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Postby bigmick » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:07 pm

He is "better" than Lucas without a doubt, but as he offers absolutely nothing defensively I wouldn't play him either. Neither of them offer much going forward, neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match, Lucas though does get his foot in so I'd play him in front of Aquilani. The truth is neither of them are much good and it doesn't make an awful lot of odds which one you go with.
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Postby club_Levis » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:08 pm

Sabre wrote:
Reg wrote:I think Rafa thought he was spanish when he bought him......... :laugh:

Yes, Bigmick has a new medal, and I don't have problems to give it, but my concern still remains.

Why Lucas? And why not put some trust on Aquilani instead? correct me if I'm wrong, in the 4 league games that Aquilani played we won.

The point is, ok, he's not worth 20M or capable to replace Alonso, but better than Lucas? I mean come on?

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Postby bunglemark2 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:09 pm

club_Levis wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Reg wrote:I think Rafa thought he was spanish when he bought him......... :laugh:

Maybe when Rafa was a lad his favourite superhero was Aquaman.

Well it's as good an explanation as any other because it sure as feck wasn't for his footballing abilities.  :sniffle

Maybe you have been so lucky to have seen him play a full match...@ training maybe? Other than that I cant see how you were able to reach such a conclusion this early.

The lad needs games and he has made more contribution to the team than Lucas  despite playing less.!!!

Mate, heimdall puts his foot in it more often than not. I'd suggest ignoring him...perhaps if enough of us do it, he might get the hint...
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Postby Sabre » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:13 pm

bigmick wrote:He is "better" than Lucas without a doubt, but as he offers absolutely nothing defensively I wouldn't play him either. Neither of them offer much going forward, neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match, Lucas though does get his foot in so I'd play him in front of Aquilani. The truth is neither of them are much good and it doesn't make an awful lot of odds which one you go with.

I didn't have problems to watch the team play with a double holding midfielder, and Alonso giving those horizontal and dull passes.

My problem with Benitez is that it seemed he had problems to play that way in the moment he chose to preffer Barry over Alonso.

So if Rafa sells Alonso, because one holding midfielder is enough and Gerrard has his share of tackles and defensive work, then you have to bring a player to play as an attacking oriented midfielder.

If you do that bet, you do it, and Rafa seems to be regretting his decission instead.

I think it's possible to play Mascherano supporting Gerrard and Aquilani on front of him, and I think things can't go much wronger than they went with Lucas commanding the midfield this season.

Sorry, I'm seriously frustated with this.
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Postby heimdall » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:16 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:
club_Levis wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Reg wrote:I think Rafa thought he was spanish when he bought him......... :laugh:

Maybe when Rafa was a lad his favourite superhero was Aquaman.

Well it's as good an explanation as any other because it sure as feck wasn't for his footballing abilities.  :sniffle

Maybe you have been so lucky to have seen him play a full match...@ training maybe? Other than that I cant see how you were able to reach such a conclusion this early.

The lad needs games and he has made more contribution to the team than Lucas  despite playing less.!!!

Mate, heimdall puts his foot in it more often than not. I'd suggest ignoring him...perhaps if enough of us do it, he might get the hint...

hmm, again advocating other people ignore me, I have actually been carded for that in the past, despite me doing it in jest.
I assume you'll go unpunished though.

Anyway what has drawn your ire this time, did I offend you by saying I don't like Aqualani, why just single me out over every other poster in this thread? What about Sabre, try having a pop at him, come on chum, I'm just trying to help you out of your rather unhealthy fixation with me, which is getting a bit tragic now.
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Postby bunglemark2 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:21 pm

heimdall wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:
club_Levis wrote:
heimdall wrote:
Reg wrote:I think Rafa thought he was spanish when he bought him......... :laugh:

Maybe when Rafa was a lad his favourite superhero was Aquaman.

Well it's as good an explanation as any other because it sure as feck wasn't for his footballing abilities.  :sniffle

Maybe you have been so lucky to have seen him play a full match...@ training maybe? Other than that I cant see how you were able to reach such a conclusion this early.

The lad needs games and he has made more contribution to the team than Lucas  despite playing less.!!!

Mate, heimdall puts his foot in it more often than not. I'd suggest ignoring him...perhaps if enough of us do it, he might get the hint...

hmm, again advocating other people ignore me, I have actually been carded for that in the past, despite me doing it in jest.
I assume you'll go unpunished though.

Anyway what has drawn your ire this time, did I offend you by saying I don't like Aqualani, why just single me out over every other poster in this thread? What about Sabre, try having a pop at him, come on chum, I'm just trying to help you out of your rather unhealthy fixation with me, which is getting a bit tragic now.

:laugh:

Nearly wet meself reading that.....
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Postby Sabre » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:27 pm

What about Sabre, try having a pop at him, come on chum, I'm just trying to help you out of your rather unhealthy fixation with me, which is getting a bit tragic now.


