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by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:43 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:But you wanted him gone last season as well didnt you saint ?

He has had a run of poor 13 games is it ? what then happens if we have a good run of the same amount of games or has the damaged been done ?

I really didn't want him gone mate. NEVER. I just wanted LIVERPOOL to be successful.

I didn't believe, and still don't believe he is the best we can get. HE MAKES TOO MANY MISTAKES.

I thought we made a big mistake giving him a five year contract, and that soured me even more because I don't think he deserved such a long contract.

But all I want is a successful club, be it under Rafa or whoever else. I "think" we can do better , as I think there are better managers out there who can do more with less, and get the players we do have playing to their potential.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:46 pm

Yes there is better managers around than Rafa - dont think anyone has ever suggested he is the best around but what are those better managers doing currently ?

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:56 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Yes there is better managers around than Rafa - dont think anyone has ever suggested he is the best around but what are those better managers doing currently ?

Most of them are probably sat there hoping the phone rings

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:58 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes there is better managers around than Rafa - dont think anyone has ever suggested he is the best around but what are those better managers doing currently ?

Most of them are probably sat there hoping the phone rings

Ok which ones saint ?

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:06 pm

Why restrict ourselves by naming managers now. Lets wait and see what happens with Rafa first mate. I gave the list of my top three a while ago, I am no expert on which European managers are the best. As I have said repeatedly, I had never heard of Rafa before he came here.

The first and most important decision is that Rafa should go, then we start naming names...... although my personal choice would be Dalglish till the end of the season, then either keep him if things have gone well, or see who we can get if things haven't improved.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:07 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes there is better managers around than Rafa - dont think anyone has ever suggested he is the best around but what are those better managers doing currently ?

Most of them are probably sat there hoping the phone rings

nice one S@int. i bet GYBS will then ask "who" and after you list down a few names, the next thing will be a list of assumptions on why Gosh You Bloody Spammer thinks that person would not come and finally, "oh but who will want to work with our owners" and you're back to square 1 again.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:11 pm

Ok what happens if Kenny didnt do well and things went even more downhill - mainly due to being out the game for well over ten years .I knwo you wouldnt attack him but could you guarentee that no one else would and then he would be subjected to the sort of abuse Rafa is currently subjected to ?

Their is currently a number of top class managers around the european stage for both of club or country saint - seeing as its only us two chatting then name away who your three was you suggested - barring kenny ? .

What would you think of Klinsmann if he got offered the job ?

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:13 pm

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes there is better managers around than Rafa - dont think anyone has ever suggested he is the best around but what are those better managers doing currently ?

Most of them are probably sat there hoping the phone rings

nice one S@int. i bet GYBS will then ask "who" and after you list down a few names, the next thing will be a list of assumptions on why Gosh You Bloody Spammer thinks that person would not come and finally, "oh but who will want to work with our owners" and you're back to square 1 again.

If you have nothing to add to the thread apart from to try and sh.it stir then kindly dont add anything at all - if you have something worthwhile to add to the subject we are talking about then post away .

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:27 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Ok what happens if Kenny didnt do well and things went even more downhill - mainly due to being out the game for well over ten years .I knwo you wouldnt attack him but could you guarentee that no one else would and then he would be subjected to the sort of abuse Rafa is currently subjected to ?

Their is currently a number of top class managers around the european stage for both of club or country saint - seeing as its only us two chatting then name away who your three was you suggested - barring kenny ? .

What would you think of Klinsmann if he got offered the job ?

Why would things not go well for Kenny, he really doesn't have much to live up to does he ? No cups 7th in the league out of the CL. I think Kenny could match that mate.

I could list about 10 mate , but it wouldn't mean a thing. I don't really know much about most of them, I don't KNOW that they would want to come, I don't know we could afford them.

I don't know much about Klinsmann either mate. Of the ones I do know (as they have managed in the prem) my top three would be Dalglish, Mourinho and Hiddink.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:32 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Ok what happens if Kenny didnt do well and things went even more downhill - mainly due to being out the game for well over ten years .I knwo you wouldnt attack him but could you guarentee that no one else would and then he would be subjected to the sort of abuse Rafa is currently subjected to ?

Their is currently a number of top class managers around the european stage for both of club or country saint - seeing as its only us two chatting then name away who your three was you suggested - barring kenny ? .

What would you think of Klinsmann if he got offered the job ?

Why would things not go well for Kenny, he really doesn't have much to live up to does he ? No cups 7th in the league out of the CL. I think Kenny could match that mate.

I could list about 10 mate , but it wouldn't mean a thing. I don't really know much about most of them, I don't KNOW that they would want to come, I don't know we could afford them.

I don't know much about Klinsmann either mate. Of the ones I do know (as they have managed in the prem) my top three would be Dalglish, Mourinho and Hiddink.

Things may not go well due to kenny being away from the game for well over ten years - last management experience he had was way back in the 90s with Newcastle and it didnt go well there . For me thats a big risk .

Can fully understand the sentiment and the reasons why kenny .

As can understand the reasons why Hiddink and Maureen would be in top three as they are both top quality managers but Hiddink has his ties with Chelsea and Roman and will either see him stay international or go to chelsea as a director or something - the guy has already stated he would only ever go to chelsea to manage in the prem and no one else .

Maureen - well the discussions about him are endless but IMO i think there is three jobs he wants - Us , Man Utd and Real Madrid . I think he will wait for the Man Utd job .

Who are the tenish mate - i got a few in my mind

People like

Jol
O Neill
Capello
Mancini etc ?

And Klinsmann - well first job he had a smanager was german national boss and took them to wc quarters i think then went to Bayern and flopped their after spending a lot of money on players like Ribery only to be sacked .

by **redhayesy** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:52 pm

stay.

by **bigmick** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:15 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:What would you think of Klinsmann if he got offered the job ?

Usual disclaimers-I don't want Klinnsman as our manager etc etc, but in terms of accuracy I notice you did say he got knocked out at the quarter final stages with Germany. Wrong I'm afraid.

Klinnsman took over after a disasterous campaign at Euro 2004 when Rudi Voller was sacked. He revamped things, completely changed the make up of the swuad and took Germany to the semi finals of the 2006 World Cup with a young, attacking team. On the way they beat Argentina in the quarters. In the semi's, they were beaten 2-0 by two late extra time goals by Italy, the eventual champions. They then beat Portugal in the third place play off and came home to a hero's welcome, the team massively surpassing what the public and media thought was possible. Klinnsman was lauded by all and sundry, but despite illuminaries such as Franz Beckanbauer pleading his case RESIGNED his post after the World Cup.

I'll check out the Bayern record when I get a mo.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:18 pm

Ok semis not quarters then and not sure why you put resigned in bold letters thou

by **bigmick** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:20 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Ok semis not quarters then and not sure why you put resigned in bold letters thou

Well semi's not quarters is a big difference in International football. Also, he did it with a team which was in disarray when he took over. I've put RESIGNED because if you listened to rafa's interview and to some people on here, you'd get the impression the bloke was clueless and was booted out of the job in disgrace.

Like I say he wouldn't be my choice, just setting things down as they apparently are.

by **metalhead** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:26 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Just to be clear, I think Rafa should leave--now if we can get a suitable replacement (and I would be prepared to give Dalglish a go as caretaker) or, failing that, at the end of the season.

BB, don't deny the truth, welcome to the dark side.. My master S@int converted me a few month ago

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