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Postby Rorschach26 » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:24 pm

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GYBS wrote:and you could say the same with some of yossis goals and kuyts goals that we woldnt be sitting at the top of the table hence why they have all contributed towards where we are - no more or less than each other

Im not talking about goals,im talking about overall contribution to the team!
And Rieras has been a hell of a lot more than any of those you mentioned.Im not saying they have not contributed,they have but Riera has been more of a factor in our success so far than any of them.If you cant see that from watching football...give up!

You always do this with other posters,type balls then when your told your wrong you go onto other things.WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOALS HERE OK,it cracks me up reading it and now im sorry I mentioned anything!lol
LISTEN FELLA
You said this
"reira has contributed no more or less than lucas or kuyt or yossi this season which is exactly what i was saying"
Thats the bit i picked up on,the reason being its absolute sh'ite.You cant argue that because everyone knows its balls!

Sometimes its just best to say OK rather than argue when you are wrong! :D

unfortunately m8 some people only see stats, goals/assists etc

like i always say its the same people who thought Lampard was a better player then gerrard when he use 2 score more
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Postby Scottbot » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:00 am

GYBS wrote:yeah reira is a decent player but he is no better than kuyt or yossi and in terms of talent lucas

Open your eyes Gybs, Riera is a better player than all three of them. If you had a team with all four players in, who would you miss the most if you removed them from the side? I'd be very surprised if you said Yossi, Lucas or Kuyt. Despite his little purple patch earlier in the season, Kuyt doesn't give you a great deal more than his simple team play and (admittedly) ridiculously high work-rate. Yossi is finding some form since he has been given a run of games but he runs hot and cold and struggles to really influence a game and Lucas (despite some solid displays of late) still remains our 4th choice centre-mid. Riera's impact on the side is far greater for me, he brings a lot of balance to the team, he ALWAYS shows feet which means he is always involved, he wins a lot of fouls, his passing his very good, he can head the ball, he can beat a man and he is a VERY intelligent player. He's more important to us than the other three players, I don't know how anyone can say differently.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:15 am

yet the cup game he gave away the ball a bloody lot and was tackled very easily on a number of occasions with the ball taken off him plus he hasnt put two good halves together and has faded very quickly in games and been non exsitant in plenty of others . Also the cup game showed us we missed kuyts workrate and energy as someone has suggested already . Yeah reira has done well for us this season but not outstanding . Has contributed and given us balance but hoping he can give us more , including better crossing and passing and more crucial final balls .
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Postby Simari » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:07 am

Oh he's provided more crucial final balls ...

It's just we've have Keane at the end of a lot of those, and Keane is very short on confidence.

Look back at the games and see for yourself mate.
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Postby Fo Dne » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:17 am

GYBS wrote:yet the cup game he gave away the ball a bloody lot and was tackled very easily on a number of occasions with the ball taken off him plus he hasnt put two good halves together and has faded very quickly in games and been non exsitant in plenty of others . Also the cup game showed us we missed kuyts workrate and energy as someone has suggested already . Yeah reira has done well for us this season but not outstanding . Has contributed and given us balance but hoping he can give us more , including better crossing and passing and more crucial final balls .

:laugh:

Kuyt is rubbish lad.

Absoloutely rubbish and you're comparing him to a class act like Riera?

Shut up. :laugh:
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:24 am

my opinion and pretty happy with it . If you dont like it then oh well tough shi t deal with , you stick to thinking players like cheyrou are class . That worked out well for us didnt it . Showed your skill off rating players there didnt you stu . And simari seen plenty of the games and still think the same . The guy is a decent player for us and done well at times but still got a way to go yet . Still would of prefered someone better out there but he is doing a decent good job for us .
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Postby Fo Dne » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:34 am

GYBS wrote:my opinion and pretty happy with it . If you dont like it then oh well tough shi t deal with , you stick to thinking players like cheyrou are class . That worked out well for us didnt it . Showed your skill off rating players there didnt you stu . And simari seen plenty of the games and still think the same . The guy is a decent player for us and done well at times but still got a way to go yet . Still would of prefered someone better out there but he is doing a decent good job for us .

