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[devaney]

So you think Suarez doesn't understand that the media is world wide

He spoke to Marca - a Spanish equivalent of a red top - he spoke to the Worlds Press at the Conf Cup which included the British Press.

Suarez is the one speaking to the "Worlds Media" including the British Press.

He knows the words he says get transmitted around the world and the stories then get sold to British Media or they are actually at the press conference he is attending.

Come on he knows exactly how the media works - he isn't daft at all.

He is speaking to them nearly every day, for someone that doesn't want to be hounding he isn't helping the situation.

All the while it deflects from the "true" reason he wants to go

Where did I say that I thought that Suarez didnt understand that the media is world wide?
Are you suggesting that I believe Suarez thinks that what he says will only be read in South America?
Really?

Do what I've done mate and accept that it is pointless debating with an  imoveable object. BTN passionately believes that he is right about everything and that his opinion, however alternative or bizarre, is really the only one that matters.

On the subject of Luis he is a fantastic footballer and made a massive contribution last season. He is undoubtedly a flawed sporting genius and we just simply have to accept that fact. He will always create excitement, brilliance and possible problems wherever he plays. The British press are the lowest of the low but everybody in football or any other profession knows that. Quite simply it is not a good idea to feed the animal that will ultimately eat you. Luis seems to struggle with that concept.

I don't really have an opinion about what he has or hasn't said to the foreign press because it is now all getting silly and none of us really know fully what he has said. If he is sold I will miss his amazing talent but not the relentless garbage that has a habit of following him around regardless of who is to blame.

[damjan193]

Dortmund: Lewandowski going nowhere

.... because the more headlines there are like this, the more clubs will hav to work with who 'is' available hence adding to his worth as both a player and wriggling his way free.

Why hasn't LFC simply said:  Liverpool: Suarez going nowhere.    ??

I think we did? We didn't say "going nowhere" but we said "not for sale" I think it's the same. But the club really has been way too silent about this, unlike Suarez. I think that there's a reason for that though. It's very simple really. There is a buy-out clause and if someone meets it, he's theirs. His price can't be raised or lowered no matter what he says because the price is already in his contract.

[Benny The Noon]

So you think Suarez doesn't understand that the media is world wide

He spoke to Marca - a Spanish equivalent of a red top - he spoke to the Worlds Press at the Conf Cup which included the British Press.

Suarez is the one speaking to the "Worlds Media" including the British Press.

He knows the words he says get transmitted around the world and the stories then get sold to British Media or they are actually at the press conference he is attending.

Come on he knows exactly how the media works - he isn't daft at all.

He is speaking to them nearly every day, for someone that doesn't want to be hounding he isn't helping the situation.

All the while it deflects from the "true" reason he wants to go

Where did I say that I thought that Suarez didnt understand that the media is world wide?
Are you suggesting that I believe Suarez thinks that what he says will only be read in South America?
Really?

Do what I've done mate and accept that it is pointless debating with an  imoveable object. BTN passionately believes that he is right about everything and that his opinion, however alternative or bizarre, is really the only one that matters.

On the subject of Luis he is a fantastic footballer and made a massive contribution last season. He is undoubtedly a flawed sporting genius and we just simply have to accept that fact. He will always create excitement, brilliance and possible problems wherever he plays. The British press are the lowest of the low but everybody in football or any other profession knows that. Quite simply it is not a good idea to feed the animal that will ultimately eat you. Luis seems to struggle with that concept.

I don't really have an opinion about what he has or hasn't said to the foreign press because it is now all getting silly and none of us really know fully what he has said. If he is sold I will miss his amazing talent but not the relentless garbage that has a habit of following him around regardless of who is to blame.

How about you don't mention anything like that at all !! It does nothing but create problems and stoke the fires - you have no need to comment about me like that as all I have done is take part ( well try ) in a debate about Suarez current actions.

That part in your post offers nothing to the debate and is just a dig at me - it is uncalled for and unprovoked and possible you might now see your part in the problem.

