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devaney » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:48 pm wrote:

Hustler 2 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:29 pm wrote:If the season finished today after 3 games we'd have won the league.

You really are adding some outstanding quality to a forum that has been desperately in need of a contribution such as yours for a very long time !!!!           

Even Stevie Wonder could see that was an attempt at humour!

StuYesThatStu » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:55 pm wrote:I think fifth or six is realistic. I can't see it being better than that.

Suarez is a fabulous player, Gerrard too, even at his age. Enrique is quality and Coutinho has alot about him... but beyond that I don't see any really good players.

Sturridge is ok and will do well in a good side, but he's nothing special for me, he has to many major weaknesses (reminds me a bit of Andy Cole) and the amount of times he should pass and doesn't is really starting to grate my nerves. Agger is another who is ok, as are Aspas and Lucas, but they aren't top players.

The rest of the team like Johnson, Skyrtel, Allen, Henderson are quite frankly embarrassments to the shirt in my opinion.

If we can sign a quality right back, centre half and forward thinking midfielder (similar to Yaya Toure (in style) aswell as getting Pepe back next season then we may be in business, but for me we are still at least four players away from anything like a realistic challenge, as promising as the start is.

Fk it why don't you go the hole hog and suggest that: Suarez is out of his tree and several cans short of a full crate. Gerrard is getting old and slow. Enrique makes too many defensive errors and his crosses are fkg dreadful. Courtinho has been shight for the last three matches. Fk knows how we're top of the league. It's not some of the players that are an embarrassment mate !!     I know you're only having a little wind up. Just thought I'd bite for a bit of sport. If you're being serious then you're being a twa.t 

Hustler 2 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:56 pm wrote:

devaney » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:48 pm wrote:

Hustler 2 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:29 pm wrote:If the season finished today after 3 games we'd have won the league.

You really are adding some outstanding quality to a forum that has been desperately in need of a contribution such as yours for a very long time !!!!           

Even Stevie Wonder could see that was an attempt at humour!

Don't give up the day job and who does Stevie Wonder play for anyway

My logics simple.

Enrique (who can't cross I'll give you that) Coutinho, Gerrard and Suarez are excellent.

They are the reason we finish in the top six or seven. If you replaced them with lesser players we'd be lucky to be mid table.

Where as any other player in that squad, you could replace with alot of players in the league and you wouldn't feel any difference.

Our good players are as good as anyones, its the rest of them that are letting the side down.

Far to many average players for me. Hence the reason we keep finishing in poor positions.

And by the way, just because we're top after three games doesn't make Henderson a world beater...

Unfortunately 

StuYesThatStu » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:55 pm wrote:I think fifth or six is realistic. I can't see it being better than that.

Suarez is a fabulous player, Gerrard too, even at his age. Enrique is quality and Coutinho has alot about him... but beyond that I don't see any really good players.

Sturridge is ok and will do well in a good side, but he's nothing special for me, he has to many major weaknesses (reminds me a bit of Andy Cole) and the amount of times he should pass and doesn't is really starting to grate my nerves. Agger is another who is ok, as are Aspas and Lucas, but they aren't top players.

The rest of the team like Johnson, Skyrtel, Allen, Henderson are quite frankly embarrassments to the shirt in my opinion.

If we can sign a quality right back, centre half and forward thinking midfielder (similar to Yaya Toure (in style) aswell as getting Pepe back next season then we may be in business, but for me we are still at least four players away from anything like a realistic challenge, as promising as the start is.

Some of that it a bit fair - but some is a bit ott possibly for effect.

I had my doubts about Sturridge but the only doubt i have now is fitness.

Embarrassments to the shirt is a bit harsh - i dont think Allen is good enough , Henderson will offer an option when we need energy on the park , Johnson isnt as bad as made out and Skrtel is an old fashioned deep lying CB who will just get rid. Pepe will never play for us again imo

Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:08 pm wrote:

StuYesThatStu » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:55 pm wrote:I think fifth or six is realistic. I can't see it being better than that.

Suarez is a fabulous player, Gerrard too, even at his age. Enrique is quality and Coutinho has alot about him... but beyond that I don't see any really good players.

Sturridge is ok and will do well in a good side, but he's nothing special for me, he has to many major weaknesses (reminds me a bit of Andy Cole) and the amount of times he should pass and doesn't is really starting to grate my nerves. Agger is another who is ok, as are Aspas and Lucas, but they aren't top players.

