Tevez anyone?

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Postby Owzat » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:16 am

DanAn wrote:Can't he play LW, AM, RW & Striker?

----------Reina---------
Arbeloa Carra Skrtel Insua
---Alonso--Masherano---
Kuyt----Gerrard----Tevez
---------Torres----------

I think that could work. Tevez can shift if any of Torres, Gerrard or Kuyt get injured. Riera as cover.

Ideally obviously he plays as a striker but I think he's good enough to play in this formation rather than just sit on the bench until Torres is subbed\injured. He'd be a better option than Riera IMO (who I rate quite highly).

What I've been thinking and I think I suggested it in the "most improved" thread. The thing with Tevez is he needs to play a lot or he might as well stay where he is, I wouldn't want to move Gerrard and for me Riera is the weakest attacking link. He's better on the ball than Kuyt, but less end product. We shift Gerrard to the right and we could lose half his goals, we'd lose all Kuyt's and keeping Riera on the left could simply mean we end up scoring less goals than we do without Tevez.

I'm not what you might call a big fan of Tevez, but I can see how he could work in our team. He's more creativity, vision and goalscoring than a lot of our existing players, and the split of 6-4 in terms of defensive-attacking split would be stronger with plenty of workers willing to help out defensively. I could see us winning some of the games we draw with Tevez at Anfield, if we try playing orthodox wingers then we lose goalscoring potency and put way too much pressure on Torres to score.

But I'm not sure that back four doesn't need reviewing. I'm not completely convinced by Arbeloa, Sktrel or Insua and think we could find stronger full-backs from an attacking and defensive perspective - either or both
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Postby DanAn » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:24 am

Owzat wrote:
DanAn wrote:Can't he play LW, AM, RW & Striker?

----------Reina---------
Arbeloa Carra Skrtel Insua
---Alonso--Masherano---
Kuyt----Gerrard----Tevez
---------Torres----------

I think that could work. Tevez can shift if any of Torres, Gerrard or Kuyt get injured. Riera as cover.

Ideally obviously he plays as a striker but I think he's good enough to play in this formation rather than just sit on the bench until Torres is subbed\injured. He'd be a better option than Riera IMO (who I rate quite highly).

What I've been thinking and I think I suggested it in the "most improved" thread. The thing with Tevez is he needs to play a lot or he might as well stay where he is, I wouldn't want to move Gerrard and for me Riera is the weakest attacking link. He's better on the ball than Kuyt, but less end product. We shift Gerrard to the right and we could lose half his goals, we'd lose all Kuyt's and keeping Riera on the left could simply mean we end up scoring less goals than we do without Tevez.

I'm not what you might call a big fan of Tevez, but I can see how he could work in our team. He's more creativity, vision and goalscoring than a lot of our existing players, and the split of 6-4 in terms of defensive-attacking split would be stronger with plenty of workers willing to help out defensively. I could see us winning some of the games we draw with Tevez at Anfield, if we try playing orthodox wingers then we lose goalscoring potency and put way too much pressure on Torres to score.

But I'm not sure that back four doesn't need reviewing. I'm not completely convinced by Arbeloa, Sktrel or Insua and think we could find stronger full-backs from an attacking and defensive perspective - either or both

Picking up Tevez and I'd be happy with the attack but yeah I agree we needed to address other area's. I'd like an alternative to Arbeloa and maybe a CB to replace Skrtel as you suggest, I'd also like a better CM than Lucas.

Tevez, Barry, Wheater and Johnson would be ace and improve our mix of English players. I'm not certain about Johnson though, I think I would prefer someone else but don't have any suggestions.
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Postby GYBS » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:31 am

Would be happy with Tevez and Silva and Johnson - no barry and wheater ?? no thanks - would prefer turner from hull before wheater as a back up cb
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Postby kazza » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:33 am

Tevez played a year for West Ham and a couple for Utd. Does that mean that he only has two years remaining on his contract with his owner and would then leave his owner on a free? Does that mean he will be cheaper as he only has a short while left on he contract? Surely Bosman rules are applicable here.
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Postby DanAn » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:55 am

Why not Barry? He's quality, at a bargain price and a whole lot better than Lucas. We could probably pick him up for about 10m, considering we could sell Lucas for somewhere around 5m I think it would be a good move.