What exactly was the point in that part ? You could have just posted the rest without the first part but as it is with you , you can't resist getting a dig in and ensuring you fan the flame. You are the problem.

[Benny The Noon]

Dortmund: Lewandowski going nowhere

.... because the more headlines there are like this, the more clubs will hav to work with who 'is' available hence adding to his worth as both a player and wriggling his way free.

Why hasn't LFC simply said:  Liverpool: Suarez going nowhere.    ??

We have said that he is going nowhere - we have says it once but it's Suarez that keeps talking - does the club have to respond everytime he talks to the media ?

[bunglemark2]

Benny - shut up, you tart

[devaney]

BTN - The reason I made the point that seems to have ruffled your oh so delicate feathers is because you do not debate, you simply repeat your opinion over and over again and it becomes tedious and boring. You are personally responsible for derailing the majority of threads with your non stop negative tedium but unfortunately you cannot see that.You simply blame everybody else and take no responsibility for your own very annoying actions and you have the audacity to criticise Luis on this thread substantially more than any other poster.Talk about pot and kettle...............

[Benny The Noon]

BTN - The reason I made the point that seems to have ruffled your oh so delicate feathers is because you do not debate, you simply repeat your opinion over and over again and it becomes tedious and boring. You are personally responsible for derailing the majority of threads with your non stop negative tedium but unfortunately you cannot see that.You simply blame everybody else and take no responsibility for your own very annoying actions and you have the audacity to criticise Luis on this thread substantially more than any other poster.Talk about pot and kettle...............

Once again you use a thread to have a go at me.

I have not posted one thing about any other poster and stuck to the subject on Suarez and his constant words to the press - plenty other people have posted the same as me but you once again decided to have a dig at me and turn the thread into a slanging match about what I post.
And then have a go at me for derailing the thread !!! Jesus FFS ! It's plain as f*cking day when it started - when you had a dig at me - unprovoked.

You can't resist having a pop - you admitted to it before and you provide the proof everytime you post.

[Benny The Noon]

Benny - shut up, you tart

Neck - your - wind - in - rearrange

[Benny The Noon]

Anyway back to Suarez

Luis Suarez Transfer Rumours: Latest News on the Liverpool Star
By Mark Jones  on June 17, 2013
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The rumours of Luis Suarez's exit began surfacing round about the time that he was given a 10-match ban for biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic in April—it was the Uruguayan's second lengthy ban for a misdemeanour during his time in English football.

The forward has since sought to blame anyone and everyone for his desire to quit life on Merseyside, as shown in this Guardian report in which he suggests that the British media are trying to drive him out of the country.

As seen in the Daily Mail, Suarez has also rounded on British Prime Minister David Cameron during what has seemingly become an extended plea for sympathy and for an understanding of his desire to leave the Reds, with Real Madrid repeatedly linked with a move for him.

Suarez has made clear that he would find it "difficult to say no" to a switch to the Bernabeu should the opportunity for one appear―as seen here on the BBC website―but with Liverpool making it clear that they consider him not for sale, an uneasy stand-off between club and player has ensued.

Real have remained largely quiet so far, but the developments in the Suarez story are sure to go on and on...

He might be stationed in Brazil for the Confederations Cup, but the rumours of a switch to Madrid were always going to follow Suarez to South America.

However―and how much he sticks to his word will surely depend on if there is any progress with his intended move―Suarez has indicated that whilst at the tournament he will only focus on matters concerning Uruguay.

In an interview with Spanish newspaper Marca (h/t Sky Sports) he indicated that he only has one thought on his mind, saying:

"I've come to the Confederations Cup with my mind on Uruguay and not thinking about how it can help me with a transfer. My only goal is to win the trophy."

He was quickly back to attempting some more character redemption, though, indicating to the Spanish media that he isn't as bad a guy as their English counterparts often make him out to be:

"I have done things wrong, but I have recognised my mistakes and apologised. Obviously I would love to be valued more for my performances and not for one-off incidents."

Whilst they may still be putting a brave face on the prospect of last season's 30-goal top scorer leaving the club, Liverpool haven't let that get them down.

