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Boxscarf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:21 am wrote:What I cannot understand is how the fourth official allegedly said to Rodgers that he had seen the handball, but because it was accidental, he felt the goal should have stood. Why isn't this fourth official and the referee getting their fair share of the blame? What annoys me even more is how Joe Allen's blatant handball on the line which cost Mansfield a stonewall penalty and a chance of getting a draw/win seems to have gone unnoticed because of the Luis Suarez incident. If I was Mr Radford I'd have been more upset with that then the Suarez incident.

I'm really getting tired of this nonsense surrounding Suarez, it's having an immeasurable impact on the reputation of our club and I don't like it, I feel there is a systematic campaign to force Luis Suarez out of England and out of our club. It's an absolute scandal and if I was Suarez, I'd be hoping to seal a switch to Real Madrid and La Liga, A league and a club that appreciates genuine top class talent.

What a load of tripe. You really do exceed yourself.

Joe Allen's handball was the definition of accidental handball, his arm was stationary firmly against the side of his body. The ball hit his arm - he made no movement toward the ball, ever heard of 'ball to hand'?

FFS, talk about the basics.

Whilst I don't think the Suarez handball was accidental, the referees did. The rules are clear if a referee deems a handball to be accidental the incident is ignored. Regardless of whether it stopped a goal scoring opportunity or caused one.

devaney » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:21 am wrote:

Boxscarf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:21 am wrote:What I cannot understand is how the fourth official allegedly said to Rodgers that he had seen the handball, but because it was accidental, he felt the goal should have stood. Why isn't this fourth official and the referee getting their fair share of the blame? What annoys me even more is how Joe Allen's blatant handball on the line which cost Mansfield a stonewall penalty and a chance of getting a draw/win seems to have gone unnoticed because of the Luis Suarez incident. If I was Mr Radford I'd have been more upset with that then the Suarez incident.

I'm really getting tired of this nonsense surrounding Suarez, it's having an immeasurable impact on the reputation of our club and I don't like it, I feel there is a systematic campaign to force Luis Suarez out of England and out of our club. It's an absolute scandal and if I was Suarez, I'd be hoping to seal a switch to Real Madrid and La Liga, A league and a club that appreciates genuine top class talent.

Bit dramatic mate !! So Luis has got a bit of history - I CAN LIVE WITH THAT !! Suarez since very early in the season and after the Stoke match has behaved impeccably and clearly wants to play for Liverpool. It was not long ago that RedHands and others aimed some heavyweight criticism at Luis and suggested that if an offer of around £30m was forthcoming we should let him go for a more rounded striker.

I would expect some of these idiotic comments from a hypocrite like Ferguson and not Liverpool supporters. They should (yourself excluded - I know you're a Luis fan) try supporting the one player we have who's attitude can't be questioned and his brilliance cannot be denied. Leave the castigation to the opposition. Most genius's are flawed. Luis makes the occasional mistake. I can live with that. Yesterday however was an exception. He reacted to a situation and the officials should have punished him for it. We now have our own supporters suggesting that we should offer a replay !! I didn't hear Moyes rushing forward saying Liverpool can have the three points because the linesman was inept. Even Mansfield's manager didn't criticise Suarez !!!!!

If you are also suggesting that when Joe Allen was on the line with his arms firmly tucked into his side and the ball hit his arm that that was a blatant penalty then we were watching a different game. Penalty possibly - blatant never.

You obviously haven't read Boxcarf's opinions on Suarez. This little hypocrit advocated selling Suarez because he doesn't like the controversy that follows him. And he was quite vociferous about it too, apparently Suarez's celebration against Mansfield the other night made him sick. Here in this post, he's changing his tune somewhat but it doesn't disguise the fact that this little Sky generation fan wants Suarez gone because of the overwhelming media witch hunt that surrounds Luis.

Kenny Kan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:58 pm wrote:

devaney » Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:21 am wrote:

Boxscarf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:21 am wrote:What I cannot understand is how the fourth official allegedly said to Rodgers that he had seen the handball, but because it was accidental, he felt the goal should have stood. Why isn't this fourth official and the referee getting their fair share of the blame? What annoys me even more is how Joe Allen's blatant handball on the line which cost Mansfield a stonewall penalty and a chance of getting a draw/win seems to have gone unnoticed because of the Luis Suarez incident. If I was Mr Radford I'd have been more upset with that then the Suarez incident.

I'm really getting tired of this nonsense surrounding Suarez, it's having an immeasurable impact on the reputation of our club and I don't like it, I feel there is a systematic campaign to force Luis Suarez out of England and out of our club. It's an absolute scandal and if I was Suarez, I'd be hoping to seal a switch to Real Madrid and La Liga, A league and a club that appreciates genuine top class talent.

Bit dramatic mate !! So Luis has got a bit of history - I CAN LIVE WITH THAT !! Suarez since very early in the season and after the Stoke match has behaved impeccably and clearly wants to play for Liverpool. It was not long ago that RedHands and others aimed some heavyweight criticism at Luis and suggested that if an offer of around £30m was forthcoming we should let him go for a more rounded striker.

I would expect some of these idiotic comments from a hypocrite like Ferguson and not Liverpool supporters. They should (yourself excluded - I know you're a Luis fan) try supporting the one player we have who's attitude can't be questioned and his brilliance cannot be denied. Leave the castigation to the opposition. Most genius's are flawed. Luis makes the occasional mistake. I can live with that. Yesterday however was an exception. He reacted to a situation and the officials should have punished him for it. We now have our own supporters suggesting that we should offer a replay !! I didn't hear Moyes rushing forward saying Liverpool can have the three points because the linesman was inept. Even Mansfield's manager didn't criticise Suarez !!!!!

If you are also suggesting that when Joe Allen was on the line with his arms firmly tucked into his side and the ball hit his arm that that was a blatant penalty then we were watching a different game. Penalty possibly - blatant never.

You obviously haven't read Boxcarf's opinions on Suarez. This little hypocrit advocated selling Suarez because he doesn't like the controversy that follows him. And he was quite vociferous about it too, apparently Suarez's celebration against Mansfield the other night made him sick. Here in this post, he's changing his tune somewhat but it doesn't disguise the fact that this little Sky generation fan wants Suarez gone because of the overwhelming media witch hunt that surrounds Luis.

Sorry I should have made my SARCASM clearer when I suggested that Boxscarf was a Luis fan !! These fkrs really do get on my t.its - Luis has scored 15 goals in the last 19 league matches and is a key reason why we are 8th  in the table rather than 18th !! He is a brilliant and highly entertaining asset. If I want to look for people that embarrass the club then I don't need to go much further than some of these clowns that have the audacity to call themselves supporters

Beginning to sound like a broken record, but you don't know what you've got till you lose it. The lad is a brilliant footballer and a joy to watch.

What is interesting about the latest 'incident' is it's timing, right before the game against the Mancs. I'm looking forward to hearing Rednose whine more  Heck, if you bothered to listen to Gary Neville, you'll know that Rednose has a 'win at all costs' mentality also.

If your life is centered around Media, then you'll know that there's not much you can do when the Media have an agenda.

Suarez kissed his arm when he scored that goal against mansfield? Is this the same arm/wrist kissing he's done 15 times already this season PRIOR to this game?

It's part of his celebration ritual. Some people are just looking for things to hit him with now. I've heard it all.

There are a few individuals on this forum who profess to be supporters but are clearly detractors.......they never appear to be as vocal when we win, except to persecute our top scorer of course, but are in much evidence when the result hasn't been particularly favourable. With regards to the Mansfield game, I felt it was blindly obvious Mr Champion had his script written about Luis before the game and was just waiting for any opportunity to get his "they think it's all over" quote down on record.It just sounded so rehearsed to be a flippant remark.

I'm not much into English media but I used to like Champion, being the main commentator in PES and FIFA. He'll never commentate on my FIFA games again!

I have had a chance to watch the clip with Champion's comments during the game.

Utter disgrace and should have be sacked on the spot.

You can rest assured that if that EVER happened during a