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[Thommo's perm]

That's fine Thommo - you can ignore it

But maybe accepting the reasons why might give the owners the kick they need to really get us improving to ensure that we don't lose players because we aren't in the CL. It's a real problem and if its not sorted then Coutinho will be next and it will be the danger for any of our top players.

As Ive said Ive already been spoken to about taking the pi'ss out of you so Im not getting reeled in to one of your inane, boring arguments.
What I will say is that Suarez signed a new contract last year. He said at the time:
"When you are a kid, everybody wants to play for Liverpool. I am here now and it is a dream for me, and now I am a Liverpool fan."
He knew at the time we might not qualify for the CL at the end of last season, yet he signed. We all know the year he had after that, so therefore he feels that because of the disgraceful way he has been treated his future may not lie with LFC. If he cant see that one of the reasons we didnt qualify for the CL was down to him and the trouble he caused, then maybe he is beyond help and should go.
Until he puts in a transfer request and says he doesnt want to play for us then your point is meaningless and twaddle

[Benny The Noon]

He also got nearly a 100 grand extra a week last summer which helped towards signing a new contract

He is also stated that the press didnt bother him

Do you believe everything Suarez says ? Torres said all the same guff that Suarez has - Torres also signed a new contract then left months later.

Many professional footballers declare themselves happy when they are signing contracts only for them to walk away months later.

Why is Suarez any different ? Signing a new contract means nothing - it just gives the player more money.

This isn't a new occurrence from Suarez as well - he has history

[Kenny Kan]

In my mind he's got a legit excuse to leave, I remember saying (like many other reds did) that I wouldn't blame him if he were to leave (and I stand by that) during these media frenzy's.

It's his excuse, it's viable and I can't see in his mind to believe otherwise, nobody can go second guessing (although some try) his reasons for leaving and it's pointless to do so, especially if, at the end of the day, he were to leave. The conclusion will still be the same.

[Thommo's perm]

In my mind he's got a legit excuse to leave, I remember saying (like many other reds did) that I wouldn't blame him if he were to leave (and I stand by that) during these media frenzy's.

It's his excuse, it's viable and I can't see in his mind to believe otherwise, nobody can go second guessing (although some try) his reasons for leaving and it's pointless to do so, especially if, at the end of the day, he were to leave. The conclusion will still be the same.

Exactly right
I cant think of anybody who has had a worse time off the fa, the press and the public in this country than Luis Suarez
He has had to put up with racist, xenaphobic, offensive and outrageous behaviour from our media and from other teams supporters but it was never stopped or even discouraged. I would have preffered Rodgers to refuse to give interviews to the papers that carried out the character assassinations, but sadly he just kept talking to them. In that instance a little bit of purple noses attitude would have been acceptable

[Benny The Noon]

Why if Suarez feels so threatened by the media does he keep speaking to them about how great it would be to play for another team ?

Why if the media have treated him so badly does he keep feeding them the headlines. Is he using the media to his own advantage to create the doubts in the clubs mind

Suarez is not helping the matter - or any matter in the past - he flames the situation. He gives them the headlines they want , he is fully involved in the whole situation.

Suarez is not some innocent little boy - he has bitten two players , he has used a racist term against another player , he has taken a club to court to get a transfer , he has gone on strike to get a transfer.

Either Suarez doesn't realise what he is doing or he is playing the media to get what he wants - a transfer out of the club.

[LFC2007]

On more than a few occasions his behaviour on the pitch and his comments to the press in his time with us have been in no way in keeping with what we should expect of a Liverpool player. The diving, the Evra incident (he was stupid at best for using that word) and the bite, to mention just the 'biggies' have done himself and the club no favours at all. While I would accept that he's been on the receiving end of some very harsh criticism by the media and singled out for extra-harsh punishment by the FA, it wasn't for no reason -- he gave them the opportunity and they took it, and our players should know better than that.

Anyway, if this truly is what's behind his apparent desire to move on then it begs the question why he's been obliging the media for comment about his future at virtually every opportunity this summer, and why he keeps on courting controversy. He's never struck me as a 'shrinking violet' and people who can't bear press intrusion usually know better than to yield to their ways, yet, according to some, we're supposed to believe that moving to Madrid will be his 'reprieve'. Doesn't really add up.

Whatever his motivations, though, the least he could do is to stick a sock in it for a while. The more he speaks, the louder are the signals that he wants out and that's playing right into the hands of any club interested in signing him. The last thing we need is another last minute jobby that leaves us without a hope in hell of signing an adequate replacement.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I love Luis to bits for his determination and the passion he brings to our game ,but honestly the lads not the sharpest knife in the draw
is he ? Its this chink in his cranium the media are apparently revelling in exposing,every interview the emphasis is firmly on Madrid and
the sense of betrayal he feels by the British press.

They fucking know what they're doing by highlighting a subject that so obviously aggrieves Suarez and then just like a poodle made
to perform tricks they skilfully guide him through the hoops they require to sell their respective stories.

