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[7_Kewell]

Are you people really that lazy to actually check how many we've won?

It's 4, Wolves, Everton, Blackburn and Norwich. Nevertheless, that is still poor.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/match/fixtures

ok, so i'm wrong...but that's still 1 league game victory per MONTH, which  is relegation form and anyone thinking that Kenny will transform this sh!te into a top 4 side is living in a dream. It's clear that the owners are f**ked off, that's why the sacked Comolli.

It's not about wanting us to fail, it's about wanting us to suceed

[D___C]

I think if we lose the final that will be the end of him. The sole reason there aint 99.999999 % fans savaging him on every form of media is because of his name.

The league is beyond shocking.

Its been made clear that any player at Liverpool he agreed to, this wasn't just Comolli's doing.

Tonight we saw two players, Carroll and Henderson, whom Kenny forked out 55 million on. That money was generated by fans. The money that he has squandered is sackable, and ive said that repeatedly. You are judged by results, and it has not been this bad since the late 1950s. The cup runs cannot mask over dreadful league performances. Birmingham won the league cup last year, Portsmouth won the FA Cup two years prior.. cup runs are not the acid test of a teams ability. The league is.

[Thommo's perm]

Even if we lose the cup final KK will not go for a number of reasons:

1. He is a living legend
2. He has had bad luck with injuries and the availability of certain players throughout the season
3. He has had deplorable, demonic, unbelievable bad luck with hitting the woodwork so often
4. There is no real or available long term replacement
5. The yanks would look totally clueless and foolish if they got rid of him after just one full season

There are probably more reasons but those are enough for now. It has been a bad season with only the cup runs giving any joy. There has to be some real soul searching in the summer and KK has to be brutally honest and admit his obvious mistakes. This cannot happen again and I am absolutely certain it wont.

[D___C]

Hes been worse than Hodgson.

Kenny's name has made him bullet proof for some of the "king kenny" worshippers, but the rest of us in the real world call it as it is.

He has been diabolical.

His saving grace has been the lottery that is cup football, and if we lose that he has nothing to save him.

Critics may point to the terrible results, but for me the most damning thing has been the signings. I get angry thinking about the money he has spent.

[7_Kewell]

so it's down to bad luck that we are having our worst league campaign for 60 years?  Get real lad, it wasn't bad luck that signed 100 million of cr@p

[mart]

4. There is no real or available long term replacement

There are plenty of available replacements, but i dont think he will leave this season.

[Greavesie]

Hes been worse than Hodgson.

Kenny's name has made him bullet proof for some of the "king kenny" worshippers, but the rest of us in the real world call it as it is.

He has been diabolical.

His saving grace has been the lottery that is cup football, and if we lose that he has nothing to save him.

Critics may point to the terrible results, but for me the most damning thing has been the signings. I get angry thinking about the money he has spent.

you do realise Comoli has been sacked right?

take a chill pill FFS, clearing up all of the mess will take TIME and PATIENCE. I certainly won't be disappointed with 2 cup wins should it happen

and you'd be a fool to think we haven't improved in footballing terms since Kenny took over from Roy

[7_Kewell]

Hes been worse than Hodgson.

Kenny's name has made him bullet proof for some of the "king kenny" worshippers, but the rest of us in the real world call it as it is.

He has been diabolical.

His saving grace has been the lottery that is cup football, and if we lose that he has nothing to save him.

Critics may point to the terrible results, but for me the most damning thing has been the signings. I get angry thinking about the money he has spent.

you do realise Comoli has been sacked right?

take a chill pill FFS, clearing up all of the mess will take TIME and PATIENCE. I certainly won't be disappointed with 2 cup wins should it happen

and you'd be a fool to think we haven't improved in footballing terms since Kenny took over from Roy

thing is mate, for every step forward, Kenny takes 2 steps back and it's obvious that he's not the man to league us to league glory...or the top 4...or even the top 6 

I really, really, hope we win the FA cup and then Kenny stands down. Otherwise the pressure next season will be huge and i'm not sure he can handle it

[D___C]

Hes been worse than Hodgson.

Kenny's name has made him bullet proof for some of the "king kenny" worshippers, but the rest of us in the real world call it as it is.

He has been diabolical.

His saving grace has been the lottery that is cup football, and if we lose that he has nothing to save him.

Critics may point to the terrible results, but for me the most damning thing has been the signings. I get angry thinking about the money he has spent.

you do realise Comoli has been sacked right?

take a chill pill FFS, clearing up all of the mess will take TIME and PATIENCE. I certainly won't be disappointed with 2 cup wins should it happen

and you'd be a fool to think we haven't improved in footballing terms since Kenny took over from Roy

Comolli was sacked because he was first in line (and the easier one to get rid). Kenny has stated that there are no players at Liverpool whom he hasn't agreed to signing. Thats enough for me.

[Greavesie]

Hes been worse than Hodgson.

Kenny's name has made him bullet proof for some of the "king kenny" worshippers, but the rest of us in the real world call it as it is.

He has been diabolical.

His saving grace has been the lottery that is cup football, and if we lose that he has nothing to save him.

Critics may point to the terrible results, but for me the most damning thing has been the signings. I get angry thinking about the money he has spent.

you do realise Comoli has been sacked right?

take a chill pill FFS, clearing up all of the mess will take TIME and PATIENCE. I certainly won't be disappointed with 2 cup wins should it happen

and you'd be a fool to think we haven't improved in footballing terms since Kenny took over from Roy

Comolli was sacked because he was first in line (and the easier one to get rid). Kenny has stated that there are no players at Liverpool whom he hasn't agreed to signing. Thats enough for me.