The rest of the team like Johnson, Skyrtel, Allen, Henderson are quite frankly embarrassments to the shirt in my opinion.

If we can sign a quality right back, centre half and forward thinking midfielder (similar to Yaya Toure (in style) aswell as getting Pepe back next season then we may be in business, but for me we are still at least four players away from anything like a realistic challenge, as promising as the start is.

Some of that it a bit fair - but some is a bit ott possibly for effect.

I had my doubts about Sturridge but the only doubt i have now is fitness.

Embarrassments to the shirt is a bit harsh - i dont think Allen is good enough , Henderson will offer an option when we need energy on the park , Johnson isnt as bad as made out and Skrtel is an old fashioned deep lying CB who will just get rid. Pepe will never play for us again imo

Great players do the right thing most of the time. If Messi shoots when he should have passed... you can gaurantee next time, he'll pass when he should. Sturridge will make the greedy decision more times than not. He's also slow with releasing the ball at times. He isn't a bad player though.

But he doesn't suprise me when he does the wrong thing. Which is never a good sign. Bit like when Heskey missed a sitter infront of the kop against the Mancs, you knew he'd miss... only obviously not that extent

Allen doesn't do anything. Good feet, but its square, he's static and he isn't physical or creative and doesn't score goals.

Henderson runs round alot... and er... well yeah.

Skrytel... exactly the point, defends on the edge of his own box... and he can't head a ball.

I think what you are suggesting in regards Sturridge was very relevant when he first signed and in his early games but seems to be more aware of players around him in the games this season and happy to do a lot of dirty work. At times he will need to be selfish - a lot of the best goalscorers do have a selfish streak in them. If he keeps up this goal scoring streak then he is going to do very well.

Allen - can't disagree with what you have said , Skrtel is about right but think Henderson shows a bit more than suggested - but I think that he will need to prove it this season.

He's definately ran more... but i think thats a novelty thing with him and I don't think it will last. For me he's too slow to play a pass and he's still to blinkered. I don't like selfish play. I like good play. Good play will result in more goals than selfishness over the course of a season.

There has been three times already this season he could have slipped someone in and has shot and missed, or ballsed it up.

Sometimes I also think he runs with it till he loses it too and never looks like he's goin to play a pass.

Watching him play for the under 21's he is such a different player , more confident and assured on the ball , always wanting to be involved in the play and get on the ball. Need to transfer that confidence to when he plays with a Liverpool shirt on and can see him doing pretty well. I think he will surprise if given the chance but still needs to add a lot more to his game.

All I can say is, he's 24, he's played for City and Chelsea and neither fancied him... I can see why...

If he was going to set the world alight, wouldn't he have done it by now?

Anyone can score a goal, Darren Bent got loads, it doesn't mean they're good enough to play for a top club though.

A word of advice Stu....
Responding to sh1t for brains like you are only encourages him to post more drivel.

I was talking about Henderson

But both him and Sturridge have big seasons ahead of them.

Sturridge left City on a free after turning a new contract down and Sturridge did well at Chelsea after his loan spell. Just fell out of favour at Chelsea despite scoring well there. As for his age - a number of strikers develop later - Drogba , Wright for example

Ill go all out and say 4th at the expense of ***** nil.

StuYesThatStu » Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:59 pm wrote:All I can say is, he's 24, he's played for City and Chelsea and neither fancied him... I can see why...

If he was going to set the world alight, wouldn't he have done it by now?

Anyone can score a goal, Darren Bent got loads, it doesn't mean they're good enough to play for a top club though.

he only turned 24 on sunday!
i dont know where this stuff about city not fancying him comes from, sturridge was the jewel in the crown of their academy and they were f##king livid when daniel refused to sign a new contract and let his current one run out. (to be fair to city a similar thing nearly happened to us with sterling and suso)
when he signed for chelsea he was signing for the richest club on the planet at a time when they were accumilating big names like they were going out of fashion, it was always going to be difficult for a young player to break into the first team in those circumstances, especially when chelsea liked to play quite direct to a big CF which isnt daniels game at all.
sturridge is the real deal, he probably made a bad move not staying with city when he was younger but if he had stayed there he might not be here now.
i bet if you offered him to both city and chelsea now they`d bite your hand off, he`s the best striker in the country on current form.