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by **Ciggy** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:49 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:Liverpool's Keane on brink of £15M Tottenham return

by **Owzat** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:37 am

31h 23m hours and counting until the deadline

Maybe swap him for Bent who can't score chances Mrs Redknapp would apparently

by **Homebooby** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:59 am

I just wonder in all of this if we are seeing a manager who actually knows how to handle things better than a lot of people here give him credit for. Time will tell of course within the next 48 hours we'll know for sure, but the following bothers me about the rumour that Robbie will be sold:

1. We have no viable alternative in at this moment.

2. Rafa has talked often about his dislike for last minute transfers and the need to strike early in the transfer window to get his man.

3. Rafa has continually said that he doesn't really like the Jan window as you tend to pay over the odds and that he didn't see any real need to go looking at the moment.

4. Following on from that, we'll probably lose money on the deal if he did go back at the moment which doesn't really make sense.

5. Given the rumours etc an enquiry to anyone at this moment about a striker is going to see the asking price go even further above the odds.

Whether Robbie turns into the quality players we're hoping remains to be seen, but noone can deny the success that he had in his chosen position at Spurs and anyone who does is mental in my opnion. Given our current strike force, I think he is clearly the proven number 2 at least in the Premiership, but the guy has hardly had a break or time to settle in.

I don't think that these stories about the club sanctioning the deal are being interpreted correctly. As usual, you can read much into nothing and Rafa could easily be saying that he didn't sanction 20 million as opposed to the signing. I think he wanted him, but not at that price and Parry bolloxsed it up as usual. We have previous experience in that area and I think that is more likely. I would also like to see the conference, or read a transcript first of all before believing that he would actually say that.

With regards to Robbie Keane, I wonder if he is as mentally strong as he makes out he is. Noone can doubt his work rate, but the calm under pressure reassuredness that he was trying to display clearly wasn't an accurate reflection of what he felt when he started scoring a couple of goals. There was a lot of aggression and tension release in his reaction and I think that the guy has been trying too hard perhaps to the detriment of himself and the team. This is something that Stevie was doing at the beginning of Rafas tenure and you saw Rafa handle the whole thing in exactly the same way, to the same complaints from us.

I wonder if the combination of coming to play for his childhood club and not wanting to screw it up coupled with the challenge that is Torres and Gerrard through to the status and adulation to which he was accustomed at Spurs combined with the high profile transfer that occurred last summer all took its' toll, especially as the media has never let up from the moment he started, highlighting every single moment he was not given a full game, subbed or left on a bench.

I wonder if Rafa sees that he is not even in the right mind space at the moment and is thus a risk to the team at this point in time and perhaps even himself. Remember for instance what happened to Gazza when it all got too much for him.

One thing I think about Rafa (and some may disagree) is that he is not a man for snap decisions and knee jerk reactions. He's tried (IMHO) many ways of limiting the exposure of Robbie to the pressures and they currently haven't let up. Perhaps he has just taken him aside for the time being until all the transfer speculation has died down and we'll see him re-introduced.

We never know the real story and how Robbie is reacting. If he is a little unstable at the moment, then Rafa actually has no choice but to exclude him and manage him through the problem.

Last little note, the comments that you continually here Rafa saying in the pressure about him being just another player is again in my opinion Rafas way of downplaying the press and trying to get the story off of him. Problem is that you are in a no win situation there, you don't comment, you want him gone, you comment a little like he has and he isn't a big deal player and he is going, you completely explain and the headlines go crazy.

Time will tell, but my gut feeling tells me he is staying and once things have calmed down.

by **dawson99** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:01 pm

If we sell for 15 million, weve only paid 10 so far right? So we're making 5 million on a guy who basically hasnt done anything in 6 months... not bad business lol

by **lakes10** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:10 pm

dawson99 wrote:If we sell for 15 million, weve only paid 10 so far right? So we're making 5 million on a guy who basically hasnt done anything in 6 months... not bad business lol

if he had been here for a year he would have cost us 20 mil, as it stands right now we still own them 8mil , the rest was to to be paid over the next year.

Very unhappy to see him go, very unhappy that Raffa booted him from the team once he started to get goals and then very unhappy that Rafa said that Keane had to prove himself to get into the team (why should he, the last time he did that Rafa put him on the bench).

by **puroresu** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:29 pm

I have heard Pavlyuchenko could be part of the deal. I dont want him or bent. Pavlyuchenko is nowhere near good enough!!!!

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:12 pm

Redknapp hits back at Rafa

Harry Redknapp has insisted he did nothing wrong by commenting on his admiration for Liverpool striker Robbie Keane.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez stated on Friday that he was not happy with Tottenham following remarks Redknapp had made earlier in the week.

