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by **tubby** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:10 am

aCe' wrote:i thought the gesture was immature and disrespectful... but then again.. Benitez does no wrong i guess so all hail the gaffer and move on... Big Sam and Fergie are kunts..etc etc

How exactly was is disrespectufl? If you have been reading this thread then you would know those actions were not in any way realted tothe notion of the 'match being over' but rather Alonso crossing the ball. Had the shot come from centenary stand so you could see what was going on the pitch you wouldn't say that.

Your out of order mate.

by **redtrader74** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:10 am

This all goes to prove what Rafa said before, Fergie can do and say what he wants, he has far too much influence within the premiership, it is clear that he has colluded with at least 1, possibly 2 managers to coordinate an attack on Rafa. How can that be right? Who knows what else they have agreed on before, we all know lardy boy is prone to taking a bung, his teams generally get thrashed by manu.

Rafa should say 'It is sad to see the onset of senility'

by **lakes10** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:16 am

Fergie is just trying to turn the whole of the UK off Liverpool. over the last year we have got some very good press (yes and some bad) in Fergies view the 20 year thing has come at the wrong time, he needs everyone to hate Liverpool right now and the way we played in midd week has not helped him.

by **supersub** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:16 am

aCe' wrote:i thought the gesture was immature and disrespectful... but then again.. Benitez does no wrong i guess so all hail the gaffer and move on... Big Sam and Fergie are kunts..etc etc

If I was just an ordinary member I would quite easily tell you to fu.ck off but I can't possibly say that as I'm a moderator and have to show a little decorum.

by **dawson99** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:00 am

supersub wrote:
aCe' wrote:i thought the gesture was immature and disrespectful... but then again.. Benitez does no wrong i guess so all hail the gaffer and move on... Big Sam and Fergie are kunts..etc etc

If I was just an ordinary member I would quite easily tell you to fu.ck off but I can't possibly say that as I'm a moderator and have to show a little decorum.

I'm an ordinary member...

F'uck off ace :buttrock

by **Owzat** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:22 pm

Rather silly attack on Rafa, just looking for an excuse to have a pop. The everton comment was ages ago, funny he should wait until a big semi before mentioning it publicly. Of course he talks of respect and then suggests he may field a weaker team..............

Daily Mail doesn't back him in their article, but calls him "crafty" - hardly given his hot air is unsubstantiated by claims that "TV footage appears inconclusive, and Benitez's gesture, delivered with a smile on his face, is ambiguous. There was no evidence to suggest it was even aimed at Allardyce". It also explains Rafa's gesture thus - "Xabi Alonso had ignored Benitez's instructions over the free-kick which led to a goal for Fernando Torres. Alonso whipped it in from the left, contrary to shouts from the bench, and when Torres headed home, Benitez grinned sheepishly and waved his arms as if to say : 'no more advice from me - what do I know?' "

I must confess to being somewhat confused as to how the gesture signalled "game over", I'm sure fergie would think 2-0 up at home that the game was over and therefore interpreted the gesture thus. fergie is up to his usual "mind games", not sure what he hopes to achieve accusing a fellow manager of lacking respect when he has little respect for the sides he starts out with weakened sides against - actions speak louder than words hot air

by **KennyisGod....still** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:30 pm

The most embarressingthing about the game against Blackburn wasn't whether Rafa thort the game was over, nor indeed anythin to do with Rafa, but the fact that after THAT performance Sam Allardyce thinks he and his team could hold their heads up in Premiership company. Their performance las week was dire, regardless of how well we played. Sam's team was humiliated by thermselves, he was made to look a tw@t by his own players efforts not Rafa's hand gestures.

Anyway, the gaffer was rite........... the game was over!!

by **Owzat** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:40 pm

Perhaps fat sam should focus on sensible solutions to his problems, to have no real cover for Santa Cruz and Roberts is poor enough, but to use a CB who used to be a CF is desperation. I'd play Diouf up front, try a Liverpool formation with maybe Dunn and Pedersen playing the Kuyt and Riera roles, and sit with two holding midfielders. Only problem then is who to play in the Gerrard role - Tugay perhaps? Samba as a last ditch effort to retrieve a losing situation may work once in a while, a long-term tactic of merit it is not.

by **joko** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:45 pm

rafa is crazy, he said the game was over
and you know what, the game was later truly over!

by **Number 9** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:59 pm

dawson99 wrote:
supersub wrote:
aCe' wrote:i thought the gesture was immature and disrespectful... but then again.. Benitez does no wrong i guess so all hail the gaffer and move on... Big Sam and Fergie are kunts..etc etc

If I was just an ordinary member I would quite easily tell you to fu.ck off but I can't possibly say that as I'm a moderator and have to show a little decorum.

