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Postby Reg » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:57 am

The trouble with Nike is, 3 other teams in the EPL and every other league in Europe will be wearting the same kit within 12 months. It's not 'Liverpool's kit', its their standard kit in LFC colour and add on logos. It's ok, we deffo had worse over the years.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:27 am

red till i die!! » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:14 pm wrote:Not a fan of the green or the stripe. Makes it look a bit 3d  :laugh:   Anyone know what the rest of the kits look like?.


Apparently the away kit is a blue/green turquoise type colour mate ???
I think a bit like the home kit I’ll have to reserve judgement until I see what it looks like actually out on the pitch.
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Postby redshade » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:22 pm

Not to keen on the green edges, looks like the green was mistakenly added lol.
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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:34 pm

It reminds me alot of the 1993 home kit by Adidas. I don't think it looks bad, but I was expecting alot better.

The new black puma away kit by City looks brilliant.

I'm just hoping the away kit for us is something special.
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Postby kazza » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:12 am

Thiago Alcantara: Is Bayern Munich playmaker the missing piece in Liverpool's jigsaw?
German football expert Raphael Honigstein joins Pete Graves and Dharmesh Sheth to discuss the latest major developments on the Transfer Talk podcast

Last Updated: 04/08/20 6:15am


Thiago Alcantara could be the missing piece in Liverpool’s jigsaw were the Bayern Munich attacking midfielder to move to Anfield this summer, German football expert Raphael Honigstein told the Transfer Talk podcast.

Jurgen Klopp's side have just won the Premier League in record-breaking time, with the German declaring himself "happy with my squad 100 per cent", although that does not mean the champions will not be strengthening in the transfer window.

Jamie Carragher believes Klopp should use the summer to fine-tune his squad ahead of next season, when there is sure to be a greater title challenge from the likes of Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.



Alcantara's 2019-20 stats in all comps

Pld 36
Total mins played 2646
Goals 3
Assists 2

"Liverpool's squad is fine in most areas," said the former Liverpool defender. "But l think there's a couple of glaring areas where it should be better than it is."

One such area that may need looking at is the addition of a technically accomplished playmaker who is not only capable of producing long-range goals, but can also help control and open up games with intricate passes and incisive runs.


The type of player who can be decisive in the big matches, which are invariably tight contests, and who the Reds have not been able to call upon since Philippe Coutinho's departure to Barcelona in January 2018.

Alcantara, whose father is Brazil World Cup winner Mazinho, certainly fits that bill and would add some flair to the champions' workmanlike midfield were he to join the club.

And Bayern are already bracing themselves for Liverpool to make a move for the 29-year-old, according to Honigstein.

"Bayern had an offer of a contract extension on the table," he told the Transfer Talk podcast. "They thought they'd agreed, but he's changed his mind. The club assumed that he must already have a deal in place with someone else, but that side are yet to reveal their hand.

"There's been no firm offer yet from anyone, but Bayern are bracing themselves for Liverpool because that's the rumour in the dressing room. But we haven't seen any offer yet and Liverpool have distanced themselves from making a move for Thiago. That could just be part of their strategy, but Bayern are more or less resigned to him leaving.

"I think that would be a big blow for them as he's more or less been running games for them and is an absolute key player in my mind. It'll be very difficult for Bayern to find a player who is like Thiago, who's so unique in his technical ability. It's a blow for Bayern and something that they didn't expect."

However, if the Spain international does move to Merseyside next season, then the balance of Liverpool's three-man midfield will be altered, warns Honigstein.

"In Germany they are saying that if Liverpool buy Thiago, they'll win every game next year!" he said.

"He's just been so good. If there's one player they're missing in that midfield it's that technical player. More of a creator and a dribbler, somebody who scores spectacular goals and can find a pass.

"It's not a player that Liverpool have accommodated in recent years and it would change the dynamic of their midfield if you find space for him."


In Germany they are saying that if Liverpool buy Thiago, they'll win every game next year!

