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redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

Fowler_E7 wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

Sabre wrote:We just gave 8M to Tottenham for nothing !! I'm feeling shame!

Decrease the value? how much? I think it's difficult Keane wouldn't do better the rest of the season than he has done so far.

I'd like to know what Rafa says. I'm shocked. I'd like to have some transparency about whose' responsability is this. I can't simply understand how Rafa told us last week he expected Keane to stay. Either this is a condition coming from above for economic reasons (as Rush stated a bit before), and that would explain why there are not incoming players or no transfers in winter, or this is a shocking decission of Rafa.

If Rafa says tomorrow that it was his decission and Keane wasn't simply needed I'd be shocked.

Agreed mate, their cashing in before they get out.
There is no way Benitez or any other manager for that matter would sell a top player in a possition we are already weak in without bringing some one else in, were fighting on 3 fronts FFS.

If this is Rafa's decision, which i cant see how it can anyone else's then he needs to go and get his head tested tomorrow. I thought we needed another striker when Keane was still here, and now weve sold him and are even worse off upfront! were in deep trouble if Torres cant stay fit, our squad has a shocking lack of quality.

Probably the most disgraceful piece of transfer business done in our history, were quickly becoming a laughing stock as a club

The Red Baron wrote:

GYBS wrote:Has the title been handed out already then ? who won ?

Have a guess, and your clue is It doesnt start and end with L

Greavesie wrote:

GYBS wrote:

Greavesie wrote:I think he may be being sarcastic

i reckon so mate - have you bought a shirt with villa on yet   

in the post now 

excellent mate - im going to get his name on the new away shirt when it comes out 

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

GYBS wrote:

Fowler_E7 wrote:

Rush Job wrote:

Sabre wrote:We just gave 8M to Tottenham for nothing !! I'm feeling shame!

Decrease the value? how much? I think it's difficult Keane wouldn't do better the rest of the season than he has done so far.

I'd like to know what Rafa says. I'm shocked. I'd like to have some transparency about whose' responsability is this. I can't simply understand how Rafa told us last week he expected Keane to stay. Either this is a condition coming from above for economic reasons (as Rush stated a bit before), and that would explain why there are not incoming players or no transfers in winter, or this is a shocking decission of Rafa.

If Rafa says tomorrow that it was his decission and Keane wasn't simply needed I'd be shocked.

Agreed mate, their cashing in before they get out.
There is no way Benitez or any other manager for that matter would sell a top player in a possition we are already weak in without bringing some one else in, were fighting on 3 fronts FFS.

If this is Rafa's decision, which i cant see how it can anyone else's then he needs to go and get his head tested tomorrow. I thought we needed another striker when Keane was still here, and now weve sold him and are even worse off upfront! were in deep trouble if Torres cant stay fit, our squad has a shocking lack of quality.

Probably the most disgraceful piece of transfer business done in our history, were quickly becoming a laughing stock as a club

well if you think thats the most disgraceful bit of transfer then you must of been asleep when players like diouf and diao and cheyrou and babb and stewart and dicks etc etc were bought by the club

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

So when we beat newcastle who did you give credit too ?

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

So when we beat newcastle who did you give credit too ?

both players and manager cause it was an excellent performance and showed the potential we have when things are done right and if we could have spent money more wisely we could have played like this more often, but we dont have enough cover for top players cause resources have been wasted. we lack quality in reserve and when our top players are of key weve nobody to step up to the plate to carry us over the line in games we are dominating. that is down to the manager mate

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

So when we beat newcastle who did you give credit too ?

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

So when we beat newcastle who did you give credit too ?

What?...Like Newcastle offered any competition?

A blind dog and a bag of crisps could have beaten Newcastle that day.

which team is that ? never heard of them . 

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

So when we beat newcastle who did you give credit too ?

both players and manager cause it was an excellent performance and showed the potential we have when things are done right and if we could have spent money more wisely we could have played like this more often, but we dont have enough cover for top players cause resources have been wasted. we lack quality in reserve and when our top players are of key weve nobody to step up to the plate to carry us over the line in games we are dominating. that is down to the manager mate

But in that game rafa dropped keane and played players like babal and lucas and played kuyt up front which is surely everything you have slagged him off for and on that day the players peformed so they both deserve credit ? and when the players dont perform they both should get critisism .

redrover wrote:

Reg wrote:This thread has just become a continuation of the last one, I thought it was supposed to be a tribute thread?

just proves that the other thread hadnt run its course then eh ?

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:

GYBS wrote:

redrover wrote:your right again. it is all rafas fault we're in second place with the points tally we have. we should be in first place with at least 5 more points. i bow to your superior knowledge

when were we last in this situation then exactly ?

why are you so happy to be in second place 2 points behind utd with them having a game in hand when a couple of weeks ago we had a 7 point lead and played against teams we should have beaten and we're in a winni g position in these games only to make a mess of it. you have to take games on their merit. yes we would have taken this situation at the start of the season but we should be in a much stronger position now. thats what im annoyed about.

who says im happy ? im just as disappointed as the next man that we dropped points but im not going around slagging off the manager and blaming him for everything when i knwo the players are just as much at fault

well he picks the team ,makes the substitutions keeps playing kuyt etc so im sorry but the buck stops with him. i honestly cant see why you have so much faith in him i really cant but i would love to be proved wrong  cause i love the club with a passion but dont thinks its being run properly on and off the pitch at the mo and that annoys me so much.

So when we win games does rafa get all the credit then ?

from you yeh. if he plays his best team and gets the right players in their best positions and the right formation then he deserves credit. equally when he doesnt do these things he deserves stick. but you dont keep playing players who are not good enough and buying players who are not good enough and leave yourself with no cover when the inevitable injuries happen, and hes guilty of all these things im afraid

So when we beat newcastle who did you give credit too ?

both players and manager cause it was an excellent performance and showed the potential we have when things are done right and if we could have spent money more wisely we could have played like this more often, but we dont have enough cover for top players cause resources have been wasted. we lack quality in reserve and when our top players are of key weve nobody to step up to the plate to carry us over the line in games we are dominating. that is down to the manager mate

But in that game rafa dropped keane and played players like babal and lucas and played kuyt up front which is surely everything you have slagged him off for and on that day the players peformed so they both deserve credit ? and when the players dont perform they both should get critisism .

no argument there mate but the resources being wasted bad substitutions and the persisting with kuyt week in week out and never taking him of no matter how bad hes playing defies logic. just because you can point to a good result with these players being on the pitch doesnt jusify their continued selection. it was a shockingly bad newcastle team remember

supersub wrote:

redrover wrote:

Reg wrote:This thread has just become a continuation of the last one, I thought it was supposed to be a tribute thread?

just proves that the other thread hadnt run its course then eh ?

proves some people think one misfit is bigger than the club they claim to support.