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£30m is far too much for Lallana but I suspect Southampton know that themselves, they are probably asking for £30m in the hope that we'll think they are doing us a favour if they let us have him for £20m-£25m.

Would you want Fernando Torres back in Liverpool colors? I would. I miss him.

"At Liverpool, I had almost everything but titles," added Torres. "I felt like a king but the team was falling apart. The directors had sold [Javier] Mascherano to Barca, then Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid without investing any of the money to compensate for the departure of these two key players.

"I was 27, I wanted to know what it was like to lift the Champions League and I had the feeling it was not going to happen with the Reds. Liverpool then was in full transition, the club was being sold and in that case, unless you are Manchester City or PSG, it can be a long road before you are again competitive.

"I did not have the time to wait. One day, Steven Gerrard came to say to me: Fernando, now, you have to think of yourself. Do what you have to do. When I went to tell him that I was going to accept the Chelsea offer, it destroyed him.

"Announcing my departure from Liverpool to Gerrard was one of the most difficult moments of my career. He was my best teammate and I am not sure of finding another like him in the future. We were made for each other."

cardiff-red » Tue May 27, 2014 3:01 pm wrote:Breaking News: Barcelona's Alexis Sanchez has agreed personal terms with Juventus. {Sky Italy}

Looks like he isn't going anywhere. Was pretty excited we were after him, but highly unlikely now......... 

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9328993/transfer-news-barcelona-say-alexis-sanchez-is-not-for-sale-after-juventus-link

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 28, 2014 10:07 pm wrote:£30m is far too much for Lallana but I suspect Southampton know that themselves, they are probably asking for £30m in the hope that we'll think they are doing us a favour if they let us have him for £20m-£25m.

Financially, Southampton are quite sound, so no real need for them to sell. They will be happy to sit tight for now and let Lallana go to the World Cup and if he shines, will attract more interest and allow them to whip up an auction and command a higher price. With the home grown rule, I can see the likes of a City getting involved at some stage.

those figures quoted for lallana are ridiculous, he isnt worth any more than £15mil and a big price tag will only add to the pressure of failure.
if we need to persist then we can offer the cash plus either lucas or allen and if they dont accept that then leave him where he is 

maypaxvobiscum » Thu May 29, 2014 1:10 am wrote:Would you want Fernando Torres back in Liverpool colors? I would. I miss him.

"At Liverpool, I had almost everything but titles," added Torres. "I felt like a king but the team was falling apart. The directors had sold [Javier] Mascherano to Barca, then Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid without investing any of the money to compensate for the departure of these two key players.

"I was 27, I wanted to know what it was like to lift the Champions League and I had the feeling it was not going to happen with the Reds. Liverpool then was in full transition, the club was being sold and in that case, unless you are Manchester City or PSG, it can be a long road before you are again competitive.

"I did not have the time to wait. One day, Steven Gerrard came to say to me: Fernando, now, you have to think of yourself. Do what you have to do. When I went to tell him that I was going to accept the Chelsea offer, it destroyed him.

"Announcing my departure from Liverpool to Gerrard was one of the most difficult moments of my career. He was my best teammate and I am not sure of finding another like him in the future. We were made for each other."

Torres was a great player for us but I don't see the point in the club looking backwards when trying to move forward.
The 2014 version of Fernando Torres isn't the same player as the 2007 version.

Doeboy » Thu May 29, 2014 6:29 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 28, 2014 10:07 pm wrote:£30m is far too much for Lallana but I suspect Southampton know that themselves, they are probably asking for £30m in the hope that we'll think they are doing us a favour if they let us have him for £20m-£25m.

Financially, Southampton are quite sound, so no real need for them to sell. They will be happy to sit tight for now and let Lallana go to the World Cup and if he shines, will attract more interest and allow them to whip up an auction and command a higher price. With the home grown rule, I can see the likes of a City getting involved at some stage.

If that's their plan then you can't blame them I suppose, if we were in their shoes we'd be trying to get the best possible price for the player as well.
Southampton's problem though is for the money they are asking for Lallana clubs can go and sign Draxler and Rativic

On Lallana

Now that Mauricio Pochettino has been installed as the new spurs mgr I'd be surprised if Lallana didn't suddenly become their main target this summer.

We have apparently bid £16million + Suso for Alberto Moreno. Too much IMO. I'm still not convinced that we need a new left back either.

Apparently, the Emre Can deal is being stalled because of his wage demands. I'm certain that he's on a small wage at Leverkusen, so how much could he possibly be asking? What is it with these kids these days anyway? Are they expecting to start with a 100k salary from the off? You got to prove yourself first lad.