Hey leave me alone Heimdall  :D I've spent 3 months or so with a low posting ratio, so look somewhere else to find prorafa chiefs to attack!  :laugh:
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Postby Zidane » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:59 pm

Yeah I don't understand the Aquilani situation either, he doesn't whinge anywhere near as much as Robbie did.  I still believe he still has a lot more to offer cause he has shown glimpses of it in games where he has played so I won't count him out, yet.  Hopefully he plays the entire game against Unirea and plays well.
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Postby kazza » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:58 pm

heimdall wrote:I don't suppose there's any chance of you taking a break is there?  ???

Yes, two chances. Slim and no (and slim has fecked off)
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Postby Sir Roger » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:24 pm

bigmick wrote:He is "better" than Lucas without a doubt, but as he offers absolutely nothing defensively I wouldn't play him either. Neither of them offer much going forward, neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match, Lucas though does get his foot in so I'd play him in front of Aquilani. The truth is neither of them are much good and it doesn't make an awful lot of odds which one you go with.

Im baffled:

"Neither of them offer much going forward"
Aquilani assisted Kuyt for two goals the other week!

"neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match" Who would you expect him to distribute to? Ngog? Kuyt? Babel? None of who can hold up a ball to assist an attack

Every time he gets the ball and looks forward theres no-one there. Theyre either next to him or behind him.
What Ive seen of Aquilani is a player who wants to play forward and create chances but is being bogged down by Rafas "sludge tactics" This in turn makes him look like a waste of money because hes not spraying 60 yard passes which unlock defences.
I fear that Rafas stubbornness and control freakery will make Aquilani as ineffectual as Babel, Riera and Lucas are now
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Postby metalhead » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:47 pm

our 20m signing played only 4 minutes against Man City.

20m signing

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Postby metalhead » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:48 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
bigmick wrote:He is "better" than Lucas without a doubt, but as he offers absolutely nothing defensively I wouldn't play him either. Neither of them offer much going forward, neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match, Lucas though does get his foot in so I'd play him in front of Aquilani. The truth is neither of them are much good and it doesn't make an awful lot of odds which one you go with.

Im baffled:

"Neither of them offer much going forward"
Aquilani assisted Kuyt for two goals the other week!

"neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match" Who would you expect him to distribute to? Ngog? Kuyt? Babel? None of who can hold up a ball to assist an attack

Every time he gets the ball and looks forward theres no-one there. Theyre either next to him or behind him.
What Ive seen of Aquilani is a player who wants to play forward and create chances but is being bogged down by Rafas "sludge tactics" This in turn makes him look like a waste of money because hes not spraying 60 yard passes which unlock defences.
I fear that Rafas stubbornness and control freakery will make Aquilani as ineffectual as Babel, Riera and Lucas are now

are you calling Rafa a shyte manager?

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Postby Scottbot » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:55 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
bigmick wrote:He is "better" than Lucas without a doubt, but as he offers absolutely nothing defensively I wouldn't play him either. Neither of them offer much going forward, neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match, Lucas though does get his foot in so I'd play him in front of Aquilani. The truth is neither of them are much good and it doesn't make an awful lot of odds which one you go with.

Im baffled:

"Neither of them offer much going forward"
Aquilani assisted Kuyt for two goals the other week!

"neither of them distribute in a fashion which is likely to alter the flow of the match" Who would you expect him to distribute to? Ngog? Kuyt? Babel? None of who can hold up a ball to assist an attack

Every time he gets the ball and looks forward theres no-one there. Theyre either next to him or behind him.
What Ive seen of Aquilani is a player who wants to play forward and create chances but is being bogged down by Rafas "sludge tactics" This in turn makes him look like a waste of money because hes not spraying 60 yard passes which unlock defences.
I fear that Rafas stubbornness and control freakery will make Aquilani as ineffectual as Babel, Riera and Lucas are now

There's some truth in what you say mate but the fact remains that Rafa has bought a player who doesn't seem interesting in making a tackle and players like that don't do so good in English football. That's why he can't get a game at the moment.
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:56 pm

bigmick wrote:
bigmick wrote:Well after seeing Alberto for the first time in a fullish game, I'm going to go out on a limb given the fact he clearly wasn't fit (I wonder why :D) and say I was disappointed in his contribution. A couple of people have described him as being a "floater" and that's all good, but you've still got to have the determination to influence the play. For me he didn't do enough, didn't attempt enough, and didn't want it enough. I thought defensively he was absolutely powder puff, and I couldn't work out exactly what sort of player he is.

Based on that, I'm going to go out on a limb totally and say I don't think he'll be a good signing for us for 18-20 million quid. Early I know after one half fit performance, but that's what I think anyway. My money's on him going back to Italy at the end of next season.

And to think it was only two months ago that a post such as this one was so controversial. It may have been "way too early" then, but it seems it is no longer so.

Surely Mick hasn't been banned because of the two postas he made in this thread? Mods?
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Postby metalhead » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:58 pm

Read his the weather thread scott mate
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