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by **skipper** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:42 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Paul C wrote:
aCe' wrote:6.7 mill for a sub isnt all that bad . i just dont know why 10mill for a first team player is too much if 6.7mill for a sub isnt !

A sub?

So who do you think is going to be our starting right winger, Rafa hasn't spend £6.7m for Pennant to sit on the bench!!

Assuming that Rafa hasn't bought him to sit on the bench , with Gerrard moved back inside, Alosonso or Sissoko are gonna be fighting it out for the remaining CM spot . Unless of course he goes with a 5 man midfield with Gerrard pushed forward .

The more i think about it , Rafa's permutations are now seemingly endless.

Can't wait for the season to start.

yes, I really can't wait. Many players on the team are going to be competing for their positions and Rafa's got tons and tons of different combinations.

I really can't wait for the season to start!

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:52 am

aCe' wrote:the italian league is the most physical/demanding league in the world

Do you expect to be taken seriously with comments like that?

Seria A is full of diving nancy-boys.

All you need is a tactical brain, and good technical ability. Why do you think Robbie attracted such interest from Italy when Frog-boy sold him?

If Seria A is the most physical league in the World, then you're straight, my friend.

by **GOAT** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:54 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:
aCe' wrote:the italian league is the most physical/demanding league in the world

Do you expect to be taken seriously with comments like that?

Seria A is full of diving nancy-boys.

All you need is a tactical brain, and good technical ability. Why do you think Robbie attracted such interest from Italy when Frog-boy sold him?

If Seria A is the most physical league in the World, then you're straight, my friend.

Yeah just what i was thinking, it the slowest and most physically weak league around

by **wee_boi888** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:00 am

aCe' wrote:What on earth ?! purelonewolf...if trezeguet can stand the challenges and strength of the italian league....he sure can in the prem....the italian league is the most physical/demanding league in the world....for you to be a striker and score so many goals....thats something ! i'v watched some dutch league games last season and quite a few two sseasons ago and i tell you.....you get to hold the ball and roam around for some time before u'r challenged ! not gonna happen in the prem ! def. not gonna happen in seieA ! better get ur info straight mate ! he's a solid striker with superb balance/positioning/finishing/heading....all the right attributes if u ask me !

Yes...the...Serie...A...does...have...very...tight...defending...but...it...does...not...m

ean...it...is...the...most...physical...

I can't do this any more.

Serie A is a traditionally defencive league. It has changed a bit with the years, but the defending is quite rough and often dirty.

However, a physical league it is not. Close marking, patient build ups and skillful link up(as in the basic 1-2's etc, not tricky Brazilian stuff), is the way it is played in Serie A.

Trez isn't much of a holding striker and even if he tried will most like fail as one. Kuyt however is stronger and I think (I may be wrong with this) a better link up player similar to crouch, but with a better overall goalscoring ability. Trez is the all out cherry picking striker many people have been asking for, but I for one would rather Kuyt minus the falling over.

EDIT

By the way, isnt this supposed to be a Pennant thread???

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:10 am

Anyhoo...

With the current squad, I think we could see 2 different formations throughout the season. Not the only two - but the 2 most often used.

Here is my guess for the hime games, with the only possible exception being Sh*tski:

Reina

JC Sami Agger

Sissoko Alonso

Pennant Gerrard Gonzalez

Bellamy Fowler/Crouch/New chap.

Here is what I'd expect for the tougher away games:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Sissoko Alonso

Gerrard
Pennant Gonzalez

Bellamy/Crouch.

The alternative at home (4 at the back), would see Sissoko or Alonso rested in place of Finnan, and Aurelio replacing Agger. Probably expect to line up like this:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Alonso

Pennant Gonzalez
Gerrard

Fowler/Crouch
Bellamy/New chap.

We have so many options now, and I wouldn't like to be Rafa when picking the team!!!

No matter who plays, we have easily one of the top two squads in the Premiership.

