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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I voted no!

  When kenny came in was there a fan in the land who didn't want to see kenny at the helm? no? if your honest with yourself then you would say that you prayed for the day!  between lucas and gerrard being out for long periods of the season, the whole suarez affair! carroll having the potential but never looking like he wants to show it and downing+henderson who were not liverpools first choice signings plus the junk that comolli had rushed through the doors at anfield dalglish has had to deal with a whirlwind of change and take the most outrageous ammount of flack from the "instant voice generation!"  Fact 1! we have a trophy in the cabinet for the first time in nearly 6 years! Fact 2! the fenway sports group have spent around £40-£45m net on signings due to the torres and babbel sales (plus one or two other players) Fact 3! fergie signed the two main players liverpool were seeking in the transfer window even though he had 8 simular players for the two he brought in (which ruiend his CL chances! for any utd fan out there sneider was the player he needed but chose his obsession of keeping liverpool down!) and Fact 4! The man has had to deal with torres leaving, the suarez incident, comolli, players form, injuries to a thin squad and no investment in the winter when he needed it!  give the guy a break! he needs time and our patients! king kenny YNWA!!!!!

btw welcome to the forum mate!

Thanks mate!  still have no idea how to use it but it's a great forum!!!!

believe me mate if i can work it out anyone can, i`m not exactly the `che guevara` of the technilogical revolution, the remote control on my telly has me baffled half the time. 

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Thats the first time on here i've seen someone take something completely out of context. Not even Thommo has done that yet.

Brilliant.

Try reading the full sentence. "I'm quite fortunate that i never experienced Kenny as a player or manager, i carry no emotional baggage in commenting on him."

it`s about giving someone enough time to do the job, things always dont run in a smooth upward curve, look at the likes of bobby robson at ipswich, the results were so bad in his early years he actually tried to resign but the chairman wouldnt accept it, howard kendall got cushions thrown at him inside goodison park and `kendall out` leaflets were handed out at the turnstyles, ferguson had flags telling him to p1$$ off hanging up inside old trafford, even bill shankly needed time, his first game in charge was a 4-0 home loss to cardiff and his next game was a 3-0 loss away at charlton, it took him 2 and a half years to get us out of the second division.
all greats of the game who went through really tough times before they became very successfull.

[Thommo's perm]

Thats the first time on here i've seen someone take something completely out of context. Not even Thommo has done that yet.

Brilliant.

Try reading the full sentence. "I'm quite fortunate that i never experienced Kenny as a player or manager, i carry no emotional baggage in commenting on him."

Hes not questioning that you never saw him, hes questioning that you think youre fortunate that you didnt. You seem to think it gives you an advantage because you never witness KK play.
You are unfortunate and stupid. Great combination

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Thats the first time on here i've seen someone take something completely out of context. Not even Thommo has done that yet.

Brilliant.

Try reading the full sentence. "I'm quite fortunate that i never experienced Kenny as a player or manager, i carry no emotional baggage in commenting on him."

No, I believe I read your post correctly ....It seems you view your ignorance as a virtue .

[red till i die!!]

I'm quite fortunate that i never experienced Kenny as a player or manager, i carry no emotional baggage in commenting on him.




i would say you were quite unfortunate that you never experienced kenny as a player or manager as if you did you would understand why so many defend him.spend a bit of time researching his time here as both player and manager and watch some footage of him and you will see what the man is really like.do the research and you will find that the man is a winner and was exceptional as both a teammate and boss.
he has been out of the game for a long time yes,but in the short time he has been back he still has a trophy in the bag and possibly a final of another so what id say to you in his defence is that he deserves time to fully acclimatise himself with the modern game and with better players we will challenge with him at the helm.most managers wait a career to win a trophy at top level and some never do but kenny managed it in 15 months.
emotional baggage is what you inherit when you feel passionate about something and if you are a real fan then i dont know how you can have one without the other.
were not blind and we are all hurting at the way this season has gone and id say no one more than kenny so he should be given at least another season to see whether he has or hasnt adapted and if you understood anything about liverpool at all you would automatically understand why he deserves that chance.
i dont go for the whole internet generation/footie manager fan bo!!ox as neither of those were around years ago.but what i will say about modern day fans is that they are absolutely clueless and disinterested with the great history of our club and the people within it,and think it only starts the day they decided to have some sort of affiliation.no fan knows/claims or expects to know every single detail of the clubs history but whats important is that they have an interest to learn what is so great about this club,what made it so great and who the men where that made it happen.
believe me when i say that this man is a magnet for trophys and if he gets it right,we will be right back up there at the top and if he doesnt improve then at the end of next season fsg wont renew his contract and we move on with a new appointment,simple as that.btw your deluded if you think someone else is going to come in and win a title in his first year.if he does step down in the summer then so be it and we move on.
in the meantime you should try to be a little less kneejerk,repetitive and always demanding consequences for peoples heads every time something goes t1ts up.
for the good of the forum an all like!!