Every interview is splattered across the back pages of tabloids like its the latest revelation....He's being led a dance Luis,and he's quite
willing to take to the floor and perform the fucking robot whilst the worlds media ,notably the British hacks stand back and scoff.

Suarez is in all probability leaving the club ,but before he goes the media will have him lambasting Liverpool and reeling off digs at the
club (he clearly is loathe to disparage ) with the same intensity they reserve for rubbing each other's cocks .

I cant believe that no one from the club has been designated the task of letting Luis know they're making a fucking hand puppet
out of him.

[Thommo's perm]

Why if Suarez feels so threatened by the media does he keep speaking to them about how great it would be to play for another team ?

Why if the media have treated him so badly does he keep feeding them the headlines. Is he using the media to his own advantage to create the doubts in the clubs mind

Suarez is not helping the matter - or any matter in the past - he flames the situation. He gives them the headlines they want , he is fully involved in the whole situation.

Suarez is not some innocent little boy - he has bitten two players , he has used a racist term against another player , he has taken a club to court to get a transfer , he has gone on strike to get a transfer.

Either Suarez doesn't realise what he is doing or he is playing the media to get what he wants - a transfer out of the club.

I will keep this simple so even you can understand
He   is   speaking   to   the   press   in   his   own   country,    not   ours.
OK?

[Benny The Noon]

So are you saying that Suarez doesn't realise that what he says to the media at home ( it appears he also spoke to Marca in Brazil - the Spanish equivalent of a red top ) will be transmitted around the world ?

He is Brazil for the Conf Cup and talking to the worlds media not just his home media. The UK media are also there covering the Conf Cup.

[Benny The Noon]

I love Luis to bits for his determination and the passion he brings to our game ,but honestly the lads not the sharpest knife in the draw
is he ? Its this chink in his cranium the media are apparently revelling in exposing,every interview the emphasis is firmly on Madrid and
the sense of betrayal he feels by the British press.

They fucking know what they're doing by highlighting a subject that so obviously aggrieves Suarez and then just like a poodle made
to perform tricks they skilfully guide him through the hoops they require to sell their respective stories.

Every interview is splattered across the back pages of tabloids like its the latest revelation....He's being led a dance Luis,and he's quite
willing to take to the floor and perform the fucking robot whilst the worlds media ,notably the British hacks stand back and scoff.

Suarez is in all probability leaving the club ,but before he goes the media will have him lambasting Liverpool and reeling off digs at the
club (he clearly is loathe to disparage ) with the same intensity they reserve for rubbing each other's cocks .

I cant believe that no one from the club has been designated the task of letting Luis know they're making a fucking hand puppet
out of him.

I think Suarez knows exactly what he is doing and is using the media to help him get the move he desires

[Thommo's perm]

So are you saying that Suarez doesn't realise that what he says to the media at home ( it appears he also spoke to Marca in Brazil - the Spanish equivalent of a red top ) will be transmitted around the world ?

He is Brazil for the Conf Cup and talking to the worlds media not just his home media. The UK media are also there covering the Conf Cup.

I have tried insulting you, but its useless. "Where theres no sense theres no feeling" as my nana used to say so I will desist in questioning your intelligence.
He is saying what hes saying because he feels comfortable saying it in South America, where he can play football without the british press hounding him and his family. If you cant see a difference in speaking here or over there then I really cant help you can I?

[Benny The Noon]

So you think Suarez doesn't understand that the media is world wide

He spoke to Marca - a Spanish equivalent of a red top - he spoke to the Worlds Press at the Conf Cup which included the British Press.

Suarez is the one speaking to the "Worlds Media" including the British Press.

He knows the words he says get transmitted around the world and the stories then get sold to British Media or they are actually at the press conference he is attending.

Come on he knows exactly how the media works - he isn't daft at all.

He is speaking to them nearly every day, for someone that doesn't want to be hounding he isn't helping the situation.

All the while it deflects from the "true" reason he wants to go

[Thommo's perm]

So you think Suarez doesn't understand that the media is world wide

He spoke to Marca - a Spanish equivalent of a red top - he spoke to the Worlds Press at the Conf Cup which included the British Press.

Suarez is the one speaking to the "Worlds Media" including the British Press.

He knows the words he says get transmitted around the world and the stories then get sold to British Media or they are actually at the press conference he is attending.

Come on he knows exactly how the media works - he isn't daft at all.

He is speaking to them nearly every day, for someone that doesn't want to be hounding he isn't helping the situation.

All the while it deflects from the "true" reason he wants to go

Where did I say that I thought that Suarez didnt understand that the media is world wide?
Are you suggesting that I believe Suarez thinks that what he says will only be read in South America?
Really?

[Benny The Noon]

So then why is he constantly talking to media about Madrid ?

He knows we are all going to read what he is saying , he knows the English press will make headlines of it all - so why does he keep feeding them ?

[Reg]

Dortmund: Lewandowski going nowhere

.... because the more headlines there are like this, the more clubs will hav to work with who 'is' available hence adding to his worth as both a player and wriggling his way free.

Why hasn't LFC simply said:  Liverpool: Suarez going nowhere.    ??