Good Bob wrote:bedlovedays wrote:While name calling is a highly admirable technique may I suggest using a logical argument.
I watched every single game this year. Including the first twenty in which crouch scored a grand total of zero goals while starting every game. During these games he rarely had a shot on goal and never threatened.
I also watched the 21st game where he lobbed the ball from center half and the keeper pushed into his own net. The goal was up for debate as to whether it was an own goal or whether Crouch deserved it.
Crouch's third goal of the season was also up for debate.
Go and check the game stats. You will see when Cisse started or came on he scored in at least half of those appearances.
This is called logical debate. Try it
While you are at it you might want to try learning how to spell. Ridiculous not rediculous.
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Firstly you critisize my spelling then come out with grammar like this?
I also watched the 21st game where he lobbed the ball from center half and the keeper pushed into his own net. The goal was up for debate as to whether it was an own goal or whether Crouch deserved it.
You then go into the arguement that two of Crouchies goals were debatable? Well the first one against Wigan, was a lob over the keeper which the defender couldn't and didn't get to. The third one was a header which beat Shay Given and Given got a hand to but couldn't keep it out.
Now you're taking away the credibility of Crouchies goals?
Firstly i'll agree. Crouch will never score as many goals as Sissy will. Not in a million years. Because Sissy will shoot on sight and score alot of lucky goals. He'll even shoot when he shouldn't. Now i'm going to use the example of the 7-0 Birmingham game. Sissy had a defender infront of him and yet still chose to hit a shot. One that was scuffed i might add. It went through the defenders legs (poor defending) and then the goalkeeper fumbled it into the back of the net. It was a poor standard of goal. Against a better defender he doesn't get that shot away, against a better goalkeeper the keeper saves that shot. No he can only beat whats there, i agree. However away at old trafford he missed a sitter from 4 yards out because of his constant sulks and moans instead of getting up and getting on with it.
Sissy scored 4 of his 19 goals in the first rounds of the champions league against poor opponents with little skill or ability. His next two goals came in the super cup against Moscow, now, please feel free to correct me, but one of them he handballed to get himself through on goal and the other he needed two attempts to score. Now with a better referee (and that ref was poor) the game stops when he handballs it. Against a better keeper, that second chance that he needed to bury the second goal wouldn't have come about. So his two goals were of a questionable quality and again against very average opposition.
His next goal was a well taken penalty against Birmingham. 14million for a penalty taker. The next a 1-0 win over Blackburn, a free kick if i'm not mistaken that was rolled into his path and he burried. Yet the wall parted like the red see, again against better players, things like that don't happen.
He then sored two goals against Anderlecht, the one at anfield was a poor peice of goalkeeping where the keeper was beaten at his near post and very very slow off his line. The other one of them being a tremendous volley, however, if you look at the goal again you'll see he was unmarked and didn't move, IE he got lucky that everyone around him distracted a poor Marsielle defence. The volley then went over the keeper who went to ground VERY VERY early.
Against Betis he didn't play but i do remember the excellent move that was initiated by Crouchie for Luis Garcia's goal in that game.
The next one was against Portsmouth, it was meant to be a cross and it dropped into the net.
So far, worth every penny of the 14million then yeah? Great goals and difficult ones against all the best sides...
The next one was against Everton. While it was a great finish and i take my hat off as it was a finish i didn't know he had in him, it was one he's only shown once and one he was lucky to get the chance with. Wier slipped and let him in on goal. Had Wier kept his footing it was a simple challenge and Sissy wouldn't have had the chance.
The next against Newcastle i can't remember. But i do remember Gerrard's goal and i remember Crouchies part in that goal aswell.
The next one was against Birmingham, i've covered that one already.
The one against West Brom again i'll say well done. It was a good run, good control on the knee and a good finish to beat the keeper, however West Brom were poor down the side Cisse was playing on that day. It worked though and he scored a good goal.
The two against West ham i remember one beating Hislop at his near post from 25 yards out. Sorry, poor goalkeeping. Not a quality goal yet again. The one against Portsmouth i can't remember and the one in the cup final was world class alround.
So all in all he's scored three good goals. A couple of penalties, a few goals against the worst opposition he's ever likely to play against and about 7 or 8 lucky goals and a couple of oppurtunist goals. He failed to score against the Boltons, Tottenhams, Man Utds, Chelsea's and Arsenal's of the league and his alround play in alot of games was absoloutely none existant.
His petulance and non stop moaning winds the fans up, his inability to spot simple passes and do the most basic of things like passing to Fowler when the whole ground can hear him screaming for the ball when he's in 10 yards of space 18 yards out winds the fans up, his attitude on the pitch winds the fans up and most importantly, out manager thinks he's a bag of
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How's that for logical debate?
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