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Postby kazza » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:32 pm

Reg » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:58 am wrote:6 days left in the window. Is that really it?   It's like watching paint dry.

Not sure about that Reg, paint drying is a transformation for the better.
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Postby redshade » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:20 pm

Chelsea spending on another level...

Bidding 100m for Fernandez,Benfica.

Almost half billion last two transfer windows.
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Postby damjan193 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:56 pm

I know FFP isn't very strict but this is a blatant breach of rules, how are they allowed to spend so much?
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:58 am

damjan193 wrote:I know FFP isn't very strict but this is a blatant breach of rules, how are they allowed to spend so much?


New sustainability rules came into effect last June replacing FFP. They have been relaxed somewhat  :laugh:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skyspo ... ed-to-know

Probably another reason why FSG want out!!
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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:41 am

Not even one rumour on TD day. All our rivals are strengthening and we're just sitting back.. we are already 10pts off of the top4. I can't see this current team going on a string of wins to catch that gap up.
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Postby redshade » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:10 pm

Add a little bit more salt to the wounds, Konate out with hammy.
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Postby Eagle » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:17 pm

redshade » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:10 pm wrote:Add a little bit more salt to the wounds, Konate out with hammy.


We need to look at everything from time-off in the summer/pre-season programme to how players recover/prepare for games. Something must not be right for us to be getting the volume of injuries we've been having this season.
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Postby woof woof ! » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:34 pm

redshade » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:10 pm wrote:Add a little bit more salt to the wounds, Konate out with hammy.


Jeezuz Christ ! That's all we need right now  :(

Sometimes wonder if outside of match day are the players being driven into the ground which makes them even more susceptible to injury during games.

I'm obviously no physio but I agree with Eagles previous post. deffo something not right about the amount of injuries our players incur.
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Postby redshade » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:46 pm

Something is definitely off with what goes on, the amount of injuries we pick up is not normal.
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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:25 pm

Some of the lads were playing 50+ games last season, with very little time off during the summer with the World Cup being moved to the end of the year.

Klopp is not one for much rotation he usually likes his core 11 with players only being changed due to injuries.
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:03 pm

Surely fans don't think that we are in this situation because Klopp doesn't want to sign new players or refuses to pay big money on others ?  If he is coming out saying there is no more business being done then it's because he is being told that. We work to a model so it's not one person's choice who comes and goes or gets a new deal. Klopp probably has no input at all to the latter two as they are always based on financial reasons.  Finance Scrutiny Group have full control over every penny so Klopp can ask for players but if the money isn't there then he will say we go with what we have.

In the early stages of NESV buying the club they were described by Purslow as being bottom of the barrel. I know the eventual deal was slightly different to the one he made the comments on but a lot of what he said about them is still relevant imo. He said "They may say they have the money if necessary but I do not take this very seriously. Their eyes only lit up at the idea of other opportunity improvements. An American deal guy simply can't avoid using other people's money if they can".

Opportunity improvements meant stuff like patents, ESL etc and now we are looking for someone else's money to invest in the squad.  I hope we get a full sale rather than an investor to prop them up.

I think it's great what they have done with the stadium and training facilities but bottom line is that the club pays for all this not FSG.  Upgrading the stadium was always a part of the sale process so whomever bought the club had to fulfil that. Had FSG not done this along with the scant investment into the club then they would have been protested against years ago.

We need a lot of money spent and they cannot rely on a superstar sale to fund 95% of it so they are going to have to spend something out of their own pocket should they not get that investment. I will say it now that if we think the likes of Hendo, Thiago, Milner and Bobby will somehow have a better season next year then it's delusion on our behalf.

Klopp needs, deserves and has earned much better support than what he has been given to date. If he feels he will spend the rest of his deal lingering in mid table then he is going to leave.
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:58 pm

Chelsea and ManU went out there and found and bought players. It's pretty clear that had the owners provided the funds we could have done the same.
Once again it asks questions why Michael Edwards and then Julian Ward resigned.
Catastrophic, we need a total miracle to make CL qualification.
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:05 pm

Our approach to transfers Reg is highly data driven and I'd say we run analytics on most leagues and probably hundreds of players that we track consistently.  There is options for sure but we won't do anything while we still have players that should have been sold. The amount of money we waste on letting contracts expire is criminal. They would rather that happen than accepting a bid lower than their valuation.  Considering we paid 35 for Ox and 25 for Thiago with a year left on their contracts we easily lost out on over 100mil that could have been used.

Ian Graham is another one gone from that transfer committee so that makes 3 out of 5. I did read something from Ian Doyle a few weeks back where he said we would be filling those positions again. Would love to know myself why so many are choosing to leave of their own accord and why now.

I have been fearing top 4 was gone a few weeks back as we never bucked up after the WC break. Our form is actually worse and we currently look shot. A hundred million miles away from anything like a meaningful 5 game winning streak. We don't even look like we can score at the minute.  The other day klopp said the likes of Diaz and Jota are a few weeks away from joining up with training and they will see how it goes from there. Palace is on the 25th Feb so more than likely we should start to see one or 2 come back for that. If we have all back for early March and please god in form then it leaves 13 games I think. The real testing time is between now and that Palace game and just how much we allow that gap to grow. 

If we take 7 points in that time before the 13 game winning streak we will end up on 75 points and pip Newcastle by 1.  :laugh:
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:26 pm

You're right Red, but what a mess.
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Postby redshade » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:41 am

Good posts mate... Struggling to see us gaining much momentum at the moment. We may get some consistency when other lads are back but it maybe too late then.
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