Well yer opinions wrong. :laugh:
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Postby babu » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:53 am

exhibit A - the art of debate as demonstrated by Stu

Well yer opinions wrong. :laugh:


:D


effective if you ask me.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:10 am

thanks for your expert analysis and thoughts stu , it means so much that someone so knowledgable as yourself thinks along those lines , god help the day when you actually understand that other people are allowed to have a different opinion to yourself and that their opinion may actually be valid and right , but think hell may freeze over before that happens .
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Postby tonyeh » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:08 am

GYBS wrote:Yet has contributed less goals from wide than kuyt and assists and think around the same as yossi - yeah reira is a decent player but he is no better than kuyt or yossi and in terms of talent lucas - they are all players on the same level for us and there is nothing wrong with that .

GYBS, if you honestly believe this, then I have serious doubts that you have even been watching the games.

To suggest that Albert Riera has a. contributed the same as Kuyt in the wide area and b. is no more talented than Kuyt et al is blind beyond all reason.

Every game that Riera plays (even on his off days), he proves quite clearly that he is head and shoulders above Kuyt, Yossi and Lucas. Granted, the latter players of that three have had limited time on the pitch, but even at that, it's clear that Riera's efforts on liverpool's Left flank has given the team a whole new branch of attack, that was quite simply missing for a very long time.

Albert Riera has single-handedly widened Liverpool's game. Before that, everything was down the middle of the pitch, as Kuyt and Babel are terrible on the flank positions.

Kuyt may have a couple more goals (not to sure about assists), but this could be due to the fact that the dutchman remains on the pitch for 90 mins and Reira routinely gets subbed for Babel due to Rafa's idiotic subbing policy. Riera's goals have been far more impressive though and overall, he possess are much better shot that Dirk. But at the end of the day, it's not just about goals. Wide players tend not to get a hell of a lot of goals, Joe Cole and Ronaldo notwithstanding.

The bottom line is this, when Kuyt, Yossi and Lucas don't play, Liverpool don't miss them too much. When Riera is gone from the Left flank, he is sorely missed.

I'd wager that 90% of Liverpool fans would rather see Bennayoon, lucas and kuyt gone from the side before Reira any day of the week.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is flawed.
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Postby Fo Dne » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:21 pm

GYBS wrote:thanks for your expert analysis and thoughts stu , it means so much that someone so knowledgable as yourself thinks along those lines , god help the day when you actually understand that other people are allowed to have a different opinion to yourself and that their opinion may actually be valid and right , but think hell may freeze over before that happens .

Different people can have many different opinions to me and I'm perfectly fine with it. Infact it makes quite interesting debate more often than not.

What annoys me is when idiots talk rubbish about things they know nothing about, arse lick and look through rose tinted specticles and state things like "in their opinion a square has 5 sides". It doesn't and it never will. You're perfectly entitled to have that opinion, you will however recieve stick for it as its nonsense, much like everything you post (as everyone seems to be telling you).
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:43 pm

tonyeh wrote:
GYBS wrote:Yet has contributed less goals from wide than kuyt and assists and think around the same as yossi - yeah reira is a decent player but he is no better than kuyt or yossi and in terms of talent lucas - they are all players on the same level for us and there is nothing wrong with that .

GYBS, if you honestly believe this, then I have serious doubts that you have even been watching the games.

To suggest that Albert Riera has a. contributed the same as Kuyt in the wide area and b. is no more talented than Kuyt et al is blind beyond all reason.

Every game that Riera plays (even on his off days), he proves quite clearly that he is head and shoulders above Kuyt, Yossi and Lucas. Granted, the latter players of that three have had limited time on the pitch, but even at that, it's clear that Riera's efforts on liverpool's Left flank has given the team a whole new branch of attack, that was quite simply missing for a very long time.

Albert Riera has single-handedly widened Liverpool's game. Before that, everything was down the middle of the pitch, as Kuyt and Babel are terrible on the flank positions.

Kuyt may have a couple more goals (not to sure about assists), but this could be due to the fact that the dutchman remains on the pitch for 90 mins and Reira routinely gets subbed for Babel due to Rafa's idiotic subbing policy. Riera's goals have been far more impressive though and overall, he possess are much better shot that Dirk. But at the end of the day, it's not just about goals. Wide players tend not to get a hell of a lot of goals, Joe Cole and Ronaldo notwithstanding.

