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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:56 pm

Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.
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Postby aCe' » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:09 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

Absolutely Unacceptable if you ask me ! We are trying to win the league not run a youth development centre! All the players you mentioned quite simply arent good enough to come on and make an impact or even hold their grounds against stronger opposition. If we sell all the players you mentioned and depend on the youngsters for backup then we better pray long and hard that our starting 11 dont get scratched week in week out.
AGAIN
Our problem is not that we dont have good enough backup for our brilliant first 11, our problem is that we dont have a strong enough starting 11 to be winning the league !
Think of it this way: can you think of any player in our squad who would get in the ManUtd starting 11 besides Gerrard and Torres ? If you do then i guess theres no point arguing with you.
Now do it again with the Chelsea starting 11 !
There yyou have it, why we are 3rd at best.
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Sorry forgot about Arsenal:
Reina would make it but thats still 3Liverpool players and 8Arsenal.. go figure
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Postby John Kegs » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:14 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

8mil for voronin, you crazy fool
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:50 pm

aCe' wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

Absolutely Unacceptable if you ask me ! We are trying to win the league not run a youth development centre! All the players you mentioned quite simply arent good enough to come on and make an impact or even hold their grounds against stronger opposition. If we sell all the players you mentioned and depend on the youngsters for backup then we better pray long and hard that our starting 11 dont get scratched week in week out.
AGAIN
Our problem is not that we dont have good enough backup for our brilliant first 11, our problem is that we dont have a strong enough starting 11 to be winning the league !
Think of it this way: can you think of any player in our squad who would get in the ManUtd starting 11 besides Gerrard and Torres ? If you do then i guess theres no point arguing with you.
Now do it again with the Chelsea starting 11 !
There yyou have it, why we are 3rd at best.
--------

Sorry forgot about Arsenal:
Reina would make it but thats still 3Liverpool players and 8Arsenal.. go figure

There's always a reason why we need to sell these players ; Kuyt : Very hard working player but no good as a striker or as a RW.

AV : Intelligent player but I don't see he can score more than 10 goals per season.

Hypia : Good loyal Servant but Too old as goes to Finnan.

Futhermore if we manage to sell these players , we can buy good players esp in attacking midfield. Look at Man :censored:, they got Rooney, Ronado, Nani, Anderson and Tevez , if one of them don't play well , the other four can do the job.

Look at us , we only got torres and SG, that's all . It's about time to sell and buy ( at least 2 ) good attacking midfield (sorry no english as good as them ) like Silva ( I hope we can get him ), Quaresma, Franck Ribery, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Joaquín, Vicente and many more.

If we can get at least 2 or more of that players, we will give them a "hell"
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:52 pm

John Kegs wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

8mil for voronin, you crazy fool

as long we can sell ( maybe 5M to 8M ) him and use that money to buy good players , I'm happy .
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Postby aCe' » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:29 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
aCe' wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

Absolutely Unacceptable if you ask me ! We are trying to win the league not run a youth development centre! All the players you mentioned quite simply arent good enough to come on and make an impact or even hold their grounds against stronger opposition. If we sell all the players you mentioned and depend on the youngsters for backup then we better pray long and hard that our starting 11 dont get scratched week in week out.
AGAIN
Our problem is not that we dont have good enough backup for our brilliant first 11, our problem is that we dont have a strong enough starting 11 to be winning the league !
Think of it this way: can you think of any player in our squad who would get in the ManUtd starting 11 besides Gerrard and Torres ? If you do then i guess theres no point arguing with you.
Now do it again with the Chelsea starting 11 !
There yyou have it, why we are 3rd at best.
--------

Sorry forgot about Arsenal:
Reina would make it but thats still 3Liverpool players and 8Arsenal.. go figure

There's always a reason why we need to sell these players ; Kuyt : Very hard working player but no good as a striker or as a RW.

AV : Intelligent player but I don't see he can score more than 10 goals per season.

Hypia : Good loyal Servant but Too old as goes to Finnan.

Futhermore if we manage to sell these players , we can buy good players esp in attacking midfield. Look at Man :censored:, they got Rooney, Ronado, Nani, Anderson and Tevez , if one of them don't play well , the other four can do the job.

Look at us , we only got torres and SG, that's all . It's about time to sell and buy ( at least 2 ) good attacking midfield (sorry no english as good as them ) like Silva ( I hope we can get him ), Quaresma, Franck Ribery, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Joaquín, Vicente and many more.

