about muriel tbh, just that he's young and beginning to make a name for himself.
if suarez goes then we are short of a leading man and imo sturride isnt quite ready or experienced enough to lead the line and then there is the physical end of it also. soldado would give us that experience and stability and would be more reliable.
i agree that sturridge and coutinho were fantastic last season and looking good for this one but sturridges injury record worries me. he seems to pick up a lot and has probably being out 3 times since january and might be touch and go for the start also. having him as our most senior striker isnt going to work.
suarez is a massive player for us and replacing his influence with another kid isnt going to propel us at the rate we need to where as soldado should just slot right in and his goalscoring record is right up there.
signing muriel alongside whats already here gives me the impression that CL qualification is a target but not next season.


i`d disagree mate, soldado hasnt really got any pace and i dont think he`d link up that well with coutinho, suarez doesnt link up with coutinho as well as sturridge does because i think coutinho likes to thread balls through for players with pace.
muriel is probably even quicker than sturridge and i think having two flying machines like sturridge and muriel ahead of him would compliment coutinho`s game perfectly.
muriel only played 22 games last season as he was injured but he scored 11 goals (a strike rate of 1 in 2, from the wing!!) and won young player of the year.
i just dont see how soldado and sturridge can play together, and i dont see how soldado and coutinho strike up a natural pairing.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:55 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:11 pm wrote:
i`d disagree mate, soldado hasnt really got any pace and i dont think he`d link up that well with coutinho, suarez doesnt link up with coutinho as well as sturridge does because i think coutinho likes to thread balls through for players with pace.
muriel is probably even quicker than sturridge and i think having two flying machines like sturridge and muriel ahead of him would compliment coutinho`s game perfectly.
muriel only played 22 games last season as he was injured but he scored 11 goals (a strike rate of 1 in 2, from the wing!!) and won young player of the year.
i just dont see how soldado and sturridge can play together, and i dont see how soldado and coutinho strike up a natural pairing.


If Spudz retain Bale and get Soldado they will definitely be serious contenders for the top four ,I think Soldado is definitely a powerhouse striker
and will make us favourites to sneak into the champions league spots.

I do however understand your reservations,as Muriel would be a like for like swap with Suarez and would enable Rodgers to stick to his footballing
philosophies, whereas he would have to tinker with the sides set up if Soldado was included ,but having Soldado up front for the reds would be worth
the shake up ..... Liverpool need a striker who will be a cause for consternation amongst defenders ,and Soldado fits that bill perfectly .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:57 pm

Agree RBG - spot on.

Soldaldo will score goals - he will provide us with quality finishing
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Postby redno7 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:12 pm

State the obvious.

He is a quality player.

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Postby redno7 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:14 pm

State the obvious.

He is a quality player.

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:20 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:55 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:11 pm wrote:
i`d disagree mate, soldado hasnt really got any pace and i dont think he`d link up that well with coutinho, suarez doesnt link up with coutinho as well as sturridge does because i think coutinho likes to thread balls through for players with pace.
muriel is probably even quicker than sturridge and i think having two flying machines like sturridge and muriel ahead of him would compliment coutinho`s game perfectly.
muriel only played 22 games last season as he was injured but he scored 11 goals (a strike rate of 1 in 2, from the wing!!) and won young player of the year.
i just dont see how soldado and sturridge can play together, and i dont see how soldado and coutinho strike up a natural pairing.


If Spudz retain Bale and get Soldado they will definitely be serious contenders for the top four ,I think Soldado is definitely a powerhouse striker
and will make us favourites to sneak into the champions league spots.

I do however understand your reservations,as Muriel would be a like for like swap with Suarez and would enable Rodgers to stick to his footballing
philosophies, whereas he would have to tinker with the sides set up if Soldado was included ,but having Soldado up front for the reds would be worth
the shake up ..... Liverpool need a striker who will be a cause for consternation amongst defenders ,and Soldado fits that bill perfectly .


the way i look at it mate is that unless we are bringing in someone like messi or ronaldo we are going to take a significant backward step when we lose suarez.
if we try to replace him with another forward there`s no way whoever we bring in is going to be as effective. not only that if we bring in an out and out leader of the line he is going to upset the balance we have up top.
i`d rather go in a different direction, we saw when suarez was out that coutinho and sturridge (with the likes of hendo supporting from midfield) were a potent strikeforce, i`d rather build around that by bringing in a goalscoring wideman.
when kevin keegan left we went in a totally different direction, toshack was frozen out and we went with dalglish and johnson, when rush went we went in a totally different direction again, aldo was a target man he wasnt a pace merchant like rush, i`d do the same again.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:32 pm

The problem is what happens when Sturridge is injured ? And he is injured on a regular basis - if Suarez goes we need a striker - we can't go into a season with Sturridge as our only main striker. He blows hot and cold and spends a great deal of time injured.
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