Sh*tsk, Scum and Goooooooners:

I believe you may like to stock up on the following items:

by **laza** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:21 am

Oh well i guess the transfer junkies cant complain about Rafa's lack of spending this summer.
Really looking forward to season now just to see how main line up will be

by **woof woof !** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:25 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:Anyhoo...

With the current squad, I think we could see 2 different formations throughout the season. Not the only two - but the 2 most often used.

Here is my guess for the hime games, with the only possible exception being Sh*tski:

Reina

JC Sami Agger

Sissoko Alonso

Pennant Gerrard Gonzalez

Bellamy Fowler/Crouch/New chap.

Here is what I'd expect for the tougher away games:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Sissoko Alonso

Gerrard
Pennant Gonzalez

Bellamy/Crouch.

The alternative at home (4 at the back), would see Sissoko or Alonso rested in place of Finnan, and Aurelio replacing Agger. Probably expect to line up like this:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Alonso

Pennant Gonzalez
Gerrard

Fowler/Crouch
Bellamy/New chap.

We have so many options now, and I wouldn't like to be Rafa when picking the team!!!

No matter who plays, we have easily one of the top two squads in the Premiership.

Whats just as interesting are the names NOT mentioned in those line ups Lando . Particularly Kewell, Riise and Garcia . They'll certainly be competition for places , not sure how some of the more established members will settle for being bit part players .

All in all though we are looking so much stronger and competitive.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:30 am

woof woof ! wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:Anyhoo...

With the current squad, I think we could see 2 different formations throughout the season. Not the only two - but the 2 most often used.

Here is my guess for the hime games, with the only possible exception being Sh*tski:

Reina

JC Sami Agger

Sissoko Alonso

Pennant Gerrard Gonzalez

Bellamy Fowler/Crouch/New chap.

Here is what I'd expect for the tougher away games:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Sissoko Alonso

Gerrard
Pennant Gonzalez

Bellamy/Crouch.

The alternative at home (4 at the back), would see Sissoko or Alonso rested in place of Finnan, and Aurelio replacing Agger. Probably expect to line up like this:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Alonso

Pennant Gonzalez
Gerrard

Fowler/Crouch
Bellamy/New chap.

We have so many options now, and I wouldn't like to be Rafa when picking the team!!!

No matter who plays, we have easily one of the top two squads in the Premiership.

Whats just as interesting are the names NOT mentioned in those line ups Lando . Particularly Kewell, Riise and Garcia . They'll certainly be competition for places , not sure how some of the more established members will settle for being bit part players .

All in all though we are looking so much stronger and competitive.

Absolutely. Not forgetting Zenden, Kromkamp, Paletta, Anderson, etc.

We're getting there...

by **red pride** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:43 am

I hope your right I want more English lads playing for the club, and like Robbie and Bellamy, Pennant

bellamy is welsh not english

by **MilitiaRusher** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:56 am

I think its time to offload some of the players currently on our payroll. Seems like we have a surplus of left sided players with seemingly 3 vying for left wing (Riise, Gonzalez, Kewell), and as many as 4 vying for left back (Riise, Aurelio, Traore, Warnock). Of course, Diao leaving need not be mentioned and perhaps a few more going off on loan (Pongolle, Warnock/Traore, Anderson) will leave us with a perfectly trimmed squad.

Back to the Kuyt debate, I believe that he isn't as bad a player as some of you think. It's actually the matter of whether he is REALLY needed at the moment. We have currently as many as 6 players that can fulfill the forward roles (Bellamy, Crouch, Fowler, Pongolle, [Garcia], [Kewell]) and do you think we can afford to accomodate so many similarly skilled strikers in the same team while keeping morale up? Unless we experience another injury crisis, such as that suffered 2 seasons ago, I don't see why we should buy another striker for that matter. Like I said, we should be trimming the squad at the moment.

by **Kukilon** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:41 am

MilitiaRusher wrote:I think its time to offload some of the players currently on our payroll. Seems like we have a surplus of left sided players with seemingly 3 vying for left wing (Riise, Gonzalez, Kewell), and as many as 4 vying for left back (Riise, Aurelio, Traore, Warnock). Of course, Diao leaving need not be mentioned and perhaps a few more going off on loan (Pongolle, Warnock/Traore, Anderson) will leave us with a perfectly trimmed squad.