Jesus you make it sound so simple. I'd try to expand this whole thing but your head might explode

just note - what someone says to the media isn't always the truth

[Thommo's perm]

The knives are out and people will use anything against KK now
It is one thing being upset and frustrated, even angry with the situation but to be flat out ripping into our manager in this way is not only disrespectful and uncalled for, it is dangerous and damaging to LFC
Yes be annoyed and concerned, but dont be hysterical and so fearful that you would jepordise the future of the club with such language and behaviour as we are currently seeing

[Boxscarf]

If we finish runners up on Saturday then I don't think Kenny has any right to expect to be our manager next season. £100m investment (more than any other manager has had in our history) and we might only have a Carling Cup to show for it, that's not what I'd call a worthy return. Our league form has been shocking this season and Dalglish is to blame for it as much as the players are, because he doesn't seem to have a Plan A or a Plan B or a Plan C. It's almost like we're just plodding along, with our fingers crossed hoping that we'd stumble upon a good run of form and that will be that. I cannot believe this club sacked Rafa Benitez, because if fans thought we were underachieving under his management, then heavens forbid what those same fans must be thinking now. If I was Benitez I'd be feeling quite smug now, because we really had it good under his management and it could have been greater, but it would have never gotten this bad.

[Boxscarf]

The knives are out and people will use anything against KK now
It is one thing being upset and frustrated, even angry with the situation but to be flat out ripping into our manager in this way is not only disrespectful and uncalled for, it is dangerous and damaging to LFC
Yes be annoyed and concerned, but dont be hysterical and so fearful that you would jepordise the future of the club with such language and behaviour as we are currently seeing

Were you saying this when the entire Anfield faithful was jeering Roy Hodgson? When entire Internet forums and phone in shows had irrate Liverpool supporters slating Hodgson to the hilt? Probably not, that's the problem. Hodgson wasn't a legend of the club, so he wasn't immune to criticism, where as it appears Kenny is, but even his good friend John Barnes says that Kenny isn't immune from criticism and the fact remains that Kenny's management record this season hasn't been great has it? Kenny deserves criticism and if he is dismissed in the summer, as saddened as I'll be to see him leave, I'll fully understand FSG's decision to dismiss him.

I mean Christ on a bicycle, this season has been dog excrement. Had Benitez, Houllier or Evans served up this nonsense, then you'd be the first person calling for the managers head, yet it seems Kenny isn't considered worthy of criticism in your eyes. I'll still stand by Kenny, but I am not happy with his management, he needs to really look in the mirror in the summer and get a grip because he seems more out of depth as Liverpool manager this time around than Hodgson did when he arrived.

[Thommo's perm]

If we finish runners up on Saturday then I don't think Kenny has any right to expect to be our manager next season. £100m investment (more than any other manager has had in our history) and we might only have a Carling Cup to show for it, that's not what I'd call a worthy return. Our league form has been shocking this season and Dalglish is to blame for it as much as the players are, because he doesn't seem to have a Plan A or a Plan B or a Plan C. It's almost like we're just plodding along, with our fingers crossed hoping that we'd stumble upon a good run of form and that will be that. I cannot believe this club sacked Rafa Benitez, because if fans thought we were underachieving under his management, then heavens forbid what those same fans must be thinking now. If I was Benitez I'd be feeling quite smug now, because we really had it good under his management and it could have been greater, but it would have never gotten this bad.

Maybe not, but it could be argued that Rafa was the start of this when he lost the plot and the dressing room
The Roy came in and couldnt (or wasnt allowed to) try and turn it around
Cue KK who has jumped in the deep end and seems to be struggling to stay afloat, especially with some people putting their foot on his head

[RedAnt]

If we finish runners up on Saturday then I don't think Kenny has any right to expect to be our manager next season. £100m investment (more than any other manager has had in our history) and we might only have a Carling Cup to show for it, that's not what I'd call a worthy return. Our league form has been shocking this season and Dalglish is to blame for it as much as the players are, because he doesn't seem to have a Plan A or a Plan B or a Plan C. It's almost like we're just plodding along, with our fingers crossed hoping that we'd stumble upon a good run of form and that will be that. I cannot believe this club sacked Rafa Benitez, because if fans thought we were underachieving under his management, then heavens forbid what those same fans must be thinking now. If I was Benitez I'd be feeling quite smug now, because we really had it good under his management and it could have been greater, but it would have never gotten this bad.

Maybe not, but it could be argued that Rafa was the start of this when he lost the plot and the dressing room
The Roy came in and couldnt (or wasnt allowed to) try and turn it around
Cue KK who has jumped in the deep end and seems to be struggling to stay afloat, especially with some people putting their foot on his head

Always agreed with Thommo's view points. But whilst i'm as keen to hold onto our history and culture, I fear perhaps the americans haven't been submerged in all things LFC for long enough to absorb it. I posted elsewhere that part of me wonders if Kenny's stepping down has already been agreed and for motivational reasons and purposes of dignity, he will finish this season with a shot at the FA Cup. Whilst i'm not for the idea, i'd not raise any eyebrows if his replacement is already prepared.