DEBRECEN VS LIVERPOOL - Time to do a "bermenstein"

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Postby tonyeh » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:43 am

Bad Bob wrote:
bigmick wrote:On the Aquilani substitution, has anybody got any plausible explanation whatsoever? I mean, if he was fit then surely we could have used him earlier. If he wasn't fit then why bother putting him on the bench, and more to the point why bother bringing him on? I'm not asking anyone to agree with the decision, just to offer up a reason which can be construed as remotely realistic? Is it just that we wanted to waste a few seconds maybe?

Very odd.

Had me completely baffled, TBPH.  Obviously, at that late stage, it was to waste time but why choose Aquilani?  By all accounts, the lad's bursting at the seams to get a run out and Rafa's keeping him wrapped in cotton wool for some reason.  But it verges on taking the p!ss to tell the fella to strip off for the last seconds.  :Oo:

The worst thing is Bob, I can only imagine what all this nonsense is doing to the palyer himself.

Surely, he must have been think WTF? himself tonight.

I actually laughed out loud.

But that sub tonight sums up Benitez for me, I'm afraid.
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Postby beng » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:44 am

Players' efforts in the game versus Debreceni
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:44 am

Dont worry we might have Maureen at Anfield next year





















If inter loose in the next game and go out as well into Europa Cup :p
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:45 am

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Benny The Noon wrote:It really is a said state of affairs when it comes to a point where you get attacked for sticking up for our own manager , just because you support something you think has done great things for the club and believe can still do despite a current poor run .

You're being attacked, because you're talking shit.

Benitez isn't Liverpool...he's just a manager. That's all. And he's a manager with considerable limitations, who makes truely baffling decisions, like tonight.

And your constant ra ra bleating is ridiculous and only goes to show you up as a twit. Not an uberfan or Liverpool fan No1, or whatever you think the image is you're trying to portray.

Goodbye

Stick to the subject instead of attacking me .
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Postby Bad Bob » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:46 am

tonyeh wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
bigmick wrote:On the Aquilani substitution, has anybody got any plausible explanation whatsoever? I mean, if he was fit then surely we could have used him earlier. If he wasn't fit then why bother putting him on the bench, and more to the point why bother bringing him on? I'm not asking anyone to agree with the decision, just to offer up a reason which can be construed as remotely realistic? Is it just that we wanted to waste a few seconds maybe?

Very odd.

Had me completely baffled, TBPH.  Obviously, at that late stage, it was to waste time but why choose Aquilani?  By all accounts, the lad's bursting at the seams to get a run out and Rafa's keeping him wrapped in cotton wool for some reason.  But it verges on taking the p!ss to tell the fella to strip off for the last seconds.  :Oo:

The worst thing is Bob, I can only imagine what all this nonsense is doing to the palyer himself.

Surely, he must have been think WTF? himself tonight.

I actually laughed out loud.

But that sub tonight sums up Benitez for me, I'm afraid.

Had that thought myself.  I'm sure he was just thrilled to come on in stoppage time.  The game was crying out for him by the 50 minute mark and he gets brought on to waste time and see out a 1-0 win against the group whipping boys.  Not with a bang but a whimper...
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:50 am

We are already favourites to win the Europa league :D Maybe we could play Everton in the final.
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:50 am

Bad Bob wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
bigmick wrote:On the Aquilani substitution, has anybody got any plausible explanation whatsoever? I mean, if he was fit then surely we could have used him earlier. If he wasn't fit then why bother putting him on the bench, and more to the point why bother bringing him on? I'm not asking anyone to agree with the decision, just to offer up a reason which can be construed as remotely realistic? Is it just that we wanted to waste a few seconds maybe?

Very odd.

Had me completely baffled, TBPH.  Obviously, at that late stage, it was to waste time but why choose Aquilani?  By all accounts, the lad's bursting at the seams to get a run out and Rafa's keeping him wrapped in cotton wool for some reason.  But it verges on taking the p!ss to tell the fella to strip off for the last seconds.  :Oo:

The worst thing is Bob, I can only imagine what all this nonsense is doing to the palyer himself.