Also, Swansea have signed Fabianski, and I doubt that he went there to be a back-up again, so does that mean that Vorm might be on his way (to us)?

That Moreno does look good but I'm not sure about Suso being part of any potential deal. The club probably feel though that in Coutinho they have someone who is similar in age/style to Suso but better. I'm glad we are being linked with a quality attacking fullback though.
I'm rapidly going off the idea of signing Lallana, we had a lot of weaknesses in our side last season but our front line wasn't one of them, instead of spending £20m-£30m on an AM I'd rather see us spend that type of money on a dominant Yaya Toure style CM/DM.
If we strengthen the area's behind our attack and give our front 4 a proper platform to work from instead of a midfield that turns up twice a month and a defence that pi$$es goals (not to mention a keeper glued to his line) then I think Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho and Ibe can do even more damage next season.
We aren't Man City or Chelsea, we haven't got unlimited resources so we need to reinforce the area's of the team that really need it. It's pointless going out and doing the same thing next season (ie scoring loads of goals but conceding loads too) so we need to strengthen the midfield and defence.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 29, 2014 10:47 am wrote:That Moreno does look good but I'm not sure about Suso being part of any potential deal. The club probably feel though that in Coutinho they have someone who is similar in age/style to Suso but better. I'm glad we are being linked with a quality attacking fullback though.
I'm rapidly going off the idea of signing Lallana, we had a lot of weaknesses in our side last season but our front line wasn't one of them, instead of spending £20m-£30m on an AM I'd rather see us spend that type of money on a dominant Yaya Toure style CM/DM.
If we strengthen the area's behind our attack and give our front 4 a proper platform to work from instead of a midfield that turns up twice a month and a defence that pi$$es goals (not to mention a keeper glued to his line) then I think Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho and Ibe can do even more damage next season.
We aren't Man City or Chelsea, we haven't got unlimited resources so we need to reinforce the area's of the team that really need it. It's pointless going out and doing the same thing next season (ie scoring loads of goals but conceding loads too) so we need to strengthen the midfield and defence.

Lallana or whoever, I think we do need some depth upfront. Many times last season we had nothing on the bench to change a game. We started with our best attackers and if that didn't work, we relied on Moses, Aspas and the like. We can't have that again, with more games, against better opposition in the CL. Ibe will help, as would Suso I suppose, but we need a first team ready forward, which might be Lallana or Konoplankya or even both!

This is the rumor thread after all 

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Liverpool have been backed into evens to sign Southampton striker Rickie Lambert this summer following a string of bets this morning. The England forward is 16/1to follow former manager Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham and 10/1to join West Ham.

mkingdom » Thu May 29, 2014 11:35 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 29, 2014 10:47 am wrote:That Moreno does look good but I'm not sure about Suso being part of any potential deal. The club probably feel though that in Coutinho they have someone who is similar in age/style to Suso but better. I'm glad we are being linked with a quality attacking fullback though.
I'm rapidly going off the idea of signing Lallana, we had a lot of weaknesses in our side last season but our front line wasn't one of them, instead of spending £20m-£30m on an AM I'd rather see us spend that type of money on a dominant Yaya Toure style CM/DM.
If we strengthen the area's behind our attack and give our front 4 a proper platform to work from instead of a midfield that turns up twice a month and a defence that pi$$es goals (not to mention a keeper glued to his line) then I think Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho and Ibe can do even more damage next season.
We aren't Man City or Chelsea, we haven't got unlimited resources so we need to reinforce the area's of the team that really need it. It's pointless going out and doing the same thing next season (ie scoring loads of goals but conceding loads too) so we need to strengthen the midfield and defence.

Lallana or whoever, I think we do need some depth upfront. Many times last season we had nothing on the bench to change a game. We started with our best attackers and if that didn't work, we relied on Moses, Aspas and the like. We can't have that again, with more games, against better opposition in the CL. Ibe will help, as would Suso I suppose, but we need a first team ready forward, which might be Lallana or Konoplankya or even both!