Raphael Honigstein speaking on the Transfer Talk podcast
A further attraction to signing Alcantara is with his Bayern contract expiring next year, the player will be available for a knocked-down fee of just £25m this summer.

And in these uncertain financial times, Honigstein thinks that would represent a brilliant bit of business for a midfielder who has contributed 31 goals and 37 assists in 231 games since swapping Barcelona for Bavaria in 2013.

"But in terms of real quality, technique and unique skills any club in the world should be in for him," he added.


German football journalist Raphael Honigstein says Bayern Munich are 'bracing themselves' for an approach from Liverpool for Thiago
"If Liverpool get him in the summer when the traditional powerhouses on the continent can't do it, the deal would be an absolute steal for the kind of money Bayern are talking about - £25m.

"He's only got a year left on his contract, but for a player who's going to be at his peak for another two or three years, that is a bargain in my book. Whoever gets him is getting an absolute diamond."

They have to improve because if you look at the likes of Chelsea at the moment, Man City are going to improve, Man Utd have had a run that has taken them into the Champions League once again.

"So Liverpool know they have to be better next season and if they are not going to do so much in the transfer market, then the Liverpool squad know they will have to raise their levels once again.

"Klopp has said they are not necessarily going to do too much business in the transfer window, although there could be the odd addition. But then there are the other improvements to the players they have already got. We saw with Naby Keita's performance, if you can get those kind of performances out of him consistently, that is an improvement Liverpool could make.

"And Klopp talked to us after the game about Curtis Jones and he could not help let it slip that he is ready now, they are very excited about what he can produce for Liverpool FC. Adam Lallana is leaving a space and Jones can more than fill that and become an influential member of that squad as there is a lot of excitement at what he can achieve in a red shirt. And he is taking on the No 17 shirt next season, which of course in the early years was Steven Gerrard's."

Analysis by Sky Sports' Richard Morgan:

"It appears as though Thiago Alcantara's time in Germany is at an end after Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge told Bild: 'Alcantara wants to leave. It looks like he may want to do something new at the end of his career.'

"What that new adventure will be is still to be decided, but the Spain international will not be short of suitors after seven trophy-laden years at the Allianz Arena and a knocked-down transfer fee with his Bayern contract expiring next year.

"It was Man City boss Pep Guardiola who took the Barcelona youth product with him when swapping Catalonia for Bavaria in 2013, shortly after his hat-trick saw Spain crowned European U21 champions, so do not rule out the pair being reunited at the Etihad next season.

"Meanwhile, Liverpool are also reportedly interested in signing the 29-year-old in order to add some flair to the champions' hard-working midfield."

Summer transfer window - key dates and times

The summer transfer window will run for 10 weeks from July 27 and close at 11pm on October 5.

A domestic-only window for trades between the Premier League and EFL then runs from October 5 and closes on Friday October 16 at 5pm. Follow all the news and analysis on Sky Sports News and across Sky Sports' digital platforms, including with our dedicated Transfer Centre blog.
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Postby Lallana in Pyjamas » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:23 pm

Thiago won’t be a target for the club

Every player they sign they look at the value of the signing


Four key areas

Age , wage , injury record and fee

Thiago is coming up to 30 so last move time

At the moment he earns more than anyone else in the Liverpool squad


He has suffered a lot of injuries - 28 times missing periods of the season over the past 7 years including 3 knee injuries and other surgeries

Fee around £25-30mil


The first three are issues for the club so straight away imo they aren’t going to touch him
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Postby red till i die!! » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:50 am

"In Germany they are saying that if Liverpool buy Thiago, they'll win every game next year!" he said.

