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el_stinger wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:Viduka's role can easily be thwarted, put 2 men on him.

El Stinger i havent read many of your posts on any other issue so i'm not sure whether you constantly post bizarre remarks, but unless you've got a world class player put 2 men on anyone and they will struggle to get involved.
I dont know what Viduka is like for Australia nor do i actually care, but to say he is sh@te cos if you put 2 men on him he struggles is stupid beyong comprehension.
Not meaning to insult ye but think about it.
FWIW i think Viduka is quite a lazy player when i have seen him, but on his day can be a very strong awkward forward.
His goalscoring record for Australia obviously isn't good enough, but if 2 men are marking him then its making space for other players.

That was an example of what he did during the Uruguay game. He is constantly used up front as a lone striker, and is easily thwarted by putting 2 blokes on him. Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position. That was what I was referring to in my previous posts.

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:Viduka's role can easily be thwarted, put 2 men on him.

El Stinger i havent read many of your posts on any other issue so i'm not sure whether you constantly post bizarre remarks, but unless you've got a world class player put 2 men on anyone and they will struggle to get involved.
I dont know what Viduka is like for Australia nor do i actually care, but to say he is sh@te cos if you put 2 men on him he struggles is stupid beyong comprehension.
Not meaning to insult ye but think about it.
FWIW i think Viduka is quite a lazy player when i have seen him, but on his day can be a very strong awkward forward.
His goalscoring record for Australia obviously isn't good enough, but if 2 men are marking him then its making space for other players.

That was an example of what he did during the Uruguay game. He is constantly used up front as a lone striker, and is easily thwarted by putting 2 blokes on him. Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position. That was what I was referring to in my previous posts.

Your post here seems to contradict everythink you have said previously in this thread.
As i said i am not really bothered about Viduka...only Kewell getting back fit, but from reading the general remarks on this thread from others....he is doing the job the manager asks of him...holding the ball up, and allowing others more space.
I also think you are being harsh based on the team Australia were facing and the fact that it was away in a hostile atmosphere.
I think its a good result that gives Australia every chance to make the finals.

el_stinger wrote:Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position.

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position.

That statement seems to me that you can see its not his fault.

Whereas on all of the other posts you have said he was sh@te.

a contradiction in terms 

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position.

That statement seems to me that you can see its not his fault.

Whereas on all of the other posts you have said he was sh@te.

laza wrote:

LFC #1 wrote:

Raoul wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:Uraguay have some decent players and playing anywhere in south america is difficult so the 1-0 scoreline is not too bad.
I agree about it being a joke the aussies having to playoff against south american opposition.
It makes no sense, it wont happen next time as they are in the asian section i think, but its a bit of a joke that the african and central american sides are guaranteed positions in the world cup.
U.S.A and Mexico's qualifiers are almost as easy as the aussies imo.

Yes the bloody Aussies got into Asia.  Us poor Kiwis look on in envy, its been a long-held dream for a lot of football fans in New Zealand to join Asia, just as Australia have done.  Imagine actually playing regular football to a reasonable level.

I live in hope (but not a lot) for the day when Asia gets split in half, west and east, and East Asia picks up Oceania.  I'm not sure if this'll be good or bad for the island nations, but football in NZ is crying out for a move like this.  We'll never progress without it I'm afraid.  I mean, look at what Uruguay are achieving with only 3 1/2 million people - and why?  It is not just a great history, and an absolute love of the game, though those things of course help.  It's because they REGULARLY play against some of the best teams in the world.

Go Uruguay!

Football in NZ is going down the pan mate, and this move by Australia is just going to make things worse. In all fairness though, Australia was always superior in Oceania, and they had to move to progress the sport in Australia.

Rugby and to a lesser exteny Rugby League are by far the dominat football codes, while Football has been completely forgotten about.

Oh well at least the All Blacks are doing well, go Uruguay! 

Well i think Kiwis should come along, just like the A-league we need someone to fill the bottom of the ladder and they do the job perfectly

Yeah yeah yeah, thankfully I'm working in Asia now, and don't have to drag myself down to watch the Knights week after week...  Surprised you didn't bring up Vanuatu!



You are wrong about league being a dominant sport though, more Kiwis play football then any other sport, including rugby - though rugby is the sport upon which our national pride rests.

Back to Kewell, lets hope he gets a full game again and gets some match fitness for Liverpool!

