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by **GYBS** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:15 pm

Bam wrote:
GYBS wrote:They all took a while to get going with their new clubs mate

Blue Peter badge for GYBS.

get in there always wanted one of them

by **Judge** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:42 pm

BrownBomber wrote:
Simari wrote:
BrownBomber wrote:As soon as you mention the word business in your first line, all your credibility shoots out the window my friend...........

Football aint no business and you are no football man - you are a disgrace to the club.

Bottom line - I honestly can't believe you come on to a Liverpool website and talk about spreadsheets, you understand nothing about the game or it's origins.

I'll be happy to trade on football matters tomorrow.
(Trying not to get agressive with keyboard muppets.)

Talk football matters, if you want to .... but --- if you haven't realised the part that money plays in the modern game, then it would be difficult having a debate with you.

However, you are bang out of order coming to this website and questioning the loyalty of other fans. If anything, you my friend have lost all credibility.

Out of Order - Take your time son.

I might have gone OTT last night but football is a passionate game, Keane is going to come good - all this talk of him being an asset is all well and good, football people don't talk like that.

Keano will be well up before long and the businessmen of this world will be talking about what a pricelss commodity he is.

Carry on - the march onwards is all that matters and Keane will play a big part.

is your username named after a famous boxer, or do you have an alternate reason for it

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:57 pm

s@int wrote:
Bam wrote:
Scottbot wrote:Does anyone else think this disclaimer thing has got a little bit out of hand? You can't read a post now without the small print at the bottom.

Not really so pedantic and petty this place has become. Its full of people twisting you're words and paraphrasing things you've said taking things out of context.

So instead of having to explain you're original post a Disclaimer is the ideal thing to prevent wasting you're time with ..... Wasters.

Try not to let it bother you eh.

Spot on Bam, which is one of the reasons why I don't bother posting as much.

keep posting mate.

by **Simari** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:22 am

BrownBomber wrote:
Simari wrote:
BrownBomber wrote:As soon as you mention the word business in your first line, all your credibility shoots out the window my friend...........

Football aint no business and you are no football man - you are a disgrace to the club.

Bottom line - I honestly can't believe you come on to a Liverpool website and talk about spreadsheets, you understand nothing about the game or it's origins.

I'll be happy to trade on football matters tomorrow.
(Trying not to get agressive with keyboard muppets.)

Talk football matters, if you want to .... but --- if you haven't realised the part that money plays in the modern game, then it would be difficult having a debate with you.

However, you are bang out of order coming to this website and questioning the loyalty of other fans. If anything, you my friend have lost all credibility.

Out of Order - Take your time son.

I might have gone OTT last night but football is a passionate game, Keane is going to come good - all this talk of him being an asset is all well and good, football people don't talk like that.

Keano will be well up before long and the businessmen of this world will be talking about what a pricelss commodity he is.

Carry on - the march onwards is all that matters and Keane will play a big part.

Do yourself a favor and read up a few posts before the last one. You might just read what I feel about Keane.

For the record, I am not disputing that he has the qualities ... just that he isn't delivering at the moment, and while he doesn't deliver ... you cannot question Rafa's decision to bring him off.

When he starts delivering consistently, and I do believe he will ... he will have nothing to be frustrated about.

The only person who can sort out the situation that he is in, is Robbie Keane.

Get a grip SON .... you're not that old ...

by **rushy09999** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:42 pm

BrownBomber wrote:
puroresu wrote:Emile Heskey is not the answer. Surely we need to sign better players than him.

We are struggling for cash, he is a worthwhile purchase for the moment.

emile would be a lot better suited to our kick and rush style than robbie is

by **BrownBomber** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:23 pm

Judge wrote:

is your username named after a famous boxer, or do you have an alternate reason for it

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Yeah massive boxing fan fella, and certainly aint a sausage jockey, are you? :laugh:

by **BrownBomber** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:31 pm

Simari wrote:

Do yourself a favor and read up a few posts before the last one. You might just read what I feel about Keane.

For the record, I am not disputing that he has the qualities ... just that he isn't delivering at the moment, and while he doesn't deliver ... you cannot question Rafa's decision to bring him off.

When he starts delivering consistently, and I do believe he will ... he will have nothing to be frustrated about.

The only person who can sort out the situation that he is in, is Robbie Keane.

Get a grip SON .... you're not that old ...