The bottom line is this, when Kuyt, Yossi and Lucas don't play, Liverpool don't miss them too much. When Riera is gone from the Left flank, he is sorely missed.

I'd wager that 90% of Liverpool fans would rather see Bennayoon, lucas and kuyt gone from the side before Reira any day of the week.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is flawed.

Well there is a number of people around me when watching the game who think the same and think his impact while very good and decent has been well over blown at certain stages - yes he has given us width and balance to the team but the guy has seriously faded many times in games , has been seriously missing in a various amount of games , has been easily marked out of the game in others . He is a decent left mid who is doing a decent to very good job for us just like others are and is in that list of very good/decent squad players . For instance i would still take a fully fit and firing kewell over him . And if you think we miss Kuyt when he isnt playing then re watch the Preston game - we missed his work rate and closing down and energy in the second half when we lost Xabi.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:14 pm

Fo Dne wrote:
GYBS wrote:thanks for your expert analysis and thoughts stu , it means so much that someone so knowledgable as yourself thinks along those lines , god help the day when you actually understand that other people are allowed to have a different opinion to yourself and that their opinion may actually be valid and right , but think hell may freeze over before that happens .

Different people can have many different opinions to me and I'm perfectly fine with it. Infact it makes quite interesting debate more often than not.

What annoys me is when idiots talk rubbish about things they know nothing about, arse lick and look through rose tinted specticles and state things like "in their opinion a square has 5 sides". It doesn't and it never will. You're perfectly entitled to have that opinion, you will however recieve stick for it as its nonsense, much like everything you post (as everyone seems to be telling you).

Your squares have 5 sides !!! weird , you should of listened more at school i think .
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Postby Toffeehater » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:44 pm

tonyeh wrote:
GYBS wrote:Yet has contributed less goals from wide than kuyt and assists and think around the same as yossi - yeah reira is a decent player but he is no better than kuyt or yossi and in terms of talent lucas - they are all players on the same level for us and there is nothing wrong with that .

GYBS, if you honestly believe this, then I have serious doubts that you have even been watching the games.

To suggest that Albert Riera has a. contributed the same as Kuyt in the wide area and b. is no more talented than Kuyt et al is blind beyond all reason.

Every game that Riera plays (even on his off days), he proves quite clearly that he is head and shoulders above Kuyt, Yossi and Lucas. Granted, the latter players of that three have had limited time on the pitch, but even at that, it's clear that Riera's efforts on liverpool's Left flank has given the team a whole new branch of attack, that was quite simply missing for a very long time.

Albert Riera has single-handedly widened Liverpool's game. Before that, everything was down the middle of the pitch, as Kuyt and Babel are terrible on the flank positions.

Kuyt may have a couple more goals (not to sure about assists), but this could be due to the fact that the dutchman remains on the pitch for 90 mins and Reira routinely gets subbed for Babel due to Rafa's idiotic subbing policy. Riera's goals have been far more impressive though and overall, he possess are much better shot that Dirk. But at the end of the day, it's not just about goals. Wide players tend not to get a hell of a lot of goals, Joe Cole and Ronaldo notwithstanding.

The bottom line is this, when Kuyt, Yossi and Lucas don't play, Liverpool don't miss them too much. When Riera is gone from the Left flank, he is sorely missed.

I'd wager that 90% of Liverpool fans would rather see Bennayoon, lucas and kuyt gone from the side before Reira any day of the week.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is flawed.

Good post mate , agree with most of it . Riera has given us something that we have lacked for so long and now that we have a player like him , we can see the difference that he has made to the side . If he can get 10 goals a season as a winger i won't have any complaints .

As for Kuyt , he's a good player but he is limited at times , he does not have the dribbling talent that riera possess but there's one thing he does offer is work rate which  have contributed to our league position as well , this season he has 7 goals already and most of them playing on the right . For me kuyt is very underrated on here whenever results don't go our way ,he's always the first player to get the stick on here . The lad deserves more credit
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Postby Number 9 » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:16 pm

You gotta admire GYBS,he's like a pitbull!No matter how wrong he just wont let it go! :D
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