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Igor Zidane wrote:I never said any different from that . Outside the ground and in the alehouse or where ever is totally different when your inside . It's like i said the other day .90% of people on this forum (apart from a few who don't know any better) would be exactly the same inside the ground and suppport the team and manager .It's the Liverpool way .

What's not the Liverpool way imo is not to let the media and fans on forums or phone- ins influence wether the manager stay's or goes .

phil_cool wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:I never said any different from that . Outside the ground and in the alehouse or where ever is totally different when your inside . It's like i said the other day .90% of people on this forum (apart from a few who don't know any better) would be exactly the same inside the ground and suppport the team and manager .It's the Liverpool way .

What's not the Liverpool way imo is not to let the media and fans on forums or phone- ins influence wether the manager stay's or goes .

But if its the Liverpool Way to support the team and the manager inside the ground, how will they be able to voice their displeasure if the manager is failing to perform. In the old days they would stay away and miss a match or two, today that wouldn't be noticed because the trippers would snatch up any spare seats and the rest are season ticket holders anyway.

Its total b.*ll*c*ks to say the media and forum fans will decide, its results that decide whether a manager stays or goes, not someone beating their chest on a BBC website. Its like with the owners, what affect has people moaning on forums had on them?

As for Rafa I am sick and tired of his antics every season, the bloke has cried wolf once to often as far as I am concerned.

Igor Zidane wrote:

phil_cool wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:I never said any different from that . Outside the ground and in the alehouse or where ever is totally different when your inside . It's like i said the other day .90% of people on this forum (apart from a few who don't know any better) would be exactly the same inside the ground and suppport the team and manager .It's the Liverpool way .

What's not the Liverpool way imo is not to let the media and fans on forums or phone- ins influence wether the manager stay's or goes .

But if its the Liverpool Way to support the team and the manager inside the ground, how will they be able to voice their displeasure if the manager is failing to perform. In the old days they would stay away and miss a match or two, today that wouldn't be noticed because the trippers would snatch up any spare seats and the rest are season ticket holders anyway.

Its total b.*ll*c*ks to say the media and forum fans will decide, its results that decide whether a manager stays or goes, not someone beating their chest on a BBC website. Its like with the owners, what affect has people moaning on forums had on them?

As for Rafa I am sick and tired of his antics every season, the bloke has cried wolf once to often as far as I am concerned.

You not notice the empty seats at the home games lately . The spurs game was on general sale on the day of the game , it wasn't sold out . You'll find the day trippers have started already not to come and there will be more empty seats . Apart from the big games like the derby and the likes. It's already happening mate.

Igor Zidane wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:Your getting mixed up Bam with Fan and supporter mate. It's the fans who are hounding him out not the supporters . The supporters are still in the majority in the ground (it's getting less and less i admit) . But it's the proffesional phone in merchants and the internet users that are feeding the media who in turn are feeding it right back again to the fans .

Look we have all questioned the manager and the questions are increasing by the week , but the difference is .When you get inside the ground as you well know ,as soon as we kick off we support . Now once the moans and groans inside the ground start getting louder and the seats start to become empty and people stop singing rafa's name then that's the time to get rid . It's the supporters (the paying public) the hardcore if you like ,that  will let Rafa know when he needs to go .NOT THE MEDIA and not the fans who on phone ins or internet forums.

Wasn't being smug in the slightest last week by the way , i was very proud of our support .That's all .

Igor mate i actually dont agree with you at all on this.

The fans at the game should be still getting behind the team and backing the manager because at this moment in time we are stuck with him.
That doesnt mean alot of them dont think a change would be for the best, just that once at the ground they are supporting as thats for the best.

My mates go all over the place and think its time for a change but dont voice it at matches.

I never said any different from that . Outside the ground and in the alehouse or where ever is totally different when your inside . It's like i said the other day .90% of people on this forum (apart from a few who don't know any better) would be exactly the same inside the ground and suppport the team and manager .It's the Liverpool way .

What's not the Liverpool way imo is not to let the media and fans on forums or phone- ins influence wether the manager stay's or goes .

dawson99 wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:

phil_cool wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:I never said any different from that . Outside the ground and in the alehouse or where ever is totally different when your inside . It's like i said the other day .90% of people on this forum (apart from a few who don't know any better) would be exactly the same inside the ground and suppport the team and manager .It's the Liverpool way .