If we can get at least 2 or more of that players, we will give them a "hell"

in that case hell yea; sell everyone in that squad if we get better replacemenets for all i care ! Keep Torres and Gerrard and sell everyone else.
Hey if Voronin is 8mill im sure we can get a nice few billion on the rest and then go on to buy the best of the best.
On a more serious note, I think its a little too late to be conducting such mass changes in the transfer market this year (maybe Jan but still could be too risky). Finnan and Hyypia should stay till the end of this year, at least. As for voronin he can move to any club for free and id think we'd have conducted great business. Kuyt is a good squad player but if he can be sold for a reasonable amount (8mill or more) while being replaced with someone better then I wouldnt care much about him leaving.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:34 pm

aCe' wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
aCe' wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

Absolutely Unacceptable if you ask me ! We are trying to win the league not run a youth development centre! All the players you mentioned quite simply arent good enough to come on and make an impact or even hold their grounds against stronger opposition. If we sell all the players you mentioned and depend on the youngsters for backup then we better pray long and hard that our starting 11 dont get scratched week in week out.
AGAIN
Our problem is not that we dont have good enough backup for our brilliant first 11, our problem is that we dont have a strong enough starting 11 to be winning the league !
Think of it this way: can you think of any player in our squad who would get in the ManUtd starting 11 besides Gerrard and Torres ? If you do then i guess theres no point arguing with you.
Now do it again with the Chelsea starting 11 !
There yyou have it, why we are 3rd at best.
--------

Sorry forgot about Arsenal:
Reina would make it but thats still 3Liverpool players and 8Arsenal.. go figure

There's always a reason why we need to sell these players ; Kuyt : Very hard working player but no good as a striker or as a RW.

AV : Intelligent player but I don't see he can score more than 10 goals per season.

Hypia : Good loyal Servant but Too old as goes to Finnan.

Futhermore if we manage to sell these players , we can buy good players esp in attacking midfield. Look at Man :censored:, they got Rooney, Ronado, Nani, Anderson and Tevez , if one of them don't play well , the other four can do the job.

Look at us , we only got torres and SG, that's all . It's about time to sell and buy ( at least 2 ) good attacking midfield (sorry no english as good as them ) like Silva ( I hope we can get him ), Quaresma, Franck Ribery, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Joaquín, Vicente and many more.

If we can get at least 2 or more of that players, we will give them a "hell"

in that case hell yea; sell everyone in that squad if we get better replacemenets for all i care ! Keep Torres and Gerrard and sell everyone else.
Hey if Voronin is 8mill im sure we can get a nice few billion on the rest and then go on to buy the best of the best.
On a more serious note, I think its a little too late to be conducting such mass changes in the transfer market this year (maybe Jan but still could be too risky). Finnan and Hyypia should stay till the end of this year, at least. As for voronin he can move to any club for free and id think we'd have conducted great business. Kuyt is a good squad player but if he can be sold for a reasonable amount (8mill or more) while being replaced with someone better then I wouldnt care much about him leaving.

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Postby aCe' » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:37 pm

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
aCe' wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
aCe' wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Owzat wrote:
LiverpoolMadman wrote:Sorry to kuyt if that's happen but it's about time to sell him and AV and the money will help us to buy good attacking midfield. ( NOT GB )

Ngog and Krisztian Nemeth should in the sub every match

Depends what they offer for either, but Kuyt is more valuable as a squad player unless we get £7m+ for him. Voronin may not get much chance and bids may not be too high.

The german peasant  :D should be sold off first, especially if/as he's behind Kuyt in the pecking order for RW.

Good time to point out that I didn't mention Kuyt to start the old debate about whether he's good enough etc, so perhaps we could stick to the game and not "is he good enough?" or other transfer issues. That said at least one of N'Gog and Nemeth should be on the bench, maybe two from them two and Keane

I think this season some of players should be sell off like Kuyt = 10M, AV = 8M , Hypia = 2.5M and Finnan = 2M . because if we sell these players , we "make space" to our young players like Ngog, Krisztian Nemeth, Jack Hobbs and STEPHEN DARBY.

Absolutely Unacceptable if you ask me ! We are trying to win the league not run a youth development centre! All the players you mentioned quite simply arent good enough to come on and make an impact or even hold their grounds against stronger opposition. If we sell all the players you mentioned and depend on the youngsters for backup then we better pray long and hard that our starting 11 dont get scratched week in week out.
AGAIN
Our problem is not that we dont have good enough backup for our brilliant first 11, our problem is that we dont have a strong enough starting 11 to be winning the league !
Think of it this way: can you think of any player in our squad who would get in the ManUtd starting 11 besides Gerrard and Torres ? If you do then i guess theres no point arguing with you.
Now do it again with the Chelsea starting 11 !
There yyou have it, why we are 3rd at best.
--------

Sorry forgot about Arsenal:
Reina would make it but thats still 3Liverpool players and 8Arsenal.. go figure

There's always a reason why we need to sell these players ; Kuyt : Very hard working player but no good as a striker or as a RW.

AV : Intelligent player but I don't see he can score more than 10 goals per season.

Hypia : Good loyal Servant but Too old as goes to Finnan.

Futhermore if we manage to sell these players , we can buy good players esp in attacking midfield. Look at Man :censored:, they got Rooney, Ronado, Nani, Anderson and Tevez , if one of them don't play well , the other four can do the job.

Look at us , we only got torres and SG, that's all . It's about time to sell and buy ( at least 2 ) good attacking midfield (sorry no english as good as them ) like Silva ( I hope we can get him ), Quaresma, Franck Ribery, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Joaquín, Vicente and many more.

If we can get at least 2 or more of that players, we will give them a "hell"

in that case hell yea; sell everyone in that squad if we get better replacemenets for all i care ! Keep Torres and Gerrard and sell everyone else.
Hey if Voronin is 8mill im sure we can get a nice few billion on the rest and then go on to buy the best of the best.
On a more serious note, I think its a little too late to be conducting such mass changes in the transfer market this year (maybe Jan but still could be too risky). Finnan and Hyypia should stay till the end of this year, at least. As for voronin he can move to any club for free and id think we'd have conducted great business. Kuyt is a good squad player but if he can be sold for a reasonable amount (8mill or more) while being replaced with someone better then I wouldnt care much about him leaving.

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Hey ! thats you in that picture ?
I didnt know.... explains alot i must say . :p
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Postby Fo Dne » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:40 pm

We got out and sign a £20,300,000 striker and people are suggesting him playing right wing "with freedom".

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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:44 pm

Fo Dne wrote:We got out and sign a £20,300,000 striker and people are suggesting him playing right wing "with freedom".

:no

A MA ZIN!

Its a simple game.. PLay your best players in their best positions!
Our job is simple, to support the club, not just parts of the club that are easy to support, but every one who plays a part, that includes ALL players.  We are stronger when we are all walking in the same direction. Walk On
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Postby SupitsJonF » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:48 pm

Fo Dne wrote:We got out and sign a £20,300,000 striker and people are suggesting him playing right wing "with freedom".

:no

Well, why put him in a system that isn't workin so far.  It's still early, and theres still time to test it and see it build, but if something looks like it isnt working long enough you cant wait during the league to see it happen!  You might drop points!  At the moment I still want Torres and Keane up top, but if they cant make magic against Sunderland how can you expect magic against the top 3?  If Torres keeps performing well only as a solo striker, Keane would be a wasted buy and maybe should switch position or just be resold.  Cant keep what you dont need, regardless of skill. 

However, most of the stuff in my post is 2 months too early to tell, so in summary, lets wait and see what happens  :D

(Assuming this is about Keane, I just woke up)
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Postby aCe' » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:55 pm

Fo Dne wrote:We got out and sign a £20,300,000 striker and people are suggesting him playing right wing "with freedom".

:no

Dont really see anyone suggesting we play him wide right in this thread.
But yea i would be surprised and disappointed if Rafa decides to play him wide right consistently this season.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:27 pm

We have to watch out for these guys tomorrow.  They gave us a tough time like last season at Anfield and I bet this time they will be fired up. 

I hope that we'll see something like this tomorrow...


                 Reina
Arbeloa,Carra,Skrtel/Agger,Dossena
    Kuyt,Alonso,Gerrard,Babel
            Keane,Torres
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Postby rafa09 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:12 pm

WTF is going on here sell,sell,sell. This is the REAL WORLD not X BOX pes3 or any other game. it just don,t work like that
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Postby RedBlood » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:18 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
RedBlood wrote:Pepe


Skrtel      Carragher      Agger      Dossena

             
                 Xabi          Lucas


  Gerrard             Keane             Babel

                     
                         Torres

Id like 2 c Skrtel right back i think hed do a great job there if hes fit that is if not Arebola

& if we havent got lucas back in time id shift Gerrard into the mid with xabi & try Pacheco on the right

skertal right back he end up killing some one haha.  :D

We dont want him killing downing not before we buy him any ways.

were in the rule book does it say ur not aloud 2 kill some1 2 gain victory

imagine him & Dolph Lungdeon i mean Wheater clashing

i think the groung would shake
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