I'm an ordinary member...

F'uck off ace

Some am I!!
Fu'ck off ace back to your Manc forum! :buttrock

by **joko** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:02 pm

Number 9 wrote:
dawson99 wrote:
supersub wrote:
aCe' wrote:i thought the gesture was immature and disrespectful... but then again.. Benitez does no wrong i guess so all hail the gaffer and move on... Big Sam and Fergie are kunts..etc etc

If I was just an ordinary member I would quite easily tell you to fu.ck off but I can't possibly say that as I'm a moderator and have to show a little decorum.

I'm an ordinary member...

F'uck off ace

Some am I!!
Fu'ck off ace back to your Manc forum!

from china:

ace, YOU -not good :no

by **mighty mo** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:07 pm

the thing is ....fat sam had a fit and healthy benni mcarthy on the bench and played a centre back upfront...........so obvious fast sam wanted to frustrate liverpool "for his friend fergie" by playing literally 10 defenders behind the ball and nicking a 0-0 .........and when torres scroed a sublime goal out of nothing...........the plan backfired

by **Effes** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:15 pm

Ciggy wrote:Atleast this journo is telling it as it is

Scott Murray
Friday 17 April 2009
guardian.co.uk

MISS! MISS! HE DID A FUNNY FACE!!!
If you managed a football team, and they traipsed back into the dressing room after 90 minutes of futile toil during which they didn't get a single kick, losing 4-0, and you'd picked Christopher Samba up front as your lone striker, what would be your overriding emotion? Embarrassment, perhaps? Or the sort of total and utter humiliation that makes a man knock back a litre of Juniper Surprise, then book a Special Calming Treatment at the Eternal Spa? Hmm. But however hard the defeat would hit you, surely your tipping point would have nothing whatsoever to do with a slightly overweight gentleman standing in your approximate environs, crossing and uncrossing his arms. You would surely still retain at least one sliver of dignity and self-respect, a sliver which ensured you'd not be unduly affected by something as trivial as that? Right?

Sadly that's not the case with this poor petal: Blackburn boss Sam Allardyce has admitted today to being on the end of a "humiliating" gesture by Rafael Benitez at Anfield last weekend. When Fernando Torres scored Liverpool's second goal after 33 minutes, Benitez got up off the bench and gesticulated to his team. "It was open arms and then a crossover of the arms," explained Sensitive Sam, before going on to do the hitchhike, the watusi, and the mashed potato. "It was as if to suggest that was it," added Allardyce, who was so offended he voluntarily went to Benitez's office after the game to swill his booze.
But even free pop didn't please Sensitive Sam. Not only was Rafa's Rioja slightly below room temperature, triggering a slightly unpleasant tingle in his teeth, but the Liverpool manager also failed to turn up in person. "Not explaining himself by not turning up in his office really shows what he is like," said Allardyce, who is 54 years of age. "The only people I saw were Sammy Lee and a few of the staff, but he never showed his face. That was just as disappointing as the gesture, and it typifies the man."

In total agreement is Sir Alex Ferguson, who ahead of Manchester United's FA Cup final with Everton, piped up: "Everton are a big club, not a small one which Benitez arrogantly said. But arrogance is one thing. You cannot forgive contempt, which is what he showed Sam Allardyce last weekend." It's very honourable of Fergie to stick up loyally for his pal Sensitive Sam in this spat - although it does seem strange that he did it before Allardyce had actually said anything today. Almost as if they'd decided to launch a pincer movement on Benitez while chatting over the phone last night. Ferguson, incidentally, is 67.

I like.

by **GRAHAM01** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:31 pm

pair of muppets they are old red nose has got a bee in his bonnet because he knows we are coming for his crown

by **lakes10** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:44 pm

yep Rfa was very silly to say the game was over at 2-0, we all know there was 2 more goald coming lol.

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