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by **Red black white** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:46 pm

columbia wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
columbia wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:I would like to see how Liverpool react playing in Morumbi, SP, Brazil, against us...

Can you feel the pression ?!?

São Paulo FC have more than 13 million supporters.

we are the third most supported club in the world.

You are definitively a joker!!!

Liverpool ?! Come on... may be the 54th position...

i beg your pardon, third most in europe. Still more fans then sao paulo though

EURO CHAMPS ARE BRITAIN'S BEST SUPPORTED CLUB
Mark Platt 19 July 2005
Liverpool are now considered to be the best supported British club across the world, according to a leading sports consultants company.
A report published today by German-based Sport+Markt AG has revealed that following the recent Champion League success our worldwide fan base has increased by 10 million.

It goes on to say that we can now boast 18 million supporters across the world, a figure bettered only by Real Madrid (32 million) and Barcelona (23 million) in Europe.

Sport+Markt AG's top nine best supported European clubs

1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. LIVERPOOL
4. Juventus
5. Milan
6. Manchester United
7. Arsenal
8. Bayern Munich
9. Chelsea

Really man? 10 million? That's quite a lot. However, I don't think this number represents "loyal" supporters. I might be wrong, but it's just quite difficult to belive that only one conquest can increse this much the number of supporters.

Setting another example, São Paulo before nineties had the seventh biggest fan base in Brazil. However, after 1991, 1992 and 1993 (when São Paulo won EVERYTHING, including the World Club Championships 92 and 93) the fan base became the third in Brazil. However, it wasn't quick...it was a whole generation that grew up watching São Paulo conquests.

You may know, World Club Championship is every important in South America, and I believe that São Paulo fan base in Brazil will have another boost if we win it for the third time (considering that we have already won Libertadores Cup this year - the Champion's League for South America).

by **fivecups** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:01 pm

gonzul_morado wrote:
wrighty (not mark!) wrote:I heard the shanty's in Brazil and costa rica are top drawer.

Some of them even come in mud colour

Is that supposed to be an insult to our humble houses??.....

listen to me you ....we've come here with nothing but respect to oyu and your team....to discuss the upcoming games of the WCC......and you come up with that stupid response?

Brazil and Costa Rica...both may have trouble with poberty,crime,etc....btu we are working on m getting over tis problem....on our own...but at least i am proud of my people's humble way of beeing and living.....our beautiful rainforests and beaches...our mountains and volcanos(therea are non in Brazil).......houses made with mud are beautigul...and considered patrimony of tha nation....we have a litteracy index of 97%...higher than a lot of "developed" countrys....so think before you post...

My apologies to the rest of you that had treated us with respect...i know this is a football forum...but i can not be quiet about this stuff...

HASTA VENCER
HASTA MORIR

Can some of you new people from South America tell me if Saprissa are any good.

Gonzul Morado: I wouldn't worry about these comments. Supporters from other teams sing songs about the poverty of Scousers to try and annoy the Liverpool fans.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:05 pm

Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:Look, you Sao Paulo fan. Don't be so paranoid over this mickey mouse tournament because as far as we are concerned, we have many other higher priority games to worry about. So please, leave your comments on how Sao Paulo are better then us, better then this, better then that, by yourself.

If we win, then thats another trophy. If we don't, I won't give half a sh!te, unless we manage to come back without any adverse effects. Just think about it, I would rather obtain full points during the 4 game Christmas schedule rather then winning this mickey mouse cup.

Given your team's pedigree, I wouldn't be surprised if you lot are THAT desperate to win this cup.

2 Intercontinental Cups
3 Libertadores Cups
3 Brazilian Championships
1 Conmebol Cup
1 Conmebol Supercup
2 South American Recups
21 Paulista Championships
... and more more more...

and yours ?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/lfc_story/honours/

Respectable!

Our cabinet...

http://www.saopaulofc.net/1NOVO2.asp?PLC_map_001_c=03.01.05

Now review the strength of the opposition you faced when winning these cups.

by **gonzul_morado** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:09 pm

fivecups wrote:Can some of you new people from South America tell me if Saprissa are any good.