Surely, he must have been think WTF? himself tonight.

I actually laughed out loud.

But that sub tonight sums up Benitez for me, I'm afraid.

Had that thought myself.  I'm sure he was just thrilled to come on in stoppage time.  The game was crying out for him by the 50 minute mark and he gets brought on to waste time and see out a 1-0 win against the group whipping boys.  Not with a bang but a whimper...

Agreed. If he's fit enough to be on the bench, he's fit enough for more than 30 seconds playing time.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:01 am

tonyeh wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:It really is a said state of affairs when it comes to a point where you get attacked for sticking up for our own manager , just because you support something you think has done great things for the club and believe can still do despite a current poor run .

You're being attacked, because you're talking shit.

Benitez isn't Liverpool...he's just a manager. That's all. And he's a manager with considerable limitations, who makes truely baffling decisions, like tonight.

And your constant ra ra bleating is ridiculous and only goes to show you up as a twit. Not an uberfan or Liverpool fan No1, or whatever you think the image is you're trying to portray.

Did we lose?

Did we draw?

Or did we win?

Just because you don't understand something, that does not mean it is wrong.
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Postby SupitsJonF » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:05 am

Benny The Noon wrote:And yes i did say sh.it at the end of the season and as i said in thread at the time i corrected myself and said poor players who arent up to the task IMO .

There is a difference between what people like you and Big Mick and a few others say about the manager when you actually provide some back up and valid fews as opposed to the people that just slag him off on constant basis .

But these people can also think that we have a poor manager who isn't up to the task, no?

The same way you feel about defending him, they feel about attacking him.  It really is a two-way street, and neither side is better than the other, no matter what we may think.  (And besides, the true superfan is gone now anyways :D). 

I don't take someone saying, Ngog is :censored:, Torres played :censored: that game, and such comments as insults to LFC.  I also feel the same way with insults to the manager, it isnt Gerrard FC, Torres FC, nor Rafa FC.  It's Liverpool Football Club, and I'm sure everyone here loves the club, they just are giving opinions.  Sometimes not said in the best way, but at this point in the season, given where we are, certainly not unwarranted.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:06 am

Did we go through or were we knocked out ?

We lost to Barca at home but went through..... was that just a defeat or was the important thing that we went through.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:07 am

tonyeh wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
bigmick wrote:On the Aquilani substitution, has anybody got any plausible explanation whatsoever? I mean, if he was fit then surely we could have used him earlier. If he wasn't fit then why bother putting him on the bench, and more to the point why bother bringing him on? I'm not asking anyone to agree with the decision, just to offer up a reason which can be construed as remotely realistic? Is it just that we wanted to waste a few seconds maybe?

Very odd.

Had me completely baffled, TBPH.  Obviously, at that late stage, it was to waste time but why choose Aquilani?  By all accounts, the lad's bursting at the seams to get a run out and Rafa's keeping him wrapped in cotton wool for some reason.  But it verges on taking the p!ss to tell the fella to strip off for the last seconds.  :Oo:

The worst thing is Bob, I can only imagine what all this nonsense is doing to the palyer himself.

Surely, he must have been think WTF? himself tonight.

I actually laughed out loud.

But that sub tonight sums up Benitez for me, I'm afraid.

Had that thought myself.  I'm sure he was just thrilled to come on in stoppage time.  The game was crying out for him by the 50 minute mark and he gets brought on to waste time and see out a 1-0 win against the group whipping boys.  Not with a bang but a whimper...

Agreed. If he's fit enough to be on the bench, he's fit enough for more than 30 seconds playing time.

Let's set the scene:

Minute 60; Liverpool are 1-0 up in a tough game on an even tougher surface. They're already without their star striker and their best player is still recovering from a groin injury which could really do with an op. Due to the tough conditions under foot and the delicate nature of the groin, Rafa subs off his Captain and replaces him with Aquilani - still yet to play more than 20 minutes of football in over 6 months.
Liverpool continue to struggle as the Hungarians play the biggest game of their lives yet still manage to run out 1-0 winners...