Indeed, Reds boss Brendan Rodgers has been one of the busiest managers in the Premier League so far this summer, with the Reds securing a deal for defender Kolo Toure on a free transfer and agreeing a move in principle for the Celta Vigo forward Iago Aspas―a player compared to Suarez in his style of play.

Most tellingly ,though, Liverpool are reportedly looking to secure a couple of big-money deals just as Suarez appears even more set to leave.

According to this Guardian report, the Reds are getting closer to signing Sunderland and Belgium goalkeeper Simon Mignolet and, even more intriguingly, Shakhtar Donetsk's free-scoring midfielder, Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

The Armenian scored 25 goals in the Ukrainian Premier League last season and at £22 million would represent the kind of sizeable investment in the squad that Suarez has been crying out for.

Whether that's come too late remains to be seen.

Even though he'd be due four weeks off following Uruguay's involvement at the Confederations Cup, Suarez would reportedly forego them in order to meet with Rodgers and Reds chief executive Ian Ayre to try and force through his move.

Although this report from the Mirror contains no direct quotes, it indicates that Suarez would be ready to return to Liverpool when the players who aren't involved on international duty come back to the club on July 2―just two days after the Confederations Cup final.

With the report also claiming that Liverpool will become increasingly resigned to losing their star forward should he continue his transfer offensive, the Reds might be happy to see his move sorted out sooner rather than later.

That ban on talking about his transfer didn't last long did it?

In a story reported here in the Daily Mail, Suarez tells El Pais―perhaps tellingly, a Madrid-based newspaper―that he is "disturbed" that Liverpool aren't frequently rubbing shoulders with Europe's elite, albeit with a reiteration of his love for the Reds thrown in:

It disturbs me that Liverpool are not in the Champions League every season.
I’ve suffered at Liverpool, but when I think of what it represents to play for this club, and the love my daughter has - she sings the hymn - the hairs on the back of my neck stand up when I play at Anfield.
It wasn't long before the conversation turned to him playing for one of the biggest teams in Spain, and just what qualities he would bring to them as he added:

“I will give my soul every time I step on the pitch. I have done this with Uruguay, Ajax and Liverpool. I do not hold anything when I finish a game.”

Finally he let his transfer wish hit home once more, saying:

"Every player aspires (to be the best) and if you ask a child of eight years they would say one day they would go to Real Madrid or Barcelona."

Whilst most of the talk remains about a certain player leaving Liverpool, a man coming in wanted his say too.

Iago Aspas―who, as we read earlier, has agreed a deal in principle with the Reds―is on his way to Merseyside and is looking to make a name for himself, but not as a replacement for Suarez.

Indeed, the Spanish forward even wants the Uruguayan, one of several Spanish speakers at Anfield, to help him ease into his new life.

In this report in Metro, Aspas says:

Liverpool are one of the biggest clubs in the world and I am going there to take an important step in my career – not to be a replacement for anyone.

I am excited to be in England, I want to play in the Premier League, and I hope to be able to settle there and learn with help from the Spanish speakers at the club – including Luis Suarez.
Whilst Suarez has seemingly made all of the moves in this transfer saga so far, Liverpool have started to seek to take control of it according to a report.

In this Mirror report, it is indicated that the Reds could look to take young Real Madrid forward Alvaro Morata, who is currently the top goalscorer at the European Under-21 Championships, as part of any deal to take Suarez to the Bernabeu.

The report also quotes the 20-year-old Spaniard claiming that he'll leave Real should they bring in a new forward, saying:

“If another striker is brought in, I will have to think about what’s best for me and consider leaving. If I go, I would prefer a move abroad.”

Liverpool would be sure to face competition for Morata's signature due to his success this summer, but the presence of the 20-year-old in a deal for Suarez could just suit all parties.

[devaney]

BTN - The reason I made the point that seems to have ruffled your oh so delicate feathers is because you do not debate, you simply repeat your opinion over and over again and it becomes tedious and boring. You are personally responsible for derailing the majority of threads with your non stop negative tedium but unfortunately you cannot see that.You simply blame everybody else and take no responsibility for your own very annoying actions and you have the audacity to criticise Luis on this thread substantially more than any other poster.Talk about pot and kettle...............