Gonzul Morado: I wouldn't worry about these comments. Supporters from other teams sing songs about the poverty of Scousers to try and annoy the Liverpool fans.

Ok i won't...sorry again....what's Scousers...a part of Liverpool?

About Saprissa...like i said before....against Sidney we did'nt pla our best game.....but we still got the victory...know playing against a much better team as Liverpool...it will bring up the best of our players.....

We do have good technique....but we dont have the physicall capability you do....i hope it's gonna be a close match..and we're confident of getting a positive experience and result....

Beware if the match gets to penalty kicks...we haven't lost in penalties since 1989...since then we have won 10 series....and we have a very good keeper

by **Bandeirante_SPFC** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:09 pm

fivecups wrote:
gonzul_morado wrote:
wrighty (not mark!) wrote:I heard the shanty's in Brazil and costa rica are top drawer.

Some of them even come in mud colour

Is that supposed to be an insult to our humble houses??.....

listen to me you ....we've come here with nothing but respect to oyu and your team....to discuss the upcoming games of the WCC......and you come up with that stupid response?

Brazil and Costa Rica...both may have trouble with poberty,crime,etc....btu we are working on m getting over tis problem....on our own...but at least i am proud of my people's humble way of beeing and living.....our beautiful rainforests and beaches...our mountains and volcanos(therea are non in Brazil).......houses made with mud are beautigul...and considered patrimony of tha nation....we have a litteracy index of 97%...higher than a lot of "developed" countrys....so think before you post...

My apologies to the rest of you that had treated us with respect...i know this is a football forum...but i can not be quiet about this stuff...

HASTA VENCER
HASTA MORIR

Can some of you new people from South America tell me if Saprissa are any good.

Gonzul Morado: I wouldn't worry about these comments. Supporters from other teams sing songs about the poverty of Scousers to try and annoy the Liverpool fans.

I don´t know too much about it but they play (and won) a tournament with some very good mexicans teams (CONCACAF´s champions league or equivalent) so I believe they have some very good players.

by **columbia** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:09 pm

Red black white wrote:
columbia wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
columbia wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:I would like to see how Liverpool react playing in Morumbi, SP, Brazil, against us...

Can you feel the pression ?!?

São Paulo FC have more than 13 million supporters.

we are the third most supported club in the world.

You are definitively a joker!!!

Liverpool ?! Come on... may be the 54th position...

i beg your pardon, third most in europe. Still more fans then sao paulo though

EURO CHAMPS ARE BRITAIN'S BEST SUPPORTED CLUB
Mark Platt 19 July 2005
Liverpool are now considered to be the best supported British club across the world, according to a leading sports consultants company.
A report published today by German-based Sport+Markt AG has revealed that following the recent Champion League success our worldwide fan base has increased by 10 million.

It goes on to say that we can now boast 18 million supporters across the world, a figure bettered only by Real Madrid (32 million) and Barcelona (23 million) in Europe.

Sport+Markt AG's top nine best supported European clubs

1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. LIVERPOOL
4. Juventus
5. Milan
6. Manchester United
7. Arsenal
8. Bayern Munich
9. Chelsea

Really man? 10 million? That's quite a lot. However, I don't think this number represents "loyal" supporters. I might be wrong, but it's just quite difficult to belive that only one conquest can increse this much the number of supporters.

Setting another example, São Paulo before nineties had the seventh biggest fan base in Brazil. However, after 1991, 1992 and 1993 (when São Paulo won EVERYTHING, including the World Club Championships 92 and 93) the fan base became the third in Brazil. However, it wasn't quick...it was a whole generation that grew up watching São Paulo conquests.

You may know, World Club Championship is every important in South America, and I believe that São Paulo fan base in Brazil will have another boost if we win it for the third time (considering that we have already won Libertadores Cup this year - the Champion's League for South America).

yes i agree that the 10 million supporters who we gained after winning the champions league arent really supporters, but i suppose every successful football club has its glory supporters. The figures dont really suprise me because its the biggest club competition in the world in terms of the amount of people that watch it. Its televised in basically every country in the world.

by **Bandeirante_SPFC** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:19 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
MilitiaRusher wrote:Look, you Sao Paulo fan. Don't be so paranoid over this mickey mouse tournament because as far as we are concerned, we have many other higher priority games to worry about. So please, leave your comments on how Sao Paulo are better then us, better then this, better then that, by yourself.

