Owzat wrote:Can anyone see Man Utd shopping at the relegated clubs? No. They mostly offload rubbish on them, players not good enough to make it at a big club. There are a few big names at Newcastle and Boro, but we should be shopping elsewhere. I'd question if Tuncay, Downing, Taylor or Wheater would break into our first team squad, I doubt they would be sold cheaply, so why pay over the odds for Festy's "back-up" list? I'd rather sign a quality CB and make Skrtel and Agger "back-up", sign Tevez and make Riera "back-up". Owen if he'd be happy not starting and at the right price, I would go for, but I doubt he would go for it. Duff would have been a good signing 5-6 years ago, not now. Martins may seem like a good striker, he isn't a great striker and plays as much or less than Owen.
Why have Boro and Newcastle sunk? Newcastle because they bought a lot of ordinary players and have too many players with injury problems. Bassong, Guthrie, Butt, Barton, Smith, Capaca, Beye, Geremi and Xisco are hardly the greatest signings, they gradually brought in substandard players and finally the balance has tipped them over the edge and into the Championship. They have done a bit of a Leeds, paid a lot for ordinary fare and on high wages. At least a number of their players are going to be where they belong
Boro sank because their manager is cr ap, they have a lot of ordinary players and ordinary English players, and don't score enough goals. Once they lost Schwarzer and Viduka they were screwed, an attacking line-up of Alves, Aliadiere, and Tuncay is never going to score you a lot of goals with a fairly ordinary midfield and ok, but not great, defence.
redhayesy wrote:Owzat wrote:Can anyone see Man Utd shopping at the relegated clubs? No. They mostly offload rubbish on them, players not good enough to make it at a big club. There are a few big names at Newcastle and Boro, but we should be shopping elsewhere. I'd question if Tuncay, Downing, Taylor or Wheater would break into our first team squad, I doubt they would be sold cheaply, so why pay over the odds for Festy's "back-up" list? I'd rather sign a quality CB and make Skrtel and Agger "back-up", sign Tevez and make Riera "back-up". Owen if he'd be happy not starting and at the right price, I would go for, but I doubt he would go for it. Duff would have been a good signing 5-6 years ago, not now. Martins may seem like a good striker, he isn't a great striker and plays as much or less than Owen.
Why have Boro and Newcastle sunk? Newcastle because they bought a lot of ordinary players and have too many players with injury problems. Bassong, Guthrie, Butt, Barton, Smith, Capaca, Beye, Geremi and Xisco are hardly the greatest signings, they gradually brought in substandard players and finally the balance has tipped them over the edge and into the Championship. They have done a bit of a Leeds, paid a lot for ordinary fare and on high wages. At least a number of their players are going to be where they belong
Boro sank because their manager is cr ap, they have a lot of ordinary players and ordinary English players, and don't score enough goals. Once they lost Schwarzer and Viduka they were screwed, an attacking line-up of Alves, Aliadiere, and Tuncay is never going to score you a lot of goals with a fairly ordinary midfield and ok, but not great, defence.
suberb post mate, agree with you apart from the owen part, i don't want owen back not for any reason! he made his bed he has to lie on it! he will moe than ever now regret the day he left LFC.
but agree with you that why would we want any player from the mentioned clubs, like you say if manure wouldn't take them,or they are not good enough to play for manure why would we want them. forget price, or age their isn't one player mentioned i'd even consider.
Ace Ventura wrote:Not meaning to sound like am being funny mate but that seems a little naive and we are thinking we are above our station.
Now i agree that we should be shopping n the same places as united chelsea real madrid etc etc etc.
But we are not in the same financial position.
Ace Ventura wrote:Again i agree, there is not much to look at anyway from the relegated trio.
Ace Ventura wrote:But if we TOLD Owen that we might sign him as a back up. And that while he will be a key squad member thats exactly all he will be, and he fancied it on pay as you play. Then we would be mad to pass it up due to his previous bad decision making.
Just my opinion like
Ace Ventura wrote:I think we often pay over the odds for players.
As soon as we come in for someone the club adds a few million straight away.
There are obviously some good players out there if you can spot them, and Moyes to be fair has done really well with the likes of Arteta and Cahill.
Not convinced when he has spent big though Fellaini and Yakubu.
Just as a side note, why have you put John obi mikel in your team, he is dog poo and resembles a surprised moon.
Ace Ventura wrote:Owen on a pay as you play as a back up to Torres and a sub in tight games.
I think yes what about you.
Ignore his end to the season with Newcastle they had gone and it wasnt just him that seemed to be playing like they knew what was going to happen.
I would only take him as a squad player, just to play those games if or when Torres is injured or tired.
Like Fernando his understanding with Stevie was brilliant and he could certainly come in when required and produce the goods.
Would be a MASSIVE step up on Ngog as our replacement striker.
GYBS wrote:We need to be looking forward not backwards - Owen left us years ago and is now no longer the footballer he was - It worked with bringing Fowler back cause he had and still does Liverpool in his heart - the only person Owen cares about is himself . He has scored a goal every 3-4 games for Newcastle . Would rather anymore spent on wages for a player would go towards someone who will benefit the team a lot more . He is 30 now - injury prone and lost his main weapon .
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