"He's just been so good. If there's one player they're missing in that midfield it's that technical player. More of a creator and a dribbler, somebody who scores spectacular goals and can find a pass.




https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... nsfer-talk

That lad has to be getting a few quid off any sale cos he's waffling his hole off  :laugh:
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Postby redshade » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:39 am

Lallana in Pyjamas » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:23 pm wrote:Thiago won’t be a target for the club

Every player they sign they look at the value of the signing


Four key areas

Age , wage , injury record and fee

Thiago is coming up to 30 so last move time

At the moment he earns more than anyone else in the Liverpool squad


He has suffered a lot of injuries - 28 times missing periods of the season over the past 7 years including 3 knee injuries and other surgeries

Fee around £25-30mil


The first three are issues for the club so straight away imo they aren’t going to touch him


Sure I read a stat showing he averaged around 20-25 games for last 5 seasons. As he ages the numbers will decrease also considering how physical EPL is he maybe more in recovery room.
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:48 am

PLUS Liverpool play a high tempo young man's game. It would take him half the season to get fit/fast enough.
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Postby Cool Hand Luke » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:15 am

I think this is the first player the journalists close to the club have claimed we have an interest in. Can't recall watching Lewis play but we do need LB cover and on paper he fits the bill.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 54296.html

Liverpool consider Norwich City left-back Jamal Lewis to provide competition for Andrew Robertson

Jurgen Klopp believes the player has great room for development and can thrive working with two of the current best full-backs in the game

Liverpool are considering Norwich City’s Jamal Lewis to provide competition for Andy Robertson at left-back.

The Premier League champions are willing to pay around £10m to bolster that area of the squad, but are not the only club to show interest in Lewis following the relegation of Daniel Farke’s side.

The Merseysiders are, however, understood to be most advanced in negotiations at present.

The 22-year-old is represented by PLG, who also manage Robertson and fellow Anfield fullback Trent Alexander-Arnold, giving Liverpool an advantage in negotiations.

Strong in the dribble and with an impressive passing range, the Northern Ireland international can also operate on the left of midfield.

Jurgen Klopp believes the player has great room for development and can thrive working with two of the current best full-backs in the game.

Lewis is seen as having an elite attitude already and would relish contesting the role with Robertson.

An added benefit is the defender’s homegrown status, which makes him more valuable in the context of the Brexit changes that will be enforced.

Lewis won’t be short of offers though and may plump for greater game time elsewhere if it still serves his long-term advancement.

He flew home from Mykonos over the weekend to be in prime condition for a transfer – whether that is to Anfield or another top-flight club.

Liverpool are understood to have a shortlist of four candidates for the position, which also features Olympiakos’ Kostas Tsimikas.
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Postby damjan193 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:05 pm

Cool Hand Luke » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:15 am wrote:I think this is the first player the journalists close to the club have claimed we have an interest in. Can't recall watching Lewis play but we do need LB cover and on paper he fits the bill.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 54296.html

Liverpool consider Norwich City left-back Jamal Lewis to provide competition for Andrew Robertson

Jurgen Klopp believes the player has great room for development and can thrive working with two of the current best full-backs in the game

Liverpool are considering Norwich City’s Jamal Lewis to provide competition for Andy Robertson at left-back.

The Premier League champions are willing to pay around £10m to bolster that area of the squad, but are not the only club to show interest in Lewis following the relegation of Daniel Farke’s side.

The Merseysiders are, however, understood to be most advanced in negotiations at present.

The 22-year-old is represented by PLG, who also manage Robertson and fellow Anfield fullback Trent Alexander-Arnold, giving Liverpool an advantage in negotiations.

Strong in the dribble and with an impressive passing range, the Northern Ireland international can also operate on the left of midfield.

Jurgen Klopp believes the player has great room for development and can thrive working with two of the current best full-backs in the game.

Lewis is seen as having an elite attitude already and would relish contesting the role with Robertson.

An added benefit is the defender’s homegrown status, which makes him more valuable in the context of the Brexit changes that will be enforced.

Lewis won’t be short of offers though and may plump for greater game time elsewhere if it still serves his long-term advancement.

He flew home from Mykonos over the weekend to be in prime condition for a transfer – whether that is to Anfield or another top-flight club.