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Fair enough, it's not personal, it's strictly business.

If we had someone decent enough to replace Keane, I wouldn't mind but I would rather let keep him on even out of form because he is more likely to bury that one chance than N'Gog or Kuyt will ever be.

Admittedly I didn't read your thoughts on Keane as a player beforehand, it does put you off when you see a silly amount of pages, it would take hours to read every thread on here.

At the end of the day all we want or care about is to see Keane discover his form and to start scoring regularly, it is only a matter of time.

by **didihamman2005** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:02 pm

A player like Keane needs quality service into feet for him to get going which he is not getting,but as his confidence dips he drops deeper and deeper into the middle of the park,trying to gather the ball he is out of position,one up front with a two man holding midfield will never utilise keane's skills and Rafa doesnt appear to be very flexible in his formation,and unless he stays in position with a strike partner and quality service from the flanks,i fear that Keane will bear the brunt of the criticism that should be spread more evenly throughout the whole team.

by **Redman in wales** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:29 pm

Alan Hansons view:

"Keane was left frustrated after Benitez did not call on him when he was looking for a goal against Hull as Liverpool dropped two points in a 2-2 draw.

But my view is that Liverpool will not sell him and Keane will not want to go. He is a player of great ability and this situation is not irretrievable - he can get himself going again with just one goal.

When you are a quality player, which he is, things can change in the blink of an eye, sometimes even with a lucky goal.

It was a surprise he was left out on Saturday after playing so well against PSV Eindhoven in the Champions League, and an even bigger one when he never even got on as substitute.

When you looked a Liverpool's substitutes, he was the one you would have thought gave them the best chance of getting a winning goal.

I do not think his general performances have been bad, and although he has not been scoring goals, he can still create and all Liverpool needed was one bit of magic against Hull.

I also think he has been played in a position which has been slightly alien to him since he came to Liverpool, being used as an out-and-out strike partner for Fernando Torres when the Spaniard was fit.

This is not Keane. He plays one off the front man, deeper but a touch further forward than Kenny Dalglish played with Ian Rush and Peter Beardsley with Gary Lineker.

I still think there is a very good chance of Keane coming good at Liverpool. He is a tremendous player and let us just assess where Liverpool are currently.

Keane has played a lot of games and they stand top of the Premier League and have comfortably reached the last 16 of the Champions League.

When it was pointed out to Benitez that he had substituted Keane 15 times, he responded that he had also played him 18 times. A good answer and confirmation that he has played a significant part since arriving from Spurs.

Robbie's work-rate is always phenomenal and he has ability on the ball, so no-one can tell me this is a lost cause.

I do not know Keane personally, but my guess is that he has no intention of walking away from Liverpool.

He has signed for the club he has supported all of his life and has cost £20m, so he will not want to leave six months down the line.

Keane looks like the sort of character who will want to prove his doubters wrong, and there is still plenty of time for him to do that this season."

by **redsince2001** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:33 pm

he needs to be playing more ...
just like kuyt last season ...
he WILL come good .

by **Almighty Red** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:43 pm

Alan Hansen's thoughts on Keane: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/7783809.stm

I hope he's right...

by **Alex G.** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:11 pm

Redman in wales wrote:When you looked a Liverpool's substitutes, he was the one you would have thought gave them the best chance of getting a winning goal.

Why?? He only scored 4 goals in 27 matches.

I also think he has been played in a position which has been slightly alien to him since he came to Liverpool, being used as an out-and-out strike partner for Fernando Torres when the Spaniard was fit.

This is not Keane. He plays one off the front man, deeper but a touch further forward than Kenny Dalglish played with Ian Rush and Peter Beardsley with Gary Lineker.

Probably Keane has not played frequently on his position, but that´s not excuse to miss 40 hand to hand with the goalkeepers even my grandmother would have scored. He exhausted Rafa´s patience.

by **we all dream...** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:12 pm

Stop bloody moaning

by **Alex G.** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:19 pm

redsince2001 wrote:he needs to be playing more ...
just like kuyt last season ...
he WILL come good .

Kuyt is still a disgrace playing like striker, the same misses, the same horrible ball controlls ect.. but (and this is credit for rafa) he found on the right wing the position where he produces really well. That´s the key of kuyt this season.

by **Novo** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:45 pm

At the beginning, i think his problem as confidence...scored against WBA, and i said the problem has solved...not.

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