Raoul wrote:

laza wrote:

LFC #1 wrote:

Raoul wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:Uraguay have some decent players and playing anywhere in south america is difficult so the 1-0 scoreline is not too bad.
I agree about it being a joke the aussies having to playoff against south american opposition.
It makes no sense, it wont happen next time as they are in the asian section i think, but its a bit of a joke that the african and central american sides are guaranteed positions in the world cup.
U.S.A and Mexico's qualifiers are almost as easy as the aussies imo.

Yes the bloody Aussies got into Asia.  Us poor Kiwis look on in envy, its been a long-held dream for a lot of football fans in New Zealand to join Asia, just as Australia have done.  Imagine actually playing regular football to a reasonable level.

I live in hope (but not a lot) for the day when Asia gets split in half, west and east, and East Asia picks up Oceania.  I'm not sure if this'll be good or bad for the island nations, but football in NZ is crying out for a move like this.  We'll never progress without it I'm afraid.  I mean, look at what Uruguay are achieving with only 3 1/2 million people - and why?  It is not just a great history, and an absolute love of the game, though those things of course help.  It's because they REGULARLY play against some of the best teams in the world.

Go Uruguay!

Football in NZ is going down the pan mate, and this move by Australia is just going to make things worse. In all fairness though, Australia was always superior in Oceania, and they had to move to progress the sport in Australia.

Rugby and to a lesser exteny Rugby League are by far the dominat football codes, while Football has been completely forgotten about.

Oh well at least the All Blacks are doing well, go Uruguay! 

Well i think Kiwis should come along, just like the A-league we need someone to fill the bottom of the ladder and they do the job perfectly

Yeah yeah yeah, thankfully I'm working in Asia now, and don't have to drag myself down to watch the Knights week after week...  Surprised you didn't bring up Vanuatu!



You are wrong about league being a dominant sport though, more Kiwis play football then any other sport, including rugby - though rugby is the sport upon which our national pride rests.

Back to Kewell, lets hope he gets a full game again and gets some match fitness for Liverpool!

Judge wrote:

Paul C wrote:I think the comment 'he played ok' sums Kewell up quite well cos thats the best he's done for us since he arrived

I really wish he would show his true colours cos I was so excited when he first joined but he's frustrating the s.*i*e out of me, I think he'll be leavin at the end of the season when Gonzalez and Simao arrive, only problem is that we won't get anythin for him 

dont worry paul, we can have a barbi and a couple of cans of swan in his honour 

i bet he got a good deal on his car insurance from ''Shiela's Wheels'' 

Do people actually drink Swan?? 

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position.

That statement seems to me that you can see its not his fault.

Whereas on all of the other posts you have said he was sh@te.

A lot of world class International players can break free of a double team sometimes. Viduka can't yet he is constantly played in this position. 3 coaches passed, and he is still a lone striker, why?

I'm not really up on the Australian national team but from what your telling me if 3 coaches have played with just the 1 up front (including one as well respected as Hiddink then maybe they feel the midfield wouldnt be strong enough with just 4 players.
But to blame Viduka for not scoring goals when he has 2 markers in international football is a bit harsh imo.

el_stinger wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:

Ace Ventura wrote:

el_stinger wrote:Of course he is going to have sh1t matches if he is constantly put into this position.

That statement seems to me that you can see its not his fault.

Whereas on all of the other posts you have said he was sh@te.

A lot of world class International players can break free of a double team sometimes. Viduka can't yet he is constantly played in this position. 3 coaches passed, and he is still a lone striker, why?

I'm not really up on the Australian national team but from what your telling me if 3 coaches have played with just the 1 up front (including one as well respected as Hiddink then maybe they feel the midfield wouldnt be strong enough with just 4 players.
But to blame Viduka for not scoring goals when he has 2 markers in international football is a bit harsh imo.

He's there to do a job. If for the last 6 years he has had 2 markers on him, I don't understand why he can't open his mouth and say something. But that's only one example, and we have been focusing solely on this one aspect of his game. I can go on and on about other areas as well, and people can pick at my posts, but they are still yet to show me why Viduka should be captain over Harry, and better yet, why he should still be in the squad.

Lionheart wrote:

Judge wrote:

Paul C wrote:I think the comment 'he played ok' sums Kewell up quite well cos thats the best he's done for us since he arrived

I really wish he would show his true colours cos I was so excited when he first joined but he's frustrating the s.*i*e out of me, I think he'll be leavin at the end of the season when Gonzalez and Simao arrive, only problem is that we won't get anythin for him 

dont worry paul, we can have a barbi and a couple of cans of swan in his honour 

i bet he got a good deal on his car insurance from ''Shiela's Wheels'' 

Do people actually drink Swan?? 

only when in australia cobba