Not for me mate, I'd maybe bring in a back up striker like Remy but that's all I would do in terms of strengthening the forward line. With Brendan's 4-3-3 system we only have 3 or at the very most 4 (when Coutinho plays in midfield) places in our starting line up for attacking players and that would mean we'd have Suarez, Sterling, Sturridge, Coutinho, Ibe and Remy vying for just 3/4 places, that's more than enough depth IMO especially when the midfield and defence are so far behind our attack in terms of development.
When the summer comes around every fan likes to see exciting attacking players being linked to their club and I'm no different but IMO we have to address the weaknesses in our team first.
I'd much rather see us spend decent money on CM/DM's, fullbacks etc who will actually be running around on the pitch than extra forwards who may struggle to get into the team.
If Suarez stays our frontline is good enough to compete with anything in England and in Europe, our midfield and defence is not.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 29, 2014 12:00 pm wrote:

mkingdom » Thu May 29, 2014 11:35 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 29, 2014 10:47 am wrote:That Moreno does look good but I'm not sure about Suso being part of any potential deal. The club probably feel though that in Coutinho they have someone who is similar in age/style to Suso but better. I'm glad we are being linked with a quality attacking fullback though.
I'm rapidly going off the idea of signing Lallana, we had a lot of weaknesses in our side last season but our front line wasn't one of them, instead of spending £20m-£30m on an AM I'd rather see us spend that type of money on a dominant Yaya Toure style CM/DM.
If we strengthen the area's behind our attack and give our front 4 a proper platform to work from instead of a midfield that turns up twice a month and a defence that pi$$es goals (not to mention a keeper glued to his line) then I think Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho and Ibe can do even more damage next season.
We aren't Man City or Chelsea, we haven't got unlimited resources so we need to reinforce the area's of the team that really need it. It's pointless going out and doing the same thing next season (ie scoring loads of goals but conceding loads too) so we need to strengthen the midfield and defence.

Lallana or whoever, I think we do need some depth upfront. Many times last season we had nothing on the bench to change a game. We started with our best attackers and if that didn't work, we relied on Moses, Aspas and the like. We can't have that again, with more games, against better opposition in the CL. Ibe will help, as would Suso I suppose, but we need a first team ready forward, which might be Lallana or Konoplankya or even both!

Not for me mate, I'd maybe bring in a back up striker like Remy but that's all I would do in terms of strengthening the forward line. With Brendan's 4-3-3 system we only have 3 or at the very most 4 (when Coutinho plays in midfield) places in our starting line up for attacking players and that would mean we'd have Suarez, Sterling, Sturridge, Coutinho, Ibe and Remy vying for just 3/4 places, that's more than enough depth IMO especially when the midfield and defence are so far behind our attack in terms of development.
When the summer comes around every fan likes to see exciting attacking players being linked to their club and I'm no different but IMO we have to address the weaknesses in our team first.
I'd much rather see us spend decent money on CM/DM's, fullbacks etc who will actually be running around on the pitch than extra forwards who may struggle to get into the team.
If Suarez stays our frontline is good enough to compete with anything in England and in Europe, our midfield and defence is not.

Sure, Remy would be an upgrade on Aspas and Moses. He just doesn't feel like a BR signing, I don't know why.

mkingdom » Thu May 29, 2014 12:35 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 29, 2014 10:47 am wrote:That Moreno does look good but I'm not sure about Suso being part of any potential deal. The club probably feel though that in Coutinho they have someone who is similar in age/style to Suso but better. I'm glad we are being linked with a quality attacking fullback though.
I'm rapidly going off the idea of signing Lallana, we had a lot of weaknesses in our side last season but our front line wasn't one of them, instead of spending £20m-£30m on an AM I'd rather see us spend that type of money on a dominant Yaya Toure style CM/DM.
If we strengthen the area's behind our attack and give our front 4 a proper platform to work from instead of a midfield that turns up twice a month and a defence that pi$$es goals (not to mention a keeper glued to his line) then I think Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho and Ibe can do even more damage next season.
We aren't Man City or Chelsea, we haven't got unlimited resources so we need to reinforce the area's of the team that really need it. It's pointless going out and doing the same thing next season (ie scoring loads of goals but conceding loads too) so we need to strengthen the midfield and defence.

Lallana or whoever, I think we do need some depth upfront. Many times last season we had nothing on the bench to change a game. We started with our best attackers and if that didn't work, we relied on Moses, Aspas and the like. We can't have that again, with more games, against better opposition in the CL. Ibe will help, as would Suso I suppose, but we need a first team ready forward, which might be Lallana or Konoplankya or even both!

I agree. We have a fantastic front line but we need to strengthen our depth because we'll be fighting on 4 fronts next season. We only have 4 attacking players and we only have Ibe as a back-up. We're not Chelsea or City I agree, but even Arsenal have 7 regular attacking players (Giroud, Cazorla, Ozil, Walcott, Podolski, Rosicky, Oxlade, not counting the likes of Sanogo and Bendner). Our key signings should be in midfield and in defense, I don't disagree with that, but we also need one or two attacking players as well.