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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:06 am

s@int wrote:I think your being a little unfair there Lando after all they did invent the chip (French fry)  :D

Actually, the potato was first fried like a chip in Greece. :;): :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:16 am

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greenred wrote:Im Irish Sabre and not sure if you want my opinion,but i'll give it to you anyway.

Ireland was a part of Britain for eight hundred years.We got nothing out of the deal cos we were a different form of Christianity.They stripped us of our wealth,our culture,our language,our pride.They treated us like scum,and they left us with nothing but bitterness.

We joined the European Union in 1973 and we are now one of the top five richest country on earth.


The EU has been good to Ireland.

What you must try to realise is if it hadnt been Britain it would have been some other c*nts. At least we protected you from invasion by all the other avaricious countries out there. No doubt we extracted a heavy price for this protection but then again I expect the Angles, the Saxons, Romans,the Danes,Norwegians, the Vikings, the Normans and the French all did the same here when they invaded England. But we don't hold a grudge.

They didn't stick it on you for eight hundred years.

How would you feel if your part of England belonged to Germany?....would you fight or would you lay down your arms?

Most of our country belongs to Germans - Prince Charles alone owns most of Cornwall and half of London.We have had to pay for that lot for a lot longer than 800 years and we are still paying for them.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:17 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
s@int wrote:I think your being a little unfair there Lando after all they did invent the chip (French fry)  :D

Actually, the potato was first fried like a chip in Greece. :;): :D

I like that one Lando  :D
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:22 am

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s@int wrote:I think your being a little unfair there Lando after all they did invent the chip (French fry)  :D

Actually, the potato was first fried like a chip in Greece. :;): :D

I like that one Lando  :D

I couldn't resist. :D

Genuinely, though - it was the Greeks who first fried potaoto like a chip!!! :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:30 am

In that case B*stards to a man, I tell ya!!! 
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:37 am

s@int wrote:In that case B*stards to a man, I tell ya!!! 
:D

:D

I knew you'd see it my way!!!!! :D
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Postby greenred » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:46 am

Fair enough,no Englishman can answer the question "what would you do if the Germans took hold of part of your country"?


I presume none of you would fight,none of you would rebel,none of you would fight back.


The English are unusual.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:49 am

greenred wrote:Fair enough,no Englishman can answer the question "what would you do if the Germans took hold of part of your country"?


I presume none of you would fight,none of you would rebel,none of you would fight back.


The English are unusual.

Mate, had it happened hundreds of years ago, we wouldn't WANT to do anything as we'd all be Germans.

The fact is, your country kept it's culture.

Stop bitching at the English about it, when those who started it are all dead.
Are you still bitter and twisted towards the German nation for the 2 World Wars? I somehow doubt it.

BTW - Why do you actually want a united Ireland, when it's them you are actually fighting with?
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Postby greenred » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:07 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
greenred wrote:Fair enough,no Englishman can answer the question "what would you do if the Germans took hold of part of your country"?


I presume none of you would fight,none of you would rebel,none of you would fight back.


The English are unusual.

Mate, had it happened hundreds of years ago, we wouldn't WANT to do anything as we'd all be Germans.

?

Thats the difference between the Irish and the English Lando.

You would be German

I would still be Irish.


We dont bow down for anyone.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:14 am

greenred wrote:
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greenred wrote:Fair enough,no Englishman can answer the question "what would you do if the Germans took hold of part of your country"?


I presume none of you would fight,none of you would rebel,none of you would fight back.


The English are unusual.

Mate, had it happened hundreds of years ago, we wouldn't WANT to do anything as we'd all be Germans.

?

Thats the difference between the Irish and the English Lando.

You would be German

I would still be Irish.


We dont bow down for anyone.

But if we had occupied Ireland, and stripped your culture bare, everyone there would be English, surely?

You can't claim to be what you have never known. (Luckily for Ireland, Britain DIDN'T use genecidal methods.)

WHat about when Ireland was part of a great mass of land, rather than an island on it's own? If you aren't subject to change, surely you're just another human, right?

F*ck it. If we're going to be funny about it all, you're actually a chimp. SO forget GErman, English, Irish, etc.
You're a Primate, just like the rest of us.

That is where we come from, ergo by your logic, that is what we are, no matter WHO rules us.

Silly, don't you think?

BTW - You still haven't answered my question about WHY you want a United Ireland, and HOW you can expect us to turn our backs on the Northerners who don't.

SUrely it's just the same as what the British did to Ireland? Tried to take control of a country that didn't want it?

Think about it, then get back to me. :;):
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Postby Judge » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:37 am

Sabre wrote:This is a query so that the british around here give some insight about how you feel about European Union and all that.

I won't enter the discussion, I'd just like to read your thoughts about it. I've spoken and drunk with several english people already but I've learnt that Scousers have their own personality and in many things they are not like the cockneys and think different.

So are you one of those "Back off Brussels" guys, or do you believe in the European Thingy?

I respect much every opinion, but a UE without the full cooperation of U.K. would be pointless IMO.

SOrry, I misclicked but I meant to enter this on general chat!!!!!!!!! mods , please move it.

i do not agree with the EU. Germany are in charge now, more or less, so what was the second world war about, if it wasnt for freedom from german ambition.

they have europe diplomatically. fucking gets me angry.

this country is weak now. it wouldnt be if i was in charge.

rant over  :p
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Postby LFC #1 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:59 am

Judge wrote:
Sabre wrote:This is a query so that the british around here give some insight about how you feel about European Union and all that.

