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by **red till i die!!** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:30 am

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/02/l ... b-emerges/

If there was a bid then we should have taken it as he isn't the difference between winning and losing. Thought he was a bit half hearted the last few games as well by just going through the motions.

by **Eagle** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:24 am

red till i die!! » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:30 am wrote:https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/02/liverpool-rejected-deadline-day-naby-keita-deal-as-likely-next-club-emerges/

If there was a bid then we should have taken it as he isn't the difference between winning and losing. Thought he was a bit half hearted the last few games as well by just going through the motions.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson. We've generally been better when he's been on the field and looked worse when he's come off. It wouldn't make any sense to sell one of the few midfielders who have been serviceable this season on deadline day for the sake of a couple of million. He's leaving on a bosmon in June anyway so we might as well make the most of him for the 2nd half of the season.

by **woof woof !** » Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:36 pm

Eagle » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:24 am wrote:
red till i die!! » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:30 am wrote:https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/02/liverpool-rejected-deadline-day-naby-keita-deal-as-likely-next-club-emerges/

If there was a bid then we should have taken it as he isn't the difference between winning and losing. Thought he was a bit half hearted the last few games as well by just going through the motions.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson. We've generally been better when he's been on the field and looked worse when he's come off. It wouldn't make any sense to sell one of the few midfielders who have been serviceable this season on deadline day for the sake of a couple of million. He's leaving on a bosmon in June anyway so we might as well make the most of him for the 2nd half of the season.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson

Eagle ! are you serious ? Never mind "pulling up trees" Keita hasn't even snapped a twig in the time he's been with us. For me given the hype that surrounded him, he's been one of the most underachieving signings of recent years.

by **kazza** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:56 am

woof woof ! » Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:36 pm wrote:
Eagle » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:24 am wrote:
red till i die!! » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:30 am wrote:https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/02/liverpool-rejected-deadline-day-naby-keita-deal-as-likely-next-club-emerges/

If there was a bid then we should have taken it as he isn't the difference between winning and losing. Thought he was a bit half hearted the last few games as well by just going through the motions.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson. We've generally been better when he's been on the field and looked worse when he's come off. It wouldn't make any sense to sell one of the few midfielders who have been serviceable this season on deadline day for the sake of a couple of million. He's leaving on a bosmon in June anyway so we might as well make the most of him for the 2nd half of the season.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson

I think you are right Woof but as it stands he has more about him than Hendo right now if he can just stay on the pitch. Hendo whether due to injury or something else has hit a brick wall and the last times he played was a liability.

Eagle ! are you serious ? Never mind "pulling up trees" Keita hasn't even snapped a twig in the time he's been with us. For me given the hype that surrounded him, he's been one of the most underachieving signings of recent years.

by **kazza** » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:58 am

woof woof ! » Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:36 pm wrote:
Eagle » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:24 am wrote:
red till i die!! » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:30 am wrote:https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/02/liverpool-rejected-deadline-day-naby-keita-deal-as-likely-next-club-emerges/

If there was a bid then we should have taken it as he isn't the difference between winning and losing. Thought he was a bit half hearted the last few games as well by just going through the motions.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson. We've generally been better when he's been on the field and looked worse when he's come off. It wouldn't make any sense to sell one of the few midfielders who have been serviceable this season on deadline day for the sake of a couple of million. He's leaving on a bosmon in June anyway so we might as well make the most of him for the 2nd half of the season.

Keita hasn't exactly been pulling up trees but he's been a step up on Henderson

Eagle ! are you serious ? Never mind "pulling up trees" Keita hasn't even snapped a twig in the time he's been with us. For me given the hype that surrounded him, he's been one of the most underachieving signings of recent years.

I think you are right Woof but as it stands he has more about him than Hendo right now if he can just stay on the pitch. Hendo whether due to injury or something else has hit a brick wall and the last times he played was a liability.

by **red till i die!!** » Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:57 pm

I'm am certainly not Hendos biggest fan but he still adds more to the side than Keita does. Poor measure though. He doesn't want to be here anyway and quite frankly a disaster signing from the off. Even when he came back from injuries he never looked like he was working hard enough to be the 1st name on the sheet. Just looked like he was always sulking about one thing or another imo.

Should have taken whatever was on the table and a chance to save a few quid on wages. All he is thinking now is about his next move, how big s signing bonus he will get and staying injury free.

by **kazza** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:57 am

red till i die!! » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:57 pm wrote:I'm am certainly not Hendos biggest fan but he still adds more to the side than Keita does. Poor measure though. He doesn't want to be here anyway and quite frankly a disaster signing from the off. Even when he came back from injuries he never looked like he was working hard enough to be the 1st name on the sheet. Just looked like he was always sulking about one thing or another imo.

Should have taken whatever was on the table and a chance to save a few quid on wages. All he is thinking now is about his next move, how big s signing bonus he will get and staying injury free.