Liverpool are understood to have a shortlist of four candidates for the position, which also features Olympiakos’ Kostas Tsimikas.

Unfortunately, this is the sort of signings we should expect to arrive in this transfer window.

Apparently we've already sent a £10m bid.
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Postby Cool Hand Luke » Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:19 pm

damjan193 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:05 pm wrote:
Cool Hand Luke » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:15 am wrote:I think this is the first player the journalists close to the club have claimed we have an interest in. Can't recall watching Lewis play but we do need LB cover and on paper he fits the bill.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 54296.html

Liverpool consider Norwich City left-back Jamal Lewis to provide competition for Andrew Robertson

Jurgen Klopp believes the player has great room for development and can thrive working with two of the current best full-backs in the game

Liverpool are considering Norwich City’s Jamal Lewis to provide competition for Andy Robertson at left-back.

The Premier League champions are willing to pay around £10m to bolster that area of the squad, but are not the only club to show interest in Lewis following the relegation of Daniel Farke’s side.

The Merseysiders are, however, understood to be most advanced in negotiations at present.

The 22-year-old is represented by PLG, who also manage Robertson and fellow Anfield fullback Trent Alexander-Arnold, giving Liverpool an advantage in negotiations.

Strong in the dribble and with an impressive passing range, the Northern Ireland international can also operate on the left of midfield.

Jurgen Klopp believes the player has great room for development and can thrive working with two of the current best full-backs in the game.

Lewis is seen as having an elite attitude already and would relish contesting the role with Robertson.

An added benefit is the defender’s homegrown status, which makes him more valuable in the context of the Brexit changes that will be enforced.

Lewis won’t be short of offers though and may plump for greater game time elsewhere if it still serves his long-term advancement.

He flew home from Mykonos over the weekend to be in prime condition for a transfer – whether that is to Anfield or another top-flight club.

Liverpool are understood to have a shortlist of four candidates for the position, which also features Olympiakos’ Kostas Tsimikas.

Unfortunately, this is the sort of signings we should expect to arrive in this transfer window.

Apparently we've already sent a £10m bid.


It's unfortunate that we're trying to fill a gap we have in the squad at backup LB? OK mate.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:02 pm

I know what dj is saying, I was reading something the other day that said the only players we’ve bought in the last 18 months to 2 years are Van Der Berg and Minamino, yes we are the champions but it won’t take long for our rivals to catch us back up if they are buying the likes of Pulisic, Werner, Havertz, Sancho etc whilst we are continually shopping for bargains.
Yes of course there is a place for the Andy Robinson type signings and FWIW I actually like the look of this lad from Norwich, I like footballers who look elegant when they are in possession/running with the ball and this Lewis lad looks like he was born with a football at his feet, but let’s not forget either that until Jurgen broke the world record on a centre half and keeper his defensive record was no better than Brendan’s.
Yes bring in this lad Lewis and others like him but let’s not lose sight of the fact that Virgil and Alisson transformed us, there is no substitute for genuine class and unfortunately class usually comes at a premium.
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Postby damjan193 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:51 pm

Cool Hand Luke, that's just starting an argument for argument's sake mate, you know that that wasn't what I meant. I have no problem with signing players like Lewis, but it appears that we've limited ourselves to going for bargain signings only, while we're letting our rivals get all the top quality players. I trust in the club and the owners, but like yakka said we broke transfer records to get to where we are right now and if we continue letting our rivals get all the top players, it won't be long until they reach us.

Anyway, Norwich have instantly turned down our £10m bid for Lewis apparently, as they value him significantly higher than that.
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Postby Reg » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:20 am

They value him at 20.  LFC have offered 10 plus a generous sell on entitlement - shows they're not convinced he's the real thing which at 22 and at Champions League and EPL winners top standard there's a good chance he won't be despite the fact he's TAA's doppelganger! But no problem, let's get him in and give him 12 months to adapt. It's just semantics to me. He's a 15 million standard player, we shouldn't be reading anything into it.
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