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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:03 pm

Big Niall wrote:
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greenred wrote:Fair enough,no Englishman can answer the question "what would you do if the Germans took hold of part of your country"?


I presume none of you would fight,none of you would rebel,none of you would fight back.


The English are unusual.

Mate, had it happened hundreds of years ago, we wouldn't WANT to do anything as we'd all be Germans.

The fact is, your country kept it's culture.

Stop bitching at the English about it, when those who started it are all dead.
Are you still bitter and twisted towards the German nation for the 2 World Wars? I somehow doubt it.

BTW - Why do you actually want a united Ireland, when it's them you are actually fighting with?

No Irishman now has a right to B*tch about British rule etc. There were :censored: times in the past but now we are flying it and speaking English is a huge advantage. We did NOT lose our culture - well no more than any other country in this "American age".

Northern Ireland is settling down too and hopefully they will all learn to get along. I don't think that the Republic of Ireland or Britain has any economic interest in Northern Ireland (I think it is in bad shape and relies on UK government grants/subsidies).

Exactly mate.

Some sense at last.
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Postby Big Niall » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:43 pm

Also, the perception that Catholics in Northern Ireland all want to be part of a united Ireland is false. A poll carried out in the last few weeks showed the figure among catholics was roughly 50% (can't remember the exact figure). About 20% of the police force is now Catholic too - this figure is growing.

I am guessing that many catholics in NI feel that they are doing well and fear that if it didn't get its subsidies from Britain that the economy would go to sh*te and that they'd lose their jobs. I think ROUGHLY 45% of NI is catholic (maybe a bit more) but overall It seems that only about 25% of the population would want a United Ireland - assuming nearly all protestants do not want a united Ireland.

I do NOT want one as we(ROI) are doing well at the moment but I do hope that I live to be old enough to drive up in a Southern reg car and go to a bar in any part of NI and have a meal drink (soft, if I am driving!) there. Same for British reg in catholic areas.

If another George Best comes along though, I say invade the North, conquer it, and switch Duff to the right wing. :D
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Postby kazza 1 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:03 pm

Woollyback wrote:kazza i thought you'd sorted out a move to tenerife? my brother's done spanish night classes for a while and got his gcse and he reckons that's enabled him to get by daily life speaking the lingo when he's there, but nothing too complicated obviously. i'd love to do classes but my life is insanely busy as i work mental hours (not so much long hours, just wierd and wonderful hours) and when i'm not at work all my time is taken up by being a family man and just generally letting off steam cos my work is quite high pressured

which brings me to the point i want to make, it's not so much the EU i like, it's european culture (southern europe to be precise) where there is more to life than what salary you're on, what your house is worth and what car you drive. we've got it all wrong in britain - we BOAST about how many hours a week we work, how f*cked up is that :wwww  in southern europe they stick 2 fingers up to the rule book and put family & friends first which is how it should be. the french have an expression for it, it's called "savoir faire" which loosely translated means they "know how to live" and that doesn't revolve around rampant consumerism, it's about having REAL quality of life not just owning lots of stuff

which brings me to my next point, we're all talking here about being able to move to france/spain/germany or wherever. can you imagine how difficult that would have been before the EU opened up borders in 1992? feckin impossible i reckon, and for changing that, the EU should be applauded

It was all sorted Woolly, but it went a bit pear shaped. It ended up that there was no job for me other half and I would'nt go without him. Its a dream we both have, so if he cant get a job, I won't go. As for learning the lingo, I have the names of a couple of really good home learning lessons I can give you :D  I have to pm sabre to help me out with my verbs!! Having real problems with them :(
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:10 am

Big Niall wrote:Also, the perception that Catholics in Northern Ireland all want to be part of a united Ireland is false. A poll carried out in the last few weeks showed the figure among catholics was roughly 50% (can't remember the exact figure). About 20% of the police force is now Catholic too - this figure is growing.

I am guessing that many catholics in NI feel that they are doing well and fear that if it didn't get its subsidies from Britain that the economy would go to sh*te and that they'd lose their jobs. I think ROUGHLY 45% of NI is catholic (maybe a bit more) but overall It seems that only about 25% of the population would want a United Ireland - assuming nearly all protestants do not want a united Ireland.

I do NOT want one as we(ROI) are doing well at the moment but I do hope that I live to be old enough to drive up in a Southern reg car and go to a bar in any part of NI and have a meal drink (soft, if I am driving!) there. Same for British reg in catholic areas.

If another George Best comes along though, I say invade the North, conquer it, and switch Duff to the right wing. :D

:D

You seem very at-ease with the whole thing, Niall.

Nice to see mate.
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