Once again you use a thread to have a go at me.

I have not posted one thing about any other poster and stuck to the subject on Suarez and his constant words to the press - plenty other people have posted the same as me but you once again decided to have a dig at me and turn the thread into a slanging match about what I post.
And then have a go at me for derailing the thread !!! Jesus FFS ! It's plain as f*cking day when it started - when you had a dig at me - unprovoked.

You can't resist having a pop - you admitted to it before and you provide the proof everytime you post.

Haven't posted on this thread for a while and have left you to bicker with Thommo and KK. Yes bicker BTN that is the extent of your very insignificant contribution to this forum. You are a relentless troll who basically adds nothing to a debate.Bunglemarks suggestion is a good one but you just can't see that you're at fault and so no doubt you will ignore him and carry on moaning and whinging. Fkg attendees - I HATE THEM !!!

[Benny The Noon]

BTN - The reason I made the point that seems to have ruffled your oh so delicate feathers is because you do not debate, you simply repeat your opinion over and over again and it becomes tedious and boring. You are personally responsible for derailing the majority of threads with your non stop negative tedium but unfortunately you cannot see that.You simply blame everybody else and take no responsibility for your own very annoying actions and you have the audacity to criticise Luis on this thread substantially more than any other poster.Talk about pot and kettle...............

Once again you use a thread to have a go at me.

I have not posted one thing about any other poster and stuck to the subject on Suarez and his constant words to the press - plenty other people have posted the same as me but you once again decided to have a dig at me and turn the thread into a slanging match about what I post.
And then have a go at me for derailing the thread !!! Jesus FFS ! It's plain as f*cking day when it started - when you had a dig at me - unprovoked.

You can't resist having a pop - you admitted to it before and you provide the proof everytime you post.

Haven't posted on this thread for a while and have left you to bicker with Thommo and KK. Yes bicker BTN that is the extent of your very insignificant contribution to this forum. You are a relentless troll who basically adds nothing to a debate.Bunglemarks suggestion is a good one but you just can't see that your at fault and so no doubt you will ignore him and carry on moaning and whinging. Fkg attendees - I HATE THEM !!!

So can you highlight which post it was that I posted exactly which is me "bickering" "trolling" etc.

You are the one that started this not me

[devaney]

BTN - Why do you feel the need to regurgitate these press articles when a child of three with below average intelligence could recognise that they are largely made up and full of inaccuracies. Do you simply think they support your pityfully negative outlook?

As for starting this. You are always the victim. You really are a lot like Luis 

[Benny The Noon]

BTN - Why do you feel the need to regurgitate these press articles when a child of three with below average intelligence could recognise that they are largely made up and full of inaccuracies. Do you simply think they support your pity fully negative outlook?

I was trying to get the thread back onto the subject after your derailing in to have an unprovoked go at me.

The post gave a full summary of the events so far.I ask you to refrain from posting about me or too me. Im sure you can manage that

[devaney]

BTN - Why do you feel the need to regurgitate these press articles when a child of three with below average intelligence could recognise that they are largely made up and full of inaccuracies. Do you simply think they support your pity fully negative outlook?

I was trying to get the thread back onto the subject after your derailing in to have an unprovoked go at me.

The post gave a full summary of the events so far.I ask you to refrain from posting about me or too me. Im sure you can manage that

Well try and post something new and interesting or is that asking too much?

[Benny The Noon]

BTN - Why do you feel the need to regurgitate these press articles when a child of three with below average intelligence could recognise that they are largely made up and full of inaccuracies. Do you simply think they support your pity fully negative outlook?

I was trying to get the thread back onto the subject after your derailing in to have an unprovoked go at me.

The post gave a full summary of the events so far.I ask you to refrain from posting about me or too me. Im sure you can manage that

Well try and post something new and interesting or is that asking too much?

I ask you to refrain from posting about me or too me. Im sure you can manage that