Do not even consider trying to tell me that you would have accepted this as a good precautionary move. Do not even think about pretending you wouldn't have crucified him for subbing Gerrard off earlier.

That's the position Rafa finds himself in with numbskulls like you: Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

:no
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:09 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
tonyeh wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:It really is a said state of affairs when it comes to a point where you get attacked for sticking up for our own manager , just because you support something you think has done great things for the club and believe can still do despite a current poor run .

You're being attacked, because you're talking shit.

Benitez isn't Liverpool...he's just a manager. That's all. And he's a manager with considerable limitations, who makes truely baffling decisions, like tonight.

And your constant ra ra bleating is ridiculous and only goes to show you up as a twit. Not an uberfan or Liverpool fan No1, or whatever you think the image is you're trying to portray.

Did we lose?

Did we draw?

Or did we win?

Just because you don't understand something, that does not mean it is wrong.

For god's sake...

We BARELY won! In fact, we very nearly only drew...

...against a fuckin pub team that our under 16's should be beating comfortably.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:13 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Let's set the scene:

Minute 60; Liverpool are 1-0 up in a tough game on an even tougher surface. They're already without their star striker and their best player is still recovering from a groin injury which could really do with an op. Due to the tough conditions under foot and the delicate nature of the groin, Rafa subs off his Captain and replaces him with Aquilani - still yet to play more than 20 minutes of football in over 6 months.
Liverpool continue to struggle as the Hungarians play the biggest game of their lives yet still manage to run out 1-0 winners...


Do not even consider trying to tell me that you would have accepted this as a good precautionary move. Do not even think about pretending you wouldn't have crucified him for subbing Gerrard off earlier.

That's the position Rafa finds himself in with numbskulls like you: Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

:no

Or :- lets set the scene :

Minute 60; Liverpool are 1-0 up, they take off Lucas and bring on Aquilani who inspires Liverpool to a convincing second half performance and a 4-0 win. Meanwhile in Florence Lyon get a creditable draw meaning  Liverpool only need a 2-0 win to progress.

No one knew if Lyon would equalise mate.

Damned if he doesn't.
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Postby redhayesy » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:13 am

tonyeh wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:It really is a said state of affairs when it comes to a point where you get attacked for sticking up for our own manager , just because you support something you think has done great things for the club and believe can still do despite a current poor run .

You're being attacked, because you're talking shit.

Benitez isn't Liverpool...he's just a manager. That's all. And he's a manager with considerable limitations, who makes truely baffling decisions, like tonight.

And your constant ra ra bleating is ridiculous and only goes to show you up as a twit. Not an uberfan or Liverpool fan No1, or whatever you think the image is you're trying to portray.

there you go benny mate, that reply to you says it all for me & you about this forum at the moment!

Benitez isn't Liverpool...he's just a manager. that's all. (quote)

al tell you somthing for nothing - if you have ever stood on the kop-oh that's assuming youv'e ever benn on the kop, let alone been to a game- you would know that comments like that would really show you up an prove that you were the one talking sh1t!

just like shankly isn't LiverpooL.... Was just the manager.
just like paisley isn't LiverpooL....was just the manager. 

i won't continue cause if the likes of you need reminding that in our history, all LFC managers iv'e ever read about,watched etc have not lived,breathed an eat LFC would have never won anything in their time with the club.

when the Kop sings your name in support- that shows respect,from those that know you are more than just a manager etc believe me.
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:34 am

tonyeh wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Its quite easily to not be insulting - do you see me insulting you when i may think you are producing utter rubbish ?

debate my point of view - disagree with it by all means but dont insult me .

You don't have a point of view.

It's the same old repetition. That's not a point of view. It's simply spouting mantra.

your wasting your time on that idiot mate. once a GYBS, always a GYBS.
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