To be fair Hendo is always a team player and gives what he can, I just think he hobbled by injuries and will never be top player again. Keita is a good player right in his prime, he just doesn’t have the right attitude. If he wanted to, he could have been better than he was. Struggled settling, struggled with English, struggled with injuries. He never gave it his all and we certainly wasted a lot on him.

by **red till i die!!** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:12 pm

kazza » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:57 am wrote:
red till i die!! » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:57 pm wrote:I'm am certainly not Hendos biggest fan but he still adds more to the side than Keita does. Poor measure though. He doesn't want to be here anyway and quite frankly a disaster signing from the off. Even when he came back from injuries he never looked like he was working hard enough to be the 1st name on the sheet. Just looked like he was always sulking about one thing or another imo.

Should have taken whatever was on the table and a chance to save a few quid on wages. All he is thinking now is about his next move, how big s signing bonus he will get and staying injury free.

To be fair Hendo is always a team player and gives what he can, I just think he hobbled by injuries and will never be top player again. Keita is a good player right in his prime, he just doesn’t have the right attitude. If he wanted to, he could have been better than he was. Struggled settling, struggled with English, struggled with injuries. He never gave it his all and we certainly wasted a lot on him.

He has just been a really disappointing signing since coming in. He was supposed to be a marquee player that we held out waiting for but for reasons like you said it hasn't worked out. It really shouldn't take the club this long to figure stuff like that out tbh and lads like this should have the rug pulled out from under them as soon as possible.

2 years is more than enough time to gauge how a player has settled. 1st year its about the move, new league, settling etc but the 2nd has to be something more than showing a bit of promise. We can afford that with the youth but not lads who should be entering their peak years and expected to form the core of the side.

Given our budgets to bring in players I find it extremely annoying that we allow so many to leave for free. My original point was that he ain't going to be the difference in how this season will turn out so we should have put what rhey offered plus saved wages into the summer kitty.

by **Doeboy** » Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:28 pm

Considering the reputation and hype he came with, lets be honest, overall his time at us has been a disappointment. Shown flashes of what he is capable and has had some very good games but they have been too far and between. Injuries have obviously played a massive part but for me there's a question mark over his mentality and bottle. At 28 years of age, don't see much changing. In terms of his ability, I think he does some things very well, better than a lot of our other midfield options but certain parts of his game, especially without the ball in defensive situations, are not great.

Will leave with us with less than 100 league games played in 5 years which tells its own story.

by **Eagle** » Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:20 pm

There have been some pretty credible links to Matheus Nunes and a move this summer. Seen him play a few times now and I'm just not seeing what makes him anything more than an average Pl player? Not easy in a poor performing Wolves side but he isn't exactly showing he's a cut above his team mates.

by **kazza** » Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:36 pm

I agree, I thought we should have bought him and was disappointed we didn’t as I knew we needed midfielders. We were linked to him and he was asking to play for us but Wolves bought him.

Maybe under a Klopp system he could have done well but as far as I’ve seen he seems pretty average. Looking at his stats he has been a 90% passer in Portugal and that is why I thought we needed him (as that is what Gini gave us) but in the premier league he is at 80% pass completion, which is average. Does that suggest that he hasn’t settled in England or is the PL too quick for him and he is rushing his passes? I did notice that he is getting more tackles per game so it could also be he is asked to play a different role to the one he played in Portugal.

We are being linked to Bellingham, Mount and him, he’s the least favorable. He is 24 so right at the start of a midfielders prime, he is tall and seems quick enough but he is certainly is not carrying Wolves and I’m not sure he starts for a top 4 team so I think we should aim higher. Still, he would probably have helped us had we bought him better than King Arthur has who has been a complete waste, whether loan or not.

by **Eagle** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:08 pm

Good news if true. John Percy is pretty reliable on the Midlands clubs and he is the one who initially reported our interest in Nunes a few months ago. It is his first season in the PL and Wolves have generally struggled, but he has looked bang average at best.

Nunes is still waiting for lift-off in the Premier League since his high-profile arrival and all the indications are that Liverpool are now considering other more expensive targets in his position this summer.

Wolves removed a clause allowing Liverpool to trigger a summer deal for Nunes after completing the deal with Sporting, and it is understood that the Merseyside club are ready to move on.

With Wolves expected to demand well over £50 million for the Portugal international, the total cost of any transfer could be too high for Liverpool, who remain interested in England stars Jude Bellingham and Mason Mount, and Brighton’s Moises Caicedo.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... -spitting/

by **Reg** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:29 pm

So if I understand this right, the reporter is saying the lad hasn't justified the £44m Wolves paid for him but we then we pay £70m hoping that not having produced the goods he'll start doing so at LFC? Sell one Naby and buy another. Great. We need proven performers.

by **Eagle** » Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:16 pm

Reg » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:29 pm wrote:So if I understand this right, the reporter is saying the lad hasn't justified the £44m Wolves paid for him but we then we pay £70m hoping that not having produced the goods he'll start doing so at LFC? Sell one Naby and buy another. Great. We need proven performers.

Somehow you haven't despite the fact it's written in pretty simple English.

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:51 pm

Mounts an okay player but i dont get our seeming obsession with him, knowing us Chelsea are probably offering him behind the scene`s on the cheap.

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