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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Suarez is a frustrating player, he seldom passes in the box and he is so wasteful it beggers belief, it really does. I couldn't be a team-mate of his that's for sure, we wouldn't get on, I'd be calling him every name under the sun.

at one point saturday sahin was absolutely doing his nut with suarez.
it was when their keeper fluffed that clearance and it fell to suarez just outside the area, with most of their team way up the pitch we had a great 3 on 2 counter attacking situation. suarez managed to attract both defenders towards himself as he twisted and turned in the box which left sahin standing unmarked in the middle of the goal (waving his arms around like a nutter trying to attract suarez`s attention) and sterling was just beyond him at the far post, the two of them were in acres and acres of space.
luis managed to get a shot off and the keeper made a decent save but any square ball would have meant a tap in for sahin or sterling.
as i say sahin was absolutely apoplectic when reading cleared the ball

[devaney]

Suarez is a frustrating player, he seldom passes in the box and he is so wasteful it beggers belief, it really does. I couldn't be a team-mate of his that's for sure, we wouldn't get on, I'd be calling him every name under the sun.

at one point saturday sahin was absolutely doing his nut with suarez.
it was when their keeper fluffed that clearance and it fell to suarez just outside the area, with most of their team way up the pitch we had a great 3 on 2 counter attacking situation. suarez managed to attract both defenders towards himself as he twisted and turned in the box which left sahin standing unmarked in the middle of the goal (waving his arms around like a nutter trying to attract suarez`s attention) and sterling was just beyond him at the far post, the two of them were in acres and acres of space.
luis managed to get a shot off and the keeper made a decent save but any square ball would have meant a tap in for sahin or sterling.
as i say sahin was absolutely apoplectic when reading cleared the ball

Seem to remember that it was Suarez's brilliant assist that produced the only game of the match against Reading. Yes he can be frustrating but what a player. Let's concentrate on the positives because there are a lot of them. He gets enough stick from everybody else!

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

your preaching to the converted, i think he is a great player but sometimes he does just put his head down and try to take the world on.
as a team we need to improve our decision making in the final 3rd.

[devaney]

your preaching to the converted, i think he is a great player but sometimes he does just put his head down and try to take the world on.
as a team we need to improve our decision making in the final 3rd.

The speed he travels at times makes it tricky to look up to see a player to pass to. Last year the players he passed to missed anyway. Let's hope he can build a good relationship with Sterling.

[The Raven]

To be fair Luis probabaly does think he needs to do it all on his own.

With any luck we can sign someone he can click with and go from there

[heimdall]

To be fair Luis probabaly does think he needs to do it all on his own.

With any luck we can sign someone he can click with and go from there

Its also the kind of thing that Rodgers will hopefully work on. Suarez is not a striker and that is the major problem becuase he is being played as one. As soon as we get an out and out striker and he plays on the right then I think he will become a much better provider.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

your preaching to the converted, i think he is a great player but sometimes he does just put his head down and try to take the world on.
as a team we need to improve our decision making in the final 3rd.

The speed he travels at times makes it tricky to look up to see a player to pass to. Last year the players he passed to missed anyway. Let's hope he can build a good relationship with Sterling.

the speed he travels? luis isnt particularly quick, he`s not one of those players like rush or torres who ran away from defences.
once he gets the ball he has a habit of putting his head down and trying to do everything on his own, it cost us a certain goal on saturday.
in the end it didnt matter because we got the 3 points but on another day it might.
luis is a great player but he`s not above criticism.

[devaney]

To be fair Luis probabaly does think he needs to do it all on his own.

With any luck we can sign someone he can click with and go from there

Its also the kind of thing that Rodgers will hopefully work on. Suarez is not a striker and that is the major problem becuase he is being played as one. As soon as we get an out and out striker and he plays on the right then I think he will become a much better provider.

57 goals in 63 games for Ajax and most of the time without Huntelaar suggests to me that he is a striker. Find it difficult to subscribe to argument that he isn't an out and out striker. Just look at the number of attempts he had for us last season and he was very unlucky not to scored a lot more.

[Boxscarf]

your preaching to the converted, i think he is a great player but sometimes he does just put his head down and try to take the world on.
as a team we need to improve our decision making in the final 3rd.

We also need to get more men into the box when we attack.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

your preaching to the converted, i think he is a great player but sometimes he does just put his head down and try to take the world on.
as a team we need to improve our decision making in the final 3rd.

We also need to get more men into the box when we attack.

thats been a problem for years mate, as i mentioned in another thread in the 60`s and 70`s we had a fullback called chis lawler who scored 61 goals for us and he never took a pen and nor was he a free kick/deadball specialist either.
his forte was arriving late at the far post and getting on the end of slightly overhit crosses, infact his nickname was the `ghost` because he used to `ghost in at the far post`.
what it takes to do that though is a hell of a lot of effort, for every goal lawler scored he probably arrived at the far post 15 other times only to see the ball sail over his head or get blocked before it reached him, for a fullback to get back and do his defensive duties and then get in the box 10+ times a game takes a big effort but thats what lawler did for a decade.
he wasnt alone, practically every liverpool player did the same, when he was a centre half emlyn hughes wouldnt get into the box like lawler or phil neal but he`d be on the edge of the area waiting to get on to any clearances so he could try his luck from long range.
to get men in numbers into the opposition box all game is very hard work but thats what champions do.
over the last 20 years we`ve had too many players who want to stand at the edge of the box watching play unfold instead of gambling and getting themselves into the danger area.
when you flood the opposition box with players it`s amazing how many scrappy goals you score, half hit clearances that ricochet off players shins and knee`s and scuffed shots that rebound off defenders all become genuine scoring opportunities if you have enough players loitering around.

[Boxscarf]

I watched United vs Braga today and everytime United floated a ball into the Braga box, there was anywhere between 4-6 United players in the box. Johnny Evans was in the box and scored United's second.

[heimdall]

To be fair Luis probabaly does think he needs to do it all on his own.

With any luck we can sign someone he can click with and go from there

Its also the kind of thing that Rodgers will hopefully work on. Suarez is not a striker and that is the major problem becuase he is being played as one. As soon as we get an out and out striker and he plays on the right then I think he will become a much better provider.

57 goals in 63 games for Ajax and most of the time without Huntelaar suggests to me that he is a striker. Find it difficult to subscribe to argument that he isn't an out and out striker. Just look at the number of attempts he had for us last season and he was very unlucky not to scored a lot more.

It's not unlucky when you constantly miss opportunities that's a lack of concentration. It is something that Suarez needs to work on, but I still maintain he is not a natural striker in the mold of Fowler or Owen. He is a superb player though.

[devaney]

You said he was not a striker. Maybe he is not a such a natural striker as Fowler but very few our. Surely you don't score 57 in 63 games if you are not a striker. Glad at least that we can agree that he is a fantastic player and lets hope he gets a few tonight!

[Benny The Noon]

Kuyt scored 71 in 101 for Feyenoord.

Suarez is a scorer of good goals and will get you 15 ish goals a season. At Ajax he worked wonders playing off the right both scoring and assists. We need someone a bit more clinical in that spot with Suarez supporting and creating - he won't be our 20plus goal a season striker

[Boxscarf]

Kuyt scored 71 in 101 for Feyenoord.

Suarez is a scorer of good goals and will get you 15 ish goals a season. At Ajax he worked wonders playing off the right both scoring and assists. We need someone a bit more clinical in that spot with Suarez supporting and creating - he won't be our 20plus goal a season striker

He scored 17 goals last season.

He is quite capable of scoring more than 20 goals a season.

You are a negative Nancy, Benny.