Back to the Kuyt debate, I believe that he isn't as bad a player as some of you think. It's actually the matter of whether he is REALLY needed at the moment. We have currently as many as 6 players that can fulfill the forward roles (Bellamy, Crouch, Fowler, Pongolle, [Garcia], [Kewell]) and do you think we can afford to accomodate so many similarly skilled strikers in the same team while keeping morale up? Unless we experience another injury crisis, such as that suffered 2 seasons ago, I don't see why we should buy another striker for that matter. Like I said, we should be trimming the squad at the moment.

I agree totally. The next most important issue is to fix funding for the new arena.

by **GOAT** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:44 am

MilitiaRusher wrote:I think its time to offload some of the players currently on our payroll. Seems like we have a surplus of left sided players with seemingly 3 vying for left wing (Riise, Gonzalez, Kewell), and as many as 4 vying for left back (Riise, Aurelio, Traore, Warnock). Of course, Diao leaving need not be mentioned and perhaps a few more going off on loan (Pongolle, Warnock/Traore, Anderson) will leave us with a perfectly trimmed squad.

Back to the Kuyt debate, I believe that he isn't as bad a player as some of you think. It's actually the matter of whether he is REALLY needed at the moment. We have currently as many as 6 players that can fulfill the forward roles (Bellamy, Crouch, Fowler, Pongolle, [Garcia], [Kewell]) and do you think we can afford to accomodate so many similarly skilled strikers in the same team while keeping morale up? Unless we experience another injury crisis, such as that suffered 2 seasons ago, I don't see why we should buy another striker for that matter. Like I said, we should be trimming the squad at the moment.

Yeah we do need to get rid of the deadwood but the big question is how are we going to get rid of them? No one will have any of them

by **GOAT** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:50 am

In the Pennant interview: "Yes, this is the best club in the country and the best club to be at so if I can't do it here then I won't be able to do it anywhere."

Does that make sense? This is the best club in the country so if i fail here i will fail anywhere..

by **laza** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:16 am

Offload deadwood............Rafa being doing that for last couple of seasons.
We are now in the situation that we have some serious competition for places and that can only be good for the team.
I expect by end of season some players will move on as they dont get enough game time but that just a side effect of happy situation of having a decent squad.
Even moneybays Chelski are faced with that problem

by **Lando_Griffin** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:18 am

MilitiaRusher wrote:I think its time to offload some of the players currently on our payroll. Seems like we have a surplus of left sided players with seemingly 3 vying for left wing (Riise, Gonzalez, Kewell), and as many as 4 vying for left back (Riise, Aurelio, Traore, Warnock). Of course, Diao leaving need not be mentioned and perhaps a few more going off on loan (Pongolle, Warnock/Traore, Anderson) will leave us with a perfectly trimmed squad.

Back to the Kuyt debate, I believe that he isn't as bad a player as some of you think. It's actually the matter of whether he is REALLY needed at the moment. We have currently as many as 6 players that can fulfill the forward roles (Bellamy, Crouch, Fowler, Pongolle, [Garcia], [Kewell]) and do you think we can afford to accomodate so many similarly skilled strikers in the same team while keeping morale up? Unless we experience another injury crisis, such as that suffered 2 seasons ago, I don't see why we should buy another striker for that matter. Like I said, we should be trimming the squad at the moment.

Personally, I feel we DO still need another out-and-out striker.

Garcia is good, but Fowler is better.

Kewell - see above.

Bellamy and Crouch are like chalk and cheese, so I would say a Kuyt-type player is EXACTLY what we lack.

Strong, swift and aerially dominant.

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