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by **Number 9** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:10 am

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=px1z2LW0Xvs

Park bar! :laugh:

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:16 am

Its been a long while since we have been able to look the mancs in the eye and take the fight to them. Imo I think Rafa believes we can win it and this was a show of STRENGTH, not weakness on his part. I agree that if we crash and burn now it will be thrown back in our faces, but its up to the players now to see that doesn't happen. I am happy with his timing and like everything Rafa does it will have been carefully considered beforehand.

I know I will have a smile on my face when I see my manc mates after what Rafa has said.

(Ciggy @ Jan. 09 2009,23:16)
I believe, now the season starts for us tommorrow, our master has spoken he believeS so should we.

WINE FOR MY MEN, WE RIDE AT DAWN.

ITS ON

Spot on.

by **metalhead** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:17 am

Zidane wrote:Anyway people shouldn't even worry about the war of words or whatever that may or may not go on, we just need to get our results end of, regardless of all this stuff.

Yep.. starting at stoke tomorrow

by **Raffmaker** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:20 am

roberto green wrote:
Raffmaker wrote:
roberto green wrote:
Raffmaker wrote:I saw the whole thing on Sky SPorts news and I was horrified!

why rise to the bait? We are top but a long way to go still!

Fergie, big game time with chelsea and he is nervous!

Despite all of Rafas's pojnts being true, why show it?? IT just just shows we LFC are really bothered BY IT !!

seeing Rafa come out with facts that rafa has rehearsed on his sheet, was little embarrassing and just plays into the hands of the scum.

We are top now, can we stay there! ??

f u c k off nob edd

Your point?

Apart that you are a Juvenile with no Opinion?!

Sad . and now all of your mates know! if you have any.

whatever, your probably another petro or something and you live in Cheshire so your probably a manc.

In answer to your earlier post, Don't you think it is about time someone stood up against the purple nosed ? Benitez has timed it effectively to spur our own players on and it is just good that we are in this situation even in January

I don't want to argue with you pal, we are all Rooting for the same cause.!

Benitez's Rant today will just show the MANCS that we are so hurt and bothered by by his comments, that we need to respond.

Any money, fergie will respond, and wind us up even further.

I aint woried, I know we have the squad to do it this time.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:24 am

Edit your posts before someone gets a card...... it just aint worth it.

by **roberto green** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:28 am

Raffmaker wrote:I aint woried, I know we have the squad to do it this time.

Exactly that's why Rafa isn't bothered, we have been top for a while now and rafa's outburst is timely, and just giving us that extra kick we need, his spanish counterparts will back him and the manc hating players will do too. No need to say there 2 names, they will also be inspired by his words.

by **roberto green** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:33 am

s@int wrote:Edit your posts before someone gets a card...... it just aint worth it.

fair enough mate I have been wound up for the first time on here.

I think the pressure is staring to get to me.

But iv'e kerbed it now.

:cool:

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:49 am

Well the gloves are well and truly off now and its a fight to the finish, will be interesting tomorrow to see if whisky nose takes the bait or plays it down, one things for certain the players also have to step up to the plate tomorrow and get a result at stoke, its all about applying pressure from here on in and a win tomorrow does just that

by **milou** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:06 am

LIVERPOOL BOSS' FURY
Starting a fight in an empty room

By Phil Holland

January 9, 2009

Rafa Benitez has been goaded into a furious reaction after losing his cool and falling into yet another baited trap set by the master of the mind game, Sir Alex Ferguson. Or has he?

That's the obvious reaction to the Liverpool manager's fascinating outburst against his Manchester United counterpart. But surely to fall into a trap, one first has to be set, and as Benitez himself said, it seems a little early in the season for Fergie to fire the opening salvo in his traditional psychological war.

The spark that ignited Benitez's tirade was Ferguson's claims of last week that the Premier League's fixtures are designed to scupper United. Does anyone actually believe that, even for a second?

Rather than his usual barbed criticism or loaded comment, Ferguson's rant bore all the hallmarks of a slightly tired and paranoid character venting frustration against the club's choc-a-bloc calendar, itself a trapping of the club's continued success.

