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by **tubby** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:17 am

Not really. He has a point about involving the kids more in the 1st team. Id like to see Nemeth perhaps involved but with N'Gog already nipping away at the subs bench im not sure where he would fit in. FA Cup maybe.....

Darby is probably the next one we will see break through.

by **Rush Job** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:31 am

Good game, good game.

by **Owzat** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:17 am

A thought for all - when we play Chelsea (home) and then Arsenal and the mancs later, do we have enough confidence in Insua to play him or go with Aurelio? (assuming the latter is fit)

When the Champions League resumes, can we register him then or is it only the start of the season you register players for it? I would think with the January transfer window that there would be registration before the resumption, otherwise players bought wouldn't be eligible and you might sell some players who were

by **DanAn** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:06 pm

Owzat wrote:A thought for all - when we play Chelsea (home) and then Arsenal and the mancs later, do we have enough confidence in Insua to play him or go with Aurelio? (assuming the latter is fit)

When the Champions League resumes, can we register him then or is it only the start of the season you register players for it? I would think with the January transfer window that there would be registration before the resumption, otherwise players bought wouldn't be eligible and you might sell some players who were

I think you can make three changes to CL registrated players in Feb and those three can't have previously been registered for another club. Maximum 25 players, minimum 8 home grown & 4 club trained.

Eg1: Alonso goes to Real Madrid. He would be eligble for home grown as he is Spansh trained however is ineligble for European competition as he was previously registed for Liverpool.

Eg2: Heskey goes to Liverpool. He may be registered as a home grown player (he's English trained) he has not previously been registered for European competition.

Eg3: Owen goes to liverpool. He may be registered as a home grown player and clubed trained (Was at the club for 3 years between 16 & 21).

by **Octsky** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:25 am

leto crossing aint bad but the main concern is the defending...well he is a defender first, wing-back second. so far he hasnt meet someone that is good (eg swp, ronaldo), so the jury is still out on tat one. and btw he shot well too, i noticed.
now that we have wingers and wing-backs we dont have crouch. tat a pity.

by **Octsky** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:38 am

Octsky wrote:leto crossing aint bad but the main concern is the defending...well he is a defender first, wing-back second. so far he hasnt meet someone that is good (eg swp, ronaldo), so the jury is still out on tat one. and btw he shot well too, i noticed.
now that we have wingers and wing-backs we dont have crouch. tat a pity.

sorry insua i meant

by **GYBS** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:22 am

lets not get too carried away just yet with insua . Still got a long way to go yet. He seems to have improved his defending from couple of seasons ago when he has a couple of games which is good to see .

by **DanAn** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:39 am

In the limited time his played he has had an impact. Nothing earth shattering but he has done his job. More than you can say for Dossena and while Aurelio may have been marginally better he is never available.

I think we should put both Dossena and Aurelio up for sale a buy a good LB using Insua on rotation.

by **mighty mo** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:46 pm

i thought the same about another young left back.....remember gregory vignal when he first broke into the team thinking he was a star in the making ......... insua has to show more for me to be convinced yet.... but so far he has not put a foot young... lets hope he becomes a mainstay in the team and not some flash in the pan.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:03 pm

He has looked more able than Dossena (that’s not hard) and Aurélio. Yes we all remember Gregory Vignal, but he was treated very harshly by Houllier and if more trust had been placed in him who knows what may have happened.

Insua has done enough in the past 3 games to deserve an extended run in the side even when Dossena and Aurélio are fit. He has slotted in nicely and does not look like a weak link at all.

He is 19 and has only played a few games at this level so of course he will end up costing us some goals but we should show some faith for once and give him the chance to develop into our first choice left back.

by **Toffeehater** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:49 am

For me now that skrtel is back , i think we should try out agger at left back for a couple of games and see how it goes . We're a better team when we have all 3 of them in our team . Insua has done a good job at left back , played well in the 3 games and shown maturity well beyond his years . His passing is good , he can cross and has shown the willingness to shoot but for me he's still too young , a loan deal will do him good .

by **Sabre** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:52 am

I see a lot of praise to the lad. I've seen positive signs in him, and I've seen serious mistakes, that are normal for his unexperience.

I won't ask the lad much. I'm more than happy he's having minutes and that's a success for him, and much needed, because it was about time to see lads from the youth team appearing in the first team.

We have to be patient with him, now, and when he has 2 awful games.

by **Fo Dne** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:06 pm

Sabre wrote:I see a lot of praise to the lad. I've seen positive signs in him, and I've seen serious mistakes, that are normal for his unexperience.

I won't ask the lad much. I'm more than happy he's having minutes and that's a success for him, and much needed, because it was about time to see lads from the youth team appearing in the first team.

We have to be patient with him, now, and when he has 2 awful games.

What serious mistakes? A lack of arial ability and ball watching once on one quick counter attack against one of the best sides in the country aren't what I'd call serious mistakes.

by **Sabre** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:10 pm

Fo Dne wrote:
Sabre wrote:I see a lot of praise to the lad. I've seen positive signs in him, and I've seen serious mistakes, that are normal for his unexperience.

I won't ask the lad much. I'm more than happy he's having minutes and that's a success for him, and much needed, because it was about time to see lads from the youth team appearing in the first team.

We have to be patient with him, now, and when he has 2 awful games.

What serious mistakes? A lack of arial ability and ball watching once on one quick counter attack against one of the best sides in the country aren't what I'd call serious mistakes.

As soon as I arrive home, I'll make the list of mistakes and the minute to know what I'm referring to. Most of them decissions and unnecessary risks.

Mind you, I'm happy with his game, and I appreciate what he has done well, all I'm saying is that this young players will make mistakes at this age and we have to be patient once the "new shoes" syndrome passes. That is, I don't want praises now, and in one month to read he's not good enough. Young players need patience, and we should not get too carried away with them.

He's doing well enough being on the first team with minutes and playing well. Saying he doesn't make mistakes is a bit exagerated. But we'll review that later.

by **DanAn** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:54 pm

Sabre wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:
Sabre wrote:I see a lot of praise to the lad. I've seen positive signs in him, and I've seen serious mistakes, that are normal for his unexperience.

I won't ask the lad much. I'm more than happy he's having minutes and that's a success for him, and much needed, because it was about time to see lads from the youth team appearing in the first team.

We have to be patient with him, now, and when he has 2 awful games.

What serious mistakes? A lack of arial ability and ball watching once on one quick counter attack against one of the best sides in the country aren't what I'd call serious mistakes.

As soon as I arrive home, I'll make the list of mistakes and the minute to know what I'm referring to. Most of them decissions and unnecessary risks.

Mind you, I'm happy with his game, and I appreciate what he has done well, all I'm saying is that this young players will make mistakes at this age and we have to be patient once the "new shoes" syndrome passes. That is, I don't want praises now, and in one month to read he's not good enough. Young players need patience, and we should not get too carried away with them.

He's doing well enough being on the first team with minutes and playing well. Saying he doesn't make mistakes is a bit exagerated. But we'll review that later.

I agree. I think against Arsenal he was nothing short of sensational but while he generally played well against Newcastle, I definately noticed a few glaring mistakes.

Still much rather those mistakes against Newcastle than Real Madrid or Manchester United. While Duff is quality he's not going to make you pay like Higuan or The :censored:

wit will.

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