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by **zarababe** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:24 am

The worst time to come on the forum .. is on days when the "team has performed badly ... because of sh*t threads like these :angry:

by **Paul C** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:44 am

Agreed Zara, yeah ok we lost to the shit3 but the season is about more games than just Man U and Everton, we need to keep the team spirit and get off players backs, it's not just Garcia but 10 other players in the team :angry:

by **Dalglish** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:46 am

I was trying to say pretty much the samething Paul but you know how hard it is to be pragmatic when we have suffered a loss of any kind never mind against the Mancs !!!

Woof woof tried to drown his sorrows and went off on one. he later apologised and said he was frustrated.

by **LFC #1** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:03 am

Dalglish wrote:Why is it when we sufer a loss as we did today that we have to find a villian or two to somehow explain away what was a poor TEAM performance ?

couldn't agree more Ian, to try and make scapegoats is unfair when the whole team put in a less than average performance.

Yes Dudek, should have saved the Rooney goal - but it's not his fault we lost the match, we simply weren't good enough on the day to get an equaliser.

On Garcia, I think he played OK against Manure, but he definately needs to realise he is playing in England now and that he needs to work on the basics of his game and his physical attributes.

by **Dalglish** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:22 am

Thanks Scott. Seems to me that perspective and rationale go out the window when we lose. i suppose its the nature of the beast but a few on here last night showed how little they think and how much they react

by **LFC #1** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:29 am

I think thats natural sometimes, especially if you have had a few.

by **Fowler_E7** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:29 am

bigmick wrote:I thought Garcia was actually OK today. To anyone who is looking for him to put in crunching tackles though, let me tell you it'll be a long wait. He's not that type of player.
I firmly believe however that in time (probably next season) he will be a fantastic player for us, I really do.

agree with you ther mick. Even when garcia has a bad game he still shows glimpses of great skill and ability, i reckon this time next year we will have a great player on our hands. He needs to stop wasting possesion though, and cut down on the spectacular efforts also, when he did that volley late on in the game Baros was unmarked in the box.

by **Red_Si** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:42 am

I really think Baros has had enough of Garcia - he was screaming at him on several occassions on saturday.

by **109-1105722616** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:17 pm

i seen gerrard shaking his head at garcia as well, but i think gerrard has had enough of liverpool

by **amus** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:19 pm

morentes was fab. he did wicked for us, he just couldnt score. poor thing.

by **A.B.** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:05 pm

marklfc wrote:i seen gerrard shaking his head at garcia as well, but i think gerrard has had enough of liverpool

I've had enough of Gerrard's comments. First he put extreme amount of pressure on himself and the club before the Olympiacos game then he said that we should play good against Man Utd, he himself couldn't put a pass together.

by **zarababe** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:47 pm

true A.B.. the team and Garcia will get better.. and more consistent .. then watch this team fly... and Gerrard's p*ssin me off too..

by **Red_Si** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:18 pm

If Garcia has passed to Morientes, instead of having his own speculative shot charged down - the whole game would have been different.

He is a liability against the big teams. He has only come good against lower opposition, who we could have beaten without him, anyway.

by **SouthernScouser** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:41 pm

Garcia was very frustrating against the Scum - but to start calling for his head and saying he is B*llocks etc etc is a bit steep.
As other people have said - football is a team game - so we can't label all the blame for the defeat with him or Dudek.
I for one think he's got the potential to be an extremely deadly player in the PL - I just hope Rafa can get the best out of him and he doesn't end up another failed statstic who promised so much but once again failed to deliver.
Let's give him some more time.
On a further note against the Scum - I was more concerned with some of the other players Performances (especially in midfield)
Gerrard & Hamman were made to look ordinary (and that doesn't happen very often)
Carra was ok - but you can see the difference in how good he is when at Centre back instead of a right back
He never knows how to come forward or cross the ball - it's always side to side
Whereas - at Centreback - he's fully in control - and plays the simple ball - a totally different player
The only one who looked like scoring for me was Riise - and he was fouled out the game !
All in all - a poor performance
Perhaps it should have been a draw (Jerzy's mistake) - but we didn't deserve one.

by **stmichael** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:47 pm

I have been a critic of Garcia this season. I have even advocated dropping him from the side. In a 4-4-2 system, presuming baros and morientes are going to be the front two, i just can't see him fitting into the system. he is not a wide right midfield player. to me, for the obvious talent the guy has, his insistence on showboating and questionable application is so frustrating for fans at times.

Garcia played one ball against the scum that he should try more often. Remember the one he played over the defence from about 25 yards out that Morientes got a head to in the first half? If he does that more with Morientes sniffing around in the box, there'll be a few extra goals scored for us. He certainly gets in the positions. I think he just gets a rush of blood to the head. With some of the real good chances he's missed this season, he could be on 10 goals already. Give him time, he'll come good. Nunez is improving too. The crossing is coming on quite well.

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