[D___C]

I shall give Goggles the benefit of the doubt and assume hes being sarcastic (quite generous of me i know).

Its one thing taking one part of a sentence and not factor in the second part... but to repeat the error having been informed of it.. well such a thing would be straight out of numptyville (a place the likes of Thommo knows well)

[garethfeb80]

I'm quite fortunate that i never experienced Kenny as a player or manager, i carry no emotional baggage in commenting on him.




i would say you were quite unfortunate that you never experienced kenny as a player or manager as if you did you would understand why so many defend him.spend a bit of time researching his time here as both player and manager and watch some footage of him and you will see what the man is really like.do the research and you will find that the man is a winner and was exceptional as both a teammate and boss.
he has been out of the game for a long time yes,but in the short time he has been back he still has a trophy in the bag and possibly a final of another so what id say to you in his defence is that he deserves time to fully acclimatise himself with the modern game and with better players we will challenge with him at the helm.most managers wait a career to win a trophy at top level and some never do but kenny managed it in 15 months.
emotional baggage is what you inherit when you feel passionate about something and if you are a real fan then i dont know how you can have one without the other.
were not blind and we are all hurting at the way this season has gone and id say no one more than kenny so he should be given at least another season to see whether he has or hasnt adapted and if you understood anything about liverpool at all you would automatically understand why he deserves that chance.
i dont go for the whole internet generation/footie manager fan bo!!ox as neither of those were around years ago.but what i will say about modern day fans is that they are absolutely clueless and disinterested with the great history of our club and the people within it,and think it only starts the day they decided to have some sort of affiliation.no fan knows/claims or expects to know every single detail of the clubs history but whats important is that they have an interest to learn what is so great about this club,what made it so great and who the men where that made it happen.
believe me when i say that this man is a magnet for trophys and if he gets it right,we will be right back up there at the top and if he doesnt improve then at the end of next season fsg wont renew his contract and we move on with a new appointment,simple as that.btw your deluded if you think someone else is going to come in and win a title in his first year.if he does step down in the summer then so be it and we move on.
in the meantime you should try to be a little less kneejerk,repetitive and always demanding consequences for peoples heads every time something goes t1ts up.
for the good of the forum an all like!!

bravo! people say that benitez and hodgson had a rough time of it and got sacked for less but in truth benitez time had come and hodgson was never what we wanted!  dalglish is a symbol of everything that is great in the liverpool ethos! he has made mistakes and you made a great point about better players and aclimatizing himself to the modern game! 15 months and 1 trophy isn't a bad return! still in the hunt for the FA cup too! liverpool have a history of sticking with managers (hodgson the exception) for atleast 5 years! give kenny the time! fergie took alot of money and 6 years to win the league! in a time when it was not as hard to win the league, liverpool were in transition, arsenal too! chelsea, man city were not free spending as they are now and i seem to remember norwich being top for a long time! leeds were champs and pace setters for a while but there were no dominant teams as there are now!  the stadium is a big issue! £65m more in revenue each year alone is taken at the gate of an OT game!  until it is sorted what are peoples real expectations? dalglish is a legend but he doesn't s**t myricles.....