If we win, then thats another trophy. If we don't, I won't give half a sh!te, unless we manage to come back without any adverse effects. Just think about it, I would rather obtain full points during the 4 game Christmas schedule rather then winning this mickey mouse cup.

Given your team's pedigree, I wouldn't be surprised if you lot are THAT desperate to win this cup.

2 Intercontinental Cups
3 Libertadores Cups
3 Brazilian Championships
1 Conmebol Cup
1 Conmebol Supercup
2 South American Recups
21 Paulista Championships
... and more more more...

and yours ?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/lfc_story/honours/

Respectable!

Our cabinet...

http://www.saopaulofc.net/1NOVO2.asp?PLC_map_001_c=03.01.05

Now review the strength of the opposition you faced when winning these cups.

Dou you know any ?

by **.SPFC.MKTZ** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:21 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:Now review the strength of the opposition you faced when winning these cups.

You know..before the goes to Europe, the Brazilian stars spend some time in Brazil..Did you forget it? and there are many good players here that you don't know..

Of course the best players finish the season here and goes to Europe..but we always have new good players..just like any other country..

Brazilian teams are not weak..even without your best players, which goes to europe..

Sao Paulo, for example, plays 6 times against Real Madrid in his history, and won 4 (lose the 2 others)

What i can say is that spain, italy and germany knows the brazilian players better than you, englishs...but not so much..

by **.SPFC.MKTZ** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:53 pm

REINA: WE WANT TO WIN AND WE CAN WIN

Pepe Reina believes Liverpool can send a message out to the rest of the footballing world if they are crowned the best team on the planet over the next few days.
Victory over Deportivo Saprissa in Yokohama tomorrow will take Rafa Benitez's side into Sunday's final, where they will stand just one game away from becoming world champions for the first time in their history.

Reina admits it's an unusual experience to be playing so far away from home in the middle of the domestic campaign, but he insists it's a competition the Reds are determined to win.

He told Liverpoolfc.tv: "It is an important competition for us. We want to win it and we can win it.

"The team is doing very well at the moment and we want to carry that on in Japan. We are going to take this tournament very seriously because there's another title on offer and if we can win it then it'll be our second trophy already this season and our third this year.

"The manager will prepare us properly for the games and, although we didn't know too much about the other teams before we travelled out here, I'm sure we'll be well briefed before kick-off."

Striker Djibril Cisse is desperate to be involved in first team action tomorrow having had to be content with a place on the substitute's bench over recent weeks.

Just fourteen months after picking up an injury which could have wrecked his career, the French ace is now hoping to end 2005 with another winners medal.

Cisse said: "Football can change so quickly. Just over one year ago I had a bad injury and this weekend I could be celebrating winning another medal after the Champions League and Super Cup victories.

"We're all really excited about this tournament. We're happy to be here and we'll do our best to win it."

Link here

Benitez on... the World Club Championship

"For me it is a challenge. I want to win games and win trophies. As a manager, the players are more important than you. You can make all the plans, but it is up to them to win. I will prepare them as best as I can for the tournament and hopefully we will be successful. This is a very big tournament and we are going to try and do our best to win it. It deserves to be a big tournament with extremely tough qualification: how else would you measure the best? Whoever wins will be worthy champions. It's a beautiful trophy and we want to bring it back to Anfield.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N150836051214-0708.htm
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Are you sure Liverpool don't take it seriously??

You just need to admit

by **columbia** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:58 pm

.SPFC.MKTZ wrote:REINA: WE WANT TO WIN AND WE CAN WIN

Pepe Reina believes Liverpool can send a message out to the rest of the footballing world if they are crowned the best team on the planet over the next few days.
Victory over Deportivo Saprissa in Yokohama tomorrow will take Rafa Benitez's side into Sunday's final, where they will stand just one game away from becoming world champions for the first time in their history.