What's not the Liverpool way imo is not to let the media and fans on forums or phone- ins influence wether the manager stay's or goes .

But if its the Liverpool Way to support the team and the manager inside the ground, how will they be able to voice their displeasure if the manager is failing to perform. In the old days they would stay away and miss a match or two, today that wouldn't be noticed because the trippers would snatch up any spare seats and the rest are season ticket holders anyway.

Its total b.*ll*c*ks to say the media and forum fans will decide, its results that decide whether a manager stays or goes, not someone beating their chest on a BBC website. Its like with the owners, what affect has people moaning on forums had on them?

As for Rafa I am sick and tired of his antics every season, the bloke has cried wolf once to often as far as I am concerned.

You not notice the empty seats at the home games lately . The spurs game was on general sale on the day of the game , it wasn't sold out . You'll find the day trippers have started already not to come and there will be more empty seats . Apart from the big games like the derby and the likes. It's already happening mate.

dude can you stop blaming the fans for Rafas inability to manage
You have blamed everyone except the manager... its time to wake up, stop moaning about everything else and just see that Rafa has got to go...

I'm sure there are some 'real supporters' who feel the same way.

dawson99 wrote:I'm saying it.
I know most are saying we are going backwards with him in crage
He is not playing the right formations, the team aint working, and its his job to make things work.

he has to go!

yet you will blame all except Rafa. He's taken us as far as he can mate. Lets move on, try to regain something

Just like you think he has to go . I'm convinced he should stay , i will not accept that the man who has brought me some of the best nights of my life has turned into a bad manager in 6 months .. I'm not having it mate , it just doesn't happen like that . There is a sh!t load going on behind the scenes that is contributing to the mess we are in ,yes including rafa . I don't think it's fair that he should fall on his sword and take all the blame , Look if he Died tomorrow (god forbid ) we'd have no choice but to get a new man in . I honstly can't see what top manager ,who's good enough for liverpool is going to come to this club . Why would anyone in there right mind want to come to this mess. They'll have no money to spend , they'll have a team on it's @rse ( cos if you read all the player threads mate there all anyway ) . So it will have to wait until the summer imo and then reaccess.Unless Rafa does walk now and well i don't know i honestly don't know who will be our next manager . If i'm being honest ,i reckon Kenny would do it until the end of the season and then maybe we are looking at someone like Roy Hodgson.


On i side note i dearly hope Reg is right and we are going through some sort of due dilligance .

Dinger wrote:Rafa proud of Juve link

But still saying that he wants to stay

"I will say I want to fight here, I want to do my job, I want to win and I want to do things here."

I know a lot of you want Rafa gone for whatever reason but I'm still behind him, I have faith that he can turn it around for us.

Well said Rafa.  Juve can right off the match fixing . They should still be playing in Serie B.

As for the rest of you lot that want him out maybe you need to take a step back and read the words of YNWA and then think about how silly you all look. We have one of the best managers in world football and people want him out. If there was no problem with the ownership and the money he has been given then id say fair enough. And before you get your knickers in a twist yes I know how much has been spent over the years but when looking at how the market has changed and the level of overhaul we needed it's not enough, we need more and we are not getting that.

Igor Zidane wrote:

dawson99 wrote:I'm saying it.
I know most are saying we are going backwards with him in crage
He is not playing the right formations, the team aint working, and its his job to make things work.

he has to go!

yet you will blame all except Rafa. He's taken us as far as he can mate. Lets move on, try to regain something

Just like you think he has to go . I'm convinced he should stay , i will not accept that the man who has brought me some of the best nights of my life has turned into a bad manager in 6 months .. I'm not having it mate , it just doesn't happen like that . There is a sh!t load going on behind the scenes that is contributing to the mess we are in ,yes including rafa . I don't think it's fair that he should fall on his sword and take all the blame , Look if he Died tomorrow (god forbid ) we'd have no choice but to get a new man in . I honstly can't see what top manager ,who's good enough for liverpool is going to come to this club . Why would anyone in there right mind want to come to this mess. They'll have no money to spend , they'll have a team on it's @rse ( cos if you read all the player threads mate there all anyway ) . So it will have to wait until the summer imo and then reaccess.Unless Rafa does walk now and well i don't know i honestly don't know who will be our next manager . If i'm being honest ,i reckon Kenny would do it until the end of the season and then maybe we are looking at someone like Roy Hodgson.


On i side note i dearly hope Reg is right and we are going through some sort of due dilligance .