Liverpool FC Forum

[Kenny Kan]

John Henry Q&A:

http://tomkinstimes.com/2012/08/exclusi ... -henry-qa/

For some reason that didn't really resonate with me. meh.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

John Henry Q&A:

http://tomkinstimes.com/2012/08/exclusi ... -henry-qa/

For some reason that didn't really resonate with me. meh.

me neither, thats one of the reasons i`m falling out of love with the game, reading that was like reading an internal memo from a financial institution (double digit growth, revenue steams etc etc)
that aint the game i grew up watching.

[parchpea]

I think these guys came in with big ideas but soon as it dawned it isnt that easy and it might
cost a few bob the wallet has been shut tight and aint coming out any day soon either.

Comments like do whatever it takes to return the club to the top of English football have been
replaced by 'strategic approach' and gripes about flaunting fair play rules, which they seem to
have been misguided about from the start.

Hope I am wrong and Fenway can get it going but unless they can attract an investor to share
the load soon I can see them bailing and putting it up or sale down the lines.

Liverpool is big beast to handle from overseas and I would guess its a lot of trouble for little
profit or sporting gain for them.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I think these guys came in with big ideas but soon as it dawned it isnt that easy and it might
cost a few bob the wallet has been shut tight and aint coming out any day soon either.

Comments like do whatever it takes to return the club to the top of English football have been
replaced by 'strategic approach' and gripes about flaunting fair play rules, which they seem to
have been misguided about at this point.

Hope I am wrong and Fenway can get it going but unless they can attract an investor to share
the load soon I can see them bailing and putting it up or sale down the lines as its a lot to manage
from overseas with little hope of significant profits in a league ruled by the super rich.

werent they quoted as saying that if uefa hadnt brought in these financial fair play rules then they wouldnt have got involved in football?
well seeing as those FFP regulations are a bit of a paper tiger maybe fsg are having second thoughts.

[paisleyred]

Do we need £30m plus players on £200,000 a week to win the league?
Maybe Brendan has the strategy to win it with a modest budget compared to Man City and Chelsea.
Only time will tell.
To be honest i prefer the more traditional approach of good hard working players with a sprinkling of flair.
Give me Joe Allen over Santi Cazorla any day of the week.

[aCe']

Give me Joe Allen over Santi Cazorla any day of the week.

 

Santi Cazorla for me is the same level as the likes of Nasri, Mata, Nani..etc and not too from being one of the best attacking players in the league. I'd even go as far as saying that there isnt much between him and Hazard, Silva, Gerrard and the other players widely considered to be the best attacking midfielders in the world. To say that Joe Allen is a better player or one you'd take ahead of Cazorla shows that you either dont know Cazorla, or agree with the sign British regardless route we seem to be going down.

I think the club needs to start signing quality players regardless of their nationality. The likes of Marin, Cazorla, Podolski, Krasic, Kagawa, Rossi, Damiao...etc are the players the club should be going after. All cost/would cost less than the likes of Downing and Henderson and are a different class from the players we sign and are linked with. If signing British players at overinflated prices is the way our owners choose to run this club then I'm afraid it wont get us far. Allen might be a good player and he would definitely be an improvement on the likes of Adam and Henderson. However, when you compare his valuation to that of other top players around the continent, and factor in our reported lack of funds, you have to think that perhaps looking abroad might be a better strategy for the club at this moment of time.

[tubby]

It increasingly looks like FSG had 1 summer of big spending in them, and Kenny ***** most of that away. Hope that isn't the case, but hard to see otherwise at the moment.

And no we don't need players on 200k a week, but at the same time we need to show some ambition and in this day and age showing ambition in the transfer market sometimes means paying  big wages and big transfer fees. If a transfer goes tits up, start again, buy someone new.

[paisleyred]

If Cazorla is all that he wouldnt be going to Arsenal Ace.
Why arent big spending Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Barca or Madrid in for him?
Rodgers obviosly sees Allen as having not only the right ability but the right mentality to fit into his system.