Would the Premier League really manipulate the fixture list to undermine their most prized asset? Remember the league's job is to work on the clubs' behalf not against them, and United are the league's biggest cash cow; to undermine them would be to undermine the league.

No, Ferguson didn't set a trap for Benitez, rather Benitez seems to have started a fight in an empty room - a talent Fergie once claimed belonged to Denis Wise.

Unlike Kevin Keegan's infamous 'I would love it if they beat them, love it' when one could envisage Ferguson stretching back on the sofa and taking a sip from celebratory glass of red after a job well done, in this case Ferguson's private reaction is more likely to be one of incredulity followed by mild amusement.

The most extraordinary part of Benitez's tirade was its premeditated nature. Sat in his weekly pre-match press conference, the Spaniard read from a prepared sheet on which were detailed myriad charges and claims against Ferguson.

At first when Benitez looked to his script there appeared to be a stifled grin on his face, as if he knew what he was saying would have repercussions, but as the speech continued so Benitez revealed what appeared to be a genuine antipathy towards Ferguson.

The starting point for Benitez's outburst was Ferguson's claim over a fixtures conspiracy, something Benitez refuted by suggesting that in fact Liverpool suffered more than United.

There then followed a list of charges and occasions when Ferguson has flouted the new Respect agenda and received no punishment for personally criticising referees and allowing his players and staff to harangue officials during games.

It was remarkable stuff, but if one accepts that Ferguson never set a trap to snare Benitez in the first place, the mystery remains as to why has the Spaniard had his say now?

It could be that he is employing a double bluff and is actually trying to goad Fergie. Or it could be that after five years of quiet seething Rafa has let his guard down and revealed just how infuriating he finds Fergie's approach to the game.

Perhaps it is a little of both, with the added objective of taking attention away from his own squad as their title credentials come under close scrutiny with an added benefit of adding a little pressure to Ferguson's own charges while issuing a marker to Premier League referees.

What we know for certain is that what Benitez said and the manner of it was remarkable, and that the reaction, or lack thereof, from Ferguson will be equally fascinating.

by **Madmax** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:50 am

After rafa's show which deserves and oscar i have to admit we must win the title now otherwise we will have to face the shyte from mannure fans. Just hope we do. Faith is the key!

by **destro** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:27 am

I have just caught the end of this on Sky, I was actually shocked to see him react in such a way, it was totally out of character

I am not saying he was right or wrong to say what he did, everyone has thought the same for a long time and not spoken out about it so maybe it needed to be said.

I just don't want this to be back page news for the rest of the season now with both parties firing comments across at each other through the media. I would rather we kept quiet and just got in with the job in hand, lifting that League Trophy would have been all the talking we needed to do.

There is a lot being made of Raffas reaction but I do not agree he was "Furious" he spoke well and kept his cool and even managed a wry smile now and again but again did it really need to be said now, he has obviously gone to a lot of trouble to gather the facts so one could argue that Ferguson has hit a nerve, on the other hand how many times does Ferguson do this to get under the skin of other teams challenging for the League, we should have known it was coming and just ignored it.

It looks like I am contradicting myself a lot in this post

but I am really not sure what to make of it all, I agree with what he said I just don't agree with the timing and whether he should have said it at all.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:24 am

ha Ha Graham Poll has backed Rafa 100% and said he is correct

by **ConnO'var** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:31 am

Ciggy wrote:ha Ha Graham Poll has backed Rafa 100% and said he is correct

Do you have link, ciggy?

Googled it but couldn't find it. would be interesting to read his comments.

by **Ciggy** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:48 am

ConnO'var wrote:
Ciggy wrote:ha Ha Graham Poll has backed Rafa 100% and said he is correct

Do you have link, ciggy?

Googled it but couldn't find it. would be interesting to read his comments.

He was on SSN.

by **ConnO'var** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:54 am

Ciggy wrote:
ConnO'var wrote:
Ciggy wrote:ha Ha Graham Poll has backed Rafa 100% and said he is correct

Do you have link, ciggy?

Googled it but couldn't find it. would be interesting to read his comments.

He was on SSN.

Cheers mate!

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