As for Wheater, fair enough. I think he looks really promising but I can understand the preferance for Turner. Both big English CB who are dangerous at corners. Same idea just slightly different player preference.
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Postby destro » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:50 pm

DanAn wrote:Why not Barry? He's quality, at a bargain price and a whole lot better than Lucas. We could probably pick him up for about 10m, considering we could sell Lucas for somewhere around 5m I think it would be a good move.

As for Wheater, fair enough. I think he looks really promising but I can understand the preferance for Turner. Both big English CB who are dangerous at corners. Same idea just slightly different player preference.

I thought Barry was available on a free after this season ?
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Postby GYBS » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:42 pm

DanAn wrote:Why not Barry? He's quality, at a bargain price and a whole lot better than Lucas. We could probably pick him up for about 10m, considering we could sell Lucas for somewhere around 5m I think it would be a good move.

As for Wheater, fair enough. I think he looks really promising but I can understand the preferance for Turner. Both big English CB who are dangerous at corners. Same idea just slightly different player preference.

cause i dont think he would bring anything extra to the club and he cant develop as a player as he is starting to reach the 30 mark - i would rather not waste ten million on him and keep developing lucas and save the ten million for areas of more importance .
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Postby tubby » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:14 pm

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DanAn wrote:Why not Barry? He's quality, at a bargain price and a whole lot better than Lucas. We could probably pick him up for about 10m, considering we could sell Lucas for somewhere around 5m I think it would be a good move.

As for Wheater, fair enough. I think he looks really promising but I can understand the preferance for Turner. Both big English CB who are dangerous at corners. Same idea just slightly different player preference.

I thought Barry was available on a free after this season ?

No not free. He will enter the last year of his contract in the summer so he would be around 8Mil.
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Postby SundanceKid » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:41 pm

One class striker and one class winger; That's all we need. We can win league without them though, it'll just make it an easier ride
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Postby tubby » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:47 pm

And a class RB please.
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Postby SundanceKid » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:55 pm

bavlondon wrote:And a class RB please.

Well yeah if Rafa can't fix Arbeloa through means of torture this summer
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Postby Alex G. » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:59 pm

Better option to use the money on Barry, Johnson and one striker.

Tevez can go and fu.ck off back to Notre Dame! :D
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Postby Cream of Europe » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:45 am

Don't want any manc scum. He's far to inconsistent, and runs around like a headless chook.  We dodged a bullet when we didn't sign Heinze and like Robbie, he'll only be a liability. We need to bring in some strong youth talent and build. This to me is why United are going to dominate for the next couple of years. Rafael, Fabio, Macheda, Anderson, Evans, Gibson etc, will all be forces to be reckoned with.
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Postby DanAn » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:06 am

Cream of Europe wrote:Don't want any manc scum. He's far to inconsistent, and runs around like a headless chook.  We dodged a bullet when we didn't sign Heinze and like Robbie, he'll only be a liability. We need to bring in some strong youth talent and build. This to me is why United are going to dominate for the next couple of years. Rafael, Fabio, Macheda, Anderson, Evans, Gibson etc, will all be forces to be reckoned with.

I disagree, we've been buying youth talent for the last five years and I think they are every bit as good as Manchester United's. We just don't have the depth they do.
Insua, Lucas, N'gog, Babel, Plessis
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Rafael, Anderson, Macheda, Evans, Fabio


There's not that big a difference IMO
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Postby macaroon » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:06 am

Dunno Cream he's pretty good for them.

What gets me is that like Heinze most of us are keen to get him if we can, but generally the Mancs don't ever want to take any of our players.

Clearly they are clueless.

PS I see what you did there re Tevez.
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