I won't enter the discussion, I'd just like to read your thoughts about it. I've spoken and drunk with several english people already but I've learnt that Scousers have their own personality and in many things they are not like the cockneys and think different.

So are you one of those "Back off Brussels" guys, or do you believe in the European Thingy?

I respect much every opinion, but a UE without the full cooperation of U.K. would be pointless IMO.

SOrry, I misclicked but I meant to enter this on general chat!!!!!!!!! mods , please move it.

i do not agree with the EU. Germany are in charge now, more or less, so what was the second world war about, if it wasnt for freedom from german ambition.

they have europe diplomatically. fucking gets me angry.

this country is weak now. it wouldnt be if i was in charge.

rant over  :p

It makes sense that Germany is "in charge" though, It's the biggest country in Europe and has the strongest economy. Frankfurt is the hub of mainland Europe in terms of access to the rest of the continent and the financial sector.
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Postby Judge » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:05 am

LFC #1 wrote:
Judge wrote:
Sabre wrote:This is a query so that the british around here give some insight about how you feel about European Union and all that.

I won't enter the discussion, I'd just like to read your thoughts about it. I've spoken and drunk with several english people already but I've learnt that Scousers have their own personality and in many things they are not like the cockneys and think different.

So are you one of those "Back off Brussels" guys, or do you believe in the European Thingy?

I respect much every opinion, but a UE without the full cooperation of U.K. would be pointless IMO.

SOrry, I misclicked but I meant to enter this on general chat!!!!!!!!! mods , please move it.

i do not agree with the EU. Germany are in charge now, more or less, so what was the second world war about, if it wasnt for freedom from german ambition.

they have europe diplomatically. fucking gets me angry.

this country is weak now. it wouldnt be if i was in charge.

rant over  :p

It makes sense that Germany is "in charge" though, It's the biggest country in Europe and has the strongest economy. Frankfurt is the hub of mainland Europe in terms of access to the rest of the continent and the financial sector.

i bet you two wars it doesnt scott

try telling that to the 80yr + folk still around who ask me, why are germany in charge, didnt we fight them to stop there domination of europe, not once but twice.

im sorry, it stinks.
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Postby LFC #1 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:29 am

Judge wrote:
LFC #1 wrote:
Judge wrote:
Sabre wrote:This is a query so that the british around here give some insight about how you feel about European Union and all that.

I won't enter the discussion, I'd just like to read your thoughts about it. I've spoken and drunk with several english people already but I've learnt that Scousers have their own personality and in many things they are not like the cockneys and think different.

So are you one of those "Back off Brussels" guys, or do you believe in the European Thingy?

I respect much every opinion, but a UE without the full cooperation of U.K. would be pointless IMO.

SOrry, I misclicked but I meant to enter this on general chat!!!!!!!!! mods , please move it.

i do not agree with the EU. Germany are in charge now, more or less, so what was the second world war about, if it wasnt for freedom from german ambition.

they have europe diplomatically. fucking gets me angry.

this country is weak now. it wouldnt be if i was in charge.

rant over  :p

It makes sense that Germany is "in charge" though, It's the biggest country in Europe and has the strongest economy. Frankfurt is the hub of mainland Europe in terms of access to the rest of the continent and the financial sector.

i bet you two wars it doesnt scott

try telling that to the 80yr + folk still around who ask me, why are germany in charge, didnt we fight them to stop there domination of europe, not once but twice.

im sorry, it stinks.

Hardly, those 80 year olds around you probably think a Fascist/Nazi regime is still in charge, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth (their is sill a Neo Nazi element in Germany, but even Engand has one).

Germany isn't going to take over the World or anything like that, it just has a large say in Europe because it is a prosperous demcocracy with the largest population in Europe. Many Germans are very fluent in English as well which helps as it is the lingua franca these days.

Germany is one of the more passive world powers, it never supports the US in it's invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Germany is very weary of it's past and most of it's citizens can't beleive that Germany was the way it was 60 years ago, they hate what Hitler stood for and don't want Germany to return to those grim old days.

You're being a little paranoid. There are more dangerous countries like North Korea and Iran about, and major world problems like terrorism etc to combat, rather than worrying about Germany ffs. Germany is an ally, not an enemy.
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Postby Woollyback » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:41 am

we don't deserve to be in charge of europe, we're a nation of increasingly fat drunks who can barely read or write

at least the germans can read & write :D 

i really want to emigrate but because i was dragged up through britain's sh*te state school system i can't speak any foreign languages, now i'm old it's gonna take forever to get to learn french/spanish/italian. my line of work means i'd have to be completely fluent and i don't fancy taking a pay cut by starting another career :sniffle

as for the pound i really don't give a monkeys, it's only a currency at the end of the day. do the irish miss the punt? i bet they don't give a sh*te.  every time you or i go on holiday the banks skin us on exchange rates, every time a british company trades with a european country the banks skin them both on exchange rates, it's pointless and expensive.

as for as the EU money that goes to the poorer countries (eg. poland), doesn't anyone actually realise what this does!? for years british firms have never been able to sell a thing to the poles cos they've all been skint. spend a bit of EU cash on them and you're helping them develop as a country and sooner or later you've got 35 million poles with money to spend on products and services provided by british companies. to say we're giving them handouts for nothing is a bit short sighted if y'ask me

britain sucks (mostly) an i'd go tomorrow if i could :rasp
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