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by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:29 pm

oakton wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
oakton wrote:Why isn't Hyypia playing? Rafa keeps on rotating the defence.

I knew Rafa would kop the blame for it from at least one person.

Explain how the CD pair cost us the goal then, genius...

Because Carra has to save Arbeloa's all night, look how far he has to go on the right leaving the centre for Riise to cover.

Right...

by **destro** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:29 pm

cpc4eva wrote:
destro wrote:Why are people asking where Sami was ? What difference would it have made, there were TWO centre halfs on the pitch already, what did you want, Sami at left back !

If JAR had left it Anelka would have scored if he had swung his right boot it could just as easily have ended up in the roof of the net.

Raffa got his team and the forced change spot on

because you put the best team on the pitch for every game and big sammi is crucial to the team both in attack and defence in games like this.....

the past has shown hypia to be instrumental to success remember inter 05

we need big solid rock type bodies in defence and sammi has shown over 10 years in the club he can handle anyone and he can go forward and score aswell......

the missing piece in the jigsaw especially when we had so many corners to the end of the game...

Yeah and Sami has NEVER scored an own goal has he

Its easy to say AFTER the result, if JAR hadn't scored the own goal NO ONE would mention the team selection. Would Sami have made the last ditch tackles Carra did, or had the pace Skirtel shown on numerous occasions tonight ? Its hypothetical, the two centre halfs we had playing coped with certain situations that maybe Sami would not have

by **Simari** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:29 pm

Every year, every game, every single moment - The RedMen give you endless sleepless nights !!

All we need is 1 goal FOR us, and ffs - it better be from Riise's left foot past Cech :help

by **destro** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:32 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Just been thinking though that Terry wont be able to put a foot wrong next week So run him Ragged Fernando hell be thinking about not getting another yellow.

Terry will be traeding on thin ice

Interesting point that Nanny, I thought Stevie was strangely quiet tonight maybe the yellow hanging over him played on his mind a bit, but once he saw the Reff would only get a card out for a players 8th offence ( Terry ) he shouldn't have worried

by **Kash_Mountain** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:33 pm

For some reason we like to things the hard way. Well if it's got to be the hard way, then hard way it is. Come on Redmen.

Yes, Riise should kicked the ball away, he didn't and that' that.

We've picked ourselfs up in the past and we can certainly do it over and over again. Have faith, we can do it and get to the final.

by **J*o*n*D*o*e** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:34 pm

good thing is they have a tough game at the weekend against manure, i wonder if they`ll risk losing it by resting players

by **7_Kewell** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:34 pm

europian-kings wrote:like everyone here i am gutted. i have no nails left on my fingers and i just hope they grow back for 7 days time. its very very harsh, but theres nothing we can do about it, just hope riise makes up for it next week, if he did that would take all the riise is a legend out of all the chelsea fans msn's which i am seeing at the moment.
Come on lads!! whoever is goin to the away leg im sure you will anyways but i beg of you to give the red men tons of support!

spot on....we're going to WIN on away goals 2-2 at the Bridge.....either than or penalties

by **KennyisGod....still** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:35 pm

Can't believe the pessimism here from some ppl. I lways thought we'd need a goal at the bridge, so whats changed? And like someone said earlier, we score first we're back in the drivin seat and they need 2 to win in 90.

FWIW I had Cech as MoM, with his presence bein instrumental to the chavs. 2 good saves from Torres and a superb effort from SG, we cudda been well clear but for him. Maybe the only 'keeper in the PL I'd rate as an overall better 'keeper than Pepe.

Terry on a yellow, he cant afford to lose Torres, tho sayin that SG, and Carra are in the same boat I guess, tho you'd not hav thort that seein their effort tonite. I'm still optimistic, still see us walkin out in moscow in may, and hopefully playin barca.

by **Leonmc0708** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:36 pm

Dirk Kuyt - :censored:

awesome performance once again.

EVERYTHING lauched at him stuck like fuc.kin glue.

We took our eye off the ball there, MAscherano should have launched the fuc.king thing instead of tying to keep it in play, row fuc.king Z.

by **cpc4eva** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:38 pm

destro wrote:
cpc4eva wrote:
destro wrote:Why are people asking where Sami was ? What difference would it have made, there were TWO centre halfs on the pitch already, what did you want, Sami at left back !

If JAR had left it Anelka would have scored if he had swung his right boot it could just as easily have ended up in the roof of the net.

Raffa got his team and the forced change spot on

because you put the best team on the pitch for every game and big sammi is crucial to the team both in attack and defence in games like this.....

the past has shown hypia to be instrumental to success remember inter 05

we need big solid rock type bodies in defence and sammi has shown over 10 years in the club he can handle anyone and he can go forward and score aswell......

the missing piece in the jigsaw especially when we had so many corners to the end of the game...