[sniffy98]

Allen is a good little player who I would welcome. He is better than Hendo and Adam. But Cazorla is a fantastic player and a great signing by Le *****. Citeh have Silva/Nasri and Chavski have Mata/Hazard so no point just piling up players when both of those clubs are already looking to offload the likes of Adebayor and trim the squads. Btw funny Fergiescum moaning about PSG spending £35m for a 'boy'...when he spent nearly £30m on the boy Shrek eight years ago! I do agree that the artificial money at the sugardaddied clubs has ruined football.

[sniffy98]

Also think the British mentality thing is way overrated. Suarez came in and was electric straight away but someone like Downing..well the stats don't lie unfortunately. We need to get top quality regardless of their passport otherwise we'd have learnt nothing from the huge amounts we blew last year going for 'British steel'.

[Kenny Kan]

John Henry Q&A:

http://tomkinstimes.com/2012/08/exclusi ... -henry-qa/

For some reason that didn't really resonate with me. meh.

me neither, thats one of the reasons i`m falling out of love with the game, reading that was like reading an internal memo from a financial institution (double digit growth, revenue steams etc etc)
that aint the game i grew up watching.

agreed.

[Kenny Kan]

I think these guys came in with big ideas but soon as it dawned it isnt that easy and it might
cost a few bob the wallet has been shut tight and aint coming out any day soon either.

Comments like do whatever it takes to return the club to the top of English football have been
replaced by 'strategic approach' and gripes about flaunting fair play rules, which they seem to
have been misguided about from the start.

Hope I am wrong and Fenway can get it going but unless they can attract an investor to share
the load soon I can see them bailing and putting it up or sale down the lines.

Liverpool is big beast to handle from overseas and I would guess its a lot of trouble for little
profit or sporting gain for them.

good post, agree entirely that they use words like strategic approach and other business like words too much when talking about a football club. I understand it is a business but it does seem to be snuffing out the goals and achievements of the sport.

[kartiek]

I don't know what all the moaning is about.

You can't just run anything forever if you can't get the money to run it.

Anyway, FSG have already spent

7 - Brendan and team
5 - Kenny and team sack
11 - borini
15 - allen

outlay -
kuyt - 0.8
aquilani - 2 or 3?

So FSG's net spend for this summer is 35 million. You can't argue with that for gods' sake. Need some calming down here.

You spend what you can earn. You don't live outside your means - . That's true for your home, and it's true for liverpool fc.

[Reg]

I think these guys came in with big ideas but soon as it dawned it isnt that easy and it might
cost a few bob the wallet has been shut tight and aint coming out any day soon either.

Comments like do whatever it takes to return the club to the top of English football have been
replaced by 'strategic approach' and gripes about flaunting fair play rules, which they seem to
have been misguided about from the start.

Hope I am wrong and Fenway can get it going but unless they can attract an investor to share
the load soon I can see them bailing and putting it up or sale down the lines.

Liverpool is big beast to handle from overseas and I would guess its a lot of trouble for little
profit or sporting gain for them.

good post, agree entirely that they use words like strategic approach and other business like words too much when talking about a football club. I understand it is a business but it does seem to be snuffing out the goals and achievements of the sport.

Guys, you can't go into denial. Every football club has a business plan and strategy, just because our owners talk about it doesn't make it dirty or make them into money mad ogres, they're trying to include the fans in their decision making process. Citech and Chavski don't talk about money because its not an issue for them, Manure are a well sorted business (except their debt level and we're been there before) with access to funds, LFC need a plan and to live within our means.

Everything the guy talks about makes sense, its just that he talks boardroom language whereas you guys only want to hear about the changing room.

I like these owners' they're focused on getting us back into shape then taking it from there. Greece is bust because they spent money they didn't have, LFC can't fall into the same trap.

[The Good Yank]

Everything the guy talks about makes sense, its just that he talks boardroom language whereas you guys only want to hear about the changing room.

Not to mention that pretty much every question in that interview was geared towards finance.