Reina admits it's an unusual experience to be playing so far away from home in the middle of the domestic campaign, but he insists it's a competition the Reds are determined to win.

He told Liverpoolfc.tv: "It is an important competition for us. We want to win it and we can win it.

"The team is doing very well at the moment and we want to carry that on in Japan. We are going to take this tournament very seriously because there's another title on offer and if we can win it then it'll be our second trophy already this season and our third this year.

"The manager will prepare us properly for the games and, although we didn't know too much about the other teams before we travelled out here, I'm sure we'll be well briefed before kick-off."

Striker Djibril Cisse is desperate to be involved in first team action tomorrow having had to be content with a place on the substitute's bench over recent weeks.

Just fourteen months after picking up an injury which could have wrecked his career, the French ace is now hoping to end 2005 with another winners medal.

Cisse said: "Football can change so quickly. Just over one year ago I had a bad injury and this weekend I could be celebrating winning another medal after the Champions League and Super Cup victories.

"We're all really excited about this tournament. We're happy to be here and we'll do our best to win it."

Link here

Benitez on... the World Club Championship

"For me it is a challenge. I want to win games and win trophies. As a manager, the players are more important than you. You can make all the plans, but it is up to them to win. I will prepare them as best as I can for the tournament and hopefully we will be successful. This is a very big tournament and we are going to try and do our best to win it. It deserves to be a big tournament with extremely tough qualification: how else would you measure the best? Whoever wins will be worthy champions. It's a beautiful trophy and we want to bring it back to Anfield.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N150836051214-0708.htm
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? ?
Are you sure Liverpool don't take it seriously??
You just need to admit

He's hardly gonna say the competition is pointless and a waste of time now is he?

by **bcv** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:00 pm

english soccer is the best ! brasil sux :bowdown

by **zarababe** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:13 pm

Quote Benitez :

"It would be fantastic for me to be manager of the world champions, but I am not thinking about it.We will have confidence and strength. I think we can beat anyone."

That sounds awesome - Come on the Reds

by **drummerphil** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:22 pm

Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
columbia wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:Only saw the result 3-2 for Sao Paulo , did anybody see the game , sounds like Sao Paulo might have struggled ?

yeh they were lucky, looked a pretty average team to me. I think they possibly would be relegated if they played in the premiership.

I´m not sure but in 2004 we made a friendly against Bolton. The game was in England.

Score:

São Paulo 4 - 1 Bolton

feck me you must be world class then...........

:laugh

which part of we dont give a flying fúck dont you understand

by **Bandeirante_SPFC** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:23 pm

drummerphil wrote:
Bandeirante_SPFC wrote:
columbia wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:Only saw the result 3-2 for Sao Paulo , did anybody see the game , sounds like Sao Paulo might have struggled ?

yeh they were lucky, looked a pretty average team to me. I think they possibly would be relegated if they played in the premiership.

I´m not sure but in 2004 we made a friendly against Bolton. The game was in England.

Score:

São Paulo 4 - 1 Bolton

feck me you must be world class then...........

:laugh

which part of we dont give a flying fúck dont you understand

Correction

The game between São Paulo and Bolton was in 2003.
And the score was:

São Paulo 6 : 3 Bolton

This Bolton is a sh$%!!!

http://www.aleweb.com.br/3color/blog/2003_11_01_arquivo.asp

The text is in portuguese.

by **LiverPum** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:51 pm

stratovariusrlz wrote:What would be the European Clubs without the south american players??? The english players are disgusting! liverpool is only winning now because of morientes, luis garcia, cisse... England has only 1 thing to be proud.... you created soccer. We added soccer touch of perfection. The English team will be beaten by Equador in the World Cup !

get ready for soccer leassons sunday.... amoroso, cicinho and junior will give it for you...

Don't forget about our goalkeeper, Ceni, who scored 20 goals in current season while "The Giant" Crouch, their striker, scored 2 in 23 matches...

Vai São Paulo! :hearts

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