The Spurs boss revealed that he thought Republic of Ireland international Keane was a 'fantastic player'.

Keane left White Hart Lane to join Liverpool last summer but there has been speculation about his future and a possible return to the London club.

Benitez has regularly left Keane out of his starting line-up in recent weeks but Redknapp maintains that he had no intention of unsettling the player with his comments.

Redknapp is adamant that he never expressed an interest in signing Keane and has accused Benitez of overreacting.

"The comments I made, there was absolutely nothing wrong with them," said Redknapp.

"I don't know why the manager of Liverpool gets upset about everything - it is strange.

"I said Robbie is a terrific player and a good lad but he belongs to Liverpool so it's not a possibility.

"It's crazy. I never mentioned I was interested in him. It was never a goer really."

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:13 pm

I just find it strange that Spurs would actually want him just weeks after they bought Defoe. I thought the general consensus was that these 2 can’t play together and clearly neither of them are willing to sit on the bench.

Also, most Spurs fans were pretty upset when he left so I might be a bit tough for him to go back there.

by **tubby** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:23 pm

Spurs to end Keane's Anfield misery - I didn't even sanction the £20m transfer in the first place, admits angry Benitez

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1133129/Spurs-end-Keanes-Anfield-misery--I-didnt-sanction-20m-transfer-place-admits-angry-Benitez.
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I fecking knew it Rafa didnt even want him in the first place. Good news about Rafa being given a decent contract, hopefully he will sign it and hopefully we can look forward to Lennon or someone coming our way.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:26 pm

bavlondon wrote:Spurs to end Keane's Anfield misery - I didn't even sanction the £20m transfer in the first place, admits angry Benitez

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1133129/Spurs-end-Keanes-Anfield-misery--I-didnt-sanction-20m-transfer-place-admits-angry-Benitez.

html]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport....ez.html[/url]

I fecking knew it Rafa didnt even want him in the first place. Good news about Rafa being given a decent contract, hopefully he will sign it and hopefully we can look forward to Lennon or someone coming our way.

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by **Cool Hand Luke** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:29 pm

If Keane really is leaving, realistically how many clubs would be willing to offer us around £15 million for him?

Tottenham– Harry likes him and seems to be on a mission to bring back as many former players as possible. They might be willing to let us have Pavlyuchenko on loan until the end of the season to make up the numbers. But it would be strange if they tried to pair him and Defoe together because it didn’t work when Jol tried it.

Man City – They have money to burn but they have just got Bellamy so it’s probably unlikely.

Sunderland – They always have money to spend and it looks like Cisse won’t be signing for them at the end of the season so they might see Keane as a good partner for Kenwyne Jones.

Portsmouth – They have just received nearly 40 million from incoming transfers and Keane would be a good partner for Crouch.

Newcastle – It seems that Kinnear has been given money to spend. With Owen injured and set to leave at the end of the season he must be looking for replacements.

Blackburn Rovers – If they sell Santa Cruz to Man City for 20 million they may be willing to spend the majority of that money on Keane as a replacement.

by **tubby** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:30 pm

Sorry about that mate im not sure how that happened. Anyway check this link and its on the right panel.

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Liverpool

by **tubby** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:31 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:If Keane really is leaving, realistically how many clubs would be willing to offer us around £15 million for him?

Tottenham– Harry likes him and seems to be on a mission to bring back as many former players as possible. They might be willing to let us have Pavlyuchenko on loan until the end of the season to make up the numbers. But it would be strange if they tried to pair him and Defoe together because it didn’t work when Jol tried it.

Man City – They have money to burn but they have just got Bellamy so it’s probably unlikely.

Sunderland – They always have money to spend and it looks like Cisse won’t be signing for them at the end of the season so they might see Keane as a good partner for Kenwyne Jones.

Portsmouth – They have just received nearly 40 million from incoming transfers and Keane would be a good partner for Crouch.

Newcastle – It seems that Kinnear has been given money to spend. With Owen injured and set to leave at the end of the season he must be looking for replacements.

Blackburn Rovers – If they sell Santa Cruz to Man City for 20 million they may be willing to spend the majority of that money on Keane as a replacement.

I couldnt see Keane wanting to go to any of those clubs except for Spurs and Man City tbh. Feck Pavlyunchenko we should just take someone in exchange maybe Bale, Lennon or even that Dos Santos.

by **Madmax** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:09 pm

Interesting stuff i think it best though for both player and club... so keane not in the squad... seems like his off to spurs..

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:15 pm

whether you think keane was right for us or not he has not deserved to be treated the way he has, if he does go and its looking likely that he will then good luck to him in getting his career back on track.

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