[Thommo's perm]

I shall give Goggles the benefit of the doubt and assume hes being sarcastic (quite generous of me i know).

Its one thing taking one part of a sentence and not factor in the second part... but to repeat the error having been informed of it.. well such a thing would be straight out of numptyville (a place the likes of Thommo knows well)

"numptyville"
You daft cow

[Kenny Kan]

LIVERPOOL AREN'T FAR OFF BEING A MUCH BETTER TEAM

No excuses, Liverpool deserve to be where they are in the Premier League and the results have been poor. There is light at the end of the tunnel, however, because in many of the matches in which the Reds have dropped points, they could so easily have got a different result. People will argue that you can say exactly the same about any club, but that's simply not true, because the stats show Liverpool have hit the woodwork more often, missed more penalties and wasted an alarmingly high number of clear cut chances (third highest in the league, last time we checked). They are not being played off the park without creating chances. Something is wrong at Anfield, but just as pundits say of misfiring strikers that they should worry when they aren't getting chances, far more than when they miss them, so too Liverpool can take solace in these dark days that they aren't as bad as their sharpest critics suggest.   

That's exactly why Dalglish should get the 'time & patience' he needs. 

Until this blip, the quote above nails my feelings about the direction we're heading in. Okay, we've seen in the last few games that the lads are mentality feeble, bring in a psychologist to 'man them up' and we'll be back on the track heading in the right direction. 

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I shall give Goggles the benefit of the doubt and assume hes being sarcastic (quite generous of me i know).

Its one thing taking one part of a sentence and not factor in the second part... but to repeat the error having been informed of it.. well such a thing would be straight out of numptyville (a place the likes of Thommo knows well)

Do you know the meaning of the word obsequious ?  I would elaborate further ,but conversing with you usually means I bring up a little vomit .

[Kharhaz]

Oh boy, you certainly have a big problem in your head. The numbers are there, the results, the statistics, just go and have a look at the last 20 years of LFC football. You will most certainly find 15 years of embarrasment and 5 years of playing and beating the best in europe and at home. No go figure why this brief 5 year period was during a certain managers reign, with the club dramatically overachieving on all fronts competing with a fraction of what the other top managers had at their disposal. Your sorry falsification of history is embarrasing to say the least.

Really? History, for those who bear witness tells its own truth.

[redtrader74]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch/telegraph-carra-remember-where-we-were

Carra still has sense.

Another sorry lame excuse. 6 months of Sh*t with Roy hardly make Liverpool suck. We still had a solid foundation capable of challanging. However Kenny destroyed that platform with his signings and sales.

What a crock of Sh*t. When Rafa left, he left a boring, predictable, lacklustre team with just one bloody striker. No, sorry, you are wrong. You are trying to big up Rafa into this hard done by great manager, but the simple fact of the matter is this. We lost many great players because of Rafas stubbornness over his preferences. He showed in the last year of his contract he can get the team playing brilliant attacking football, which won him his new 5 year contract under the idiots, but once he signed that, it was back to the same old, same old. And lets not forget he held a good few of the Liverpool players to ransom with regards to contracts. Until he signed a new one, the players could f*ck off.

Dress it up however you like, we would easily have been in a better position if Rafa didnt put himself first. And that is the truth of the matter. Rafa left this club in a mess, a one dimensional, boring mess.

You really need to read 'an epic swindle 44 months with a pair of cowboys' by Brian Reade, afterwards you'll be amazed at the job Rafa did, rather than use tired old clichés without substance.

[Boxscarf]

That Talksport article really lifted my mood and in many ways it's spot on. Kenny has turned our fortunes around once, so why can't he do it again? I think he'll get another season and I hope he does, if at the end of the next season, no real improvement has been made, then I'd say it's time to replace the manager. What I'd like to see Kenny do is bring in an Assistant manager, Phil Thompson would be my ideal candidate.

[SouthCoastShankly]

All those who are embarrassed to be a Liverpool supporter right now

you aren't Liverpool supporters.

[Reg]

All those who are embarrassed to be a Liverpool supporter right now

you aren't Liverpool supporters.

Bit of a girly comment that mate?