Yeah and Sami has NEVER scored an own goal has he Its easy to say AFTER the result, if JAR hadn't scored the own goal NO ONE would mention the team selection. Would Sami have made the last ditch tackles Carra did, or had the pace Skirtel shown on numerous occasions tonight ? Its hypothetical, the two centre halfs we had playing coped with certain situations that maybe Sami would not have

sammi is a top defnsive player has greater confidence and maturity in defence and wouldnt have made that ball a header..... he would of belted it right out of there....

by **REDTILLDEAD** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:39 pm

This could actually work in our favour, We now know that we have to score at least once they will be feeling smug, we might have approached the 2nd leg with a different attitude had we gone there with just a 1-0 lead, now we have to attack, and go for it!, plus chelsea have a big game on saturday against the scum, they wont be able to rest any of their players, we can......lets hope its a nice bruising contest with no prisoners taken, and they kick fukk out of each other, we have nothing to lose, so lets take the game to them rather lose 10-0 than go out on an away goal rule (an own goal at that)

by **destro** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:40 pm

cpc4eva wrote:
destro wrote:
cpc4eva wrote:
destro wrote:Why are people asking where Sami was ? What difference would it have made, there were TWO centre halfs on the pitch already, what did you want, Sami at left back !

If JAR had left it Anelka would have scored if he had swung his right boot it could just as easily have ended up in the roof of the net.

Raffa got his team and the forced change spot on

because you put the best team on the pitch for every game and big sammi is crucial to the team both in attack and defence in games like this.....

the past has shown hypia to be instrumental to success remember inter 05

we need big solid rock type bodies in defence and sammi has shown over 10 years in the club he can handle anyone and he can go forward and score aswell......

the missing piece in the jigsaw especially when we had so many corners to the end of the game...

Yeah and Sami has NEVER scored an own goal has he Its easy to say AFTER the result, if JAR hadn't scored the own goal NO ONE would mention the team selection. Would Sami have made the last ditch tackles Carra did, or had the pace Skirtel shown on numerous occasions tonight ? Its hypothetical, the two centre halfs we had playing coped with certain situations that maybe Sami would not have

sammi is a top defnsive player has greater confidence and maturity in defence and wouldnt have made that ball a header..... he would of belted it right out of there....

Hypothetically

Confidence and Maturity ?

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:43 pm

Right ive calmed down a bit now and no one should complain about any decisions that were made by Raffa .

The right team got put out and we played well particular Xabi showed his class tonight and why he should still be wearing the red shirt some outstanding balls from him. Kuyt again was immence and chased every ball and won his fare share topped it of with a goal. I did think we lost a little bit though when Aurelio went off injured, but Pepe never had one top save to make.

Im gutted that we conceded but over all we were by far the better team, Terry should be up on GBH charges for some of the fouls he commited on Torres. but as i said before hell be treading on thin ice next week trying to avoid a yellow that would keep him out , Well im not gonna say it cause were gonna win .

I :censored:

believe we will be in Moscow come May

Im still gutted though by that own goal

by **Red Dotty** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:43 pm

REDTILLDEAD wrote:This could actually work in our favour, We now know that we have to score at least once they will be feeling smug, we might have approached the 2nd leg with a different attitude had we gone there with just a 1-0 lead, now we have to attack, and go for it!, plus chelsea have a big game on saturday against the scum, they wont be able to rest any of their players, we can......lets hope its a nice bruising contest with no prisoners taken, and they kick fukk out of each other, we have nothing to lose, so lets take the game to them rather lose 10-0 than go out on an away goal rule (an own goal at that)

Totally agree :nod

by **Owzat** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:49 pm

J*o*n*D*o*e wrote:good thing is they have a tough game at the weekend against manure, i wonder if they`ll risk losing it by resting players

Not a chanc, they won't want to lose the game and that long unbeaten run at home and they certainly will want to keep the pressure on the mancs even if a win would still leave the title in the manc's hands. And they'll feel the job is done with an away goal, I hate the away goals rule and I think a lot of people overestimate the away goal.

Take Arsenal, they conceded an away goal and scored twice at Anfield. We certainly weren't through because we scored one away goal. To me away goals simply ruin a good 2nd leg because they dictate mentality. Even in the 1st leg everyone hypes up "the away goal", blatantly ignoring or oblivious to the fact that we score first at SB, or level at 1-1, and their away goal will be negated. The only way that SINGLE away goal would count for anything in terms of getting them through is at 0-0, even at 1-1 it would have been cancelled out.

The focus should be that we didn't lose, we're in the game and they may have a SINGLE away goal, but we have 90 mins to score one or even 120 mins to score two. Even if they do score first then we can equalise to head to extra time, they won't be able to relax until they are 2-0 up and then a single goal will make them uneasy. Like I say, it dictates mentality to much, I'd rather have both sides trying to win on aggregate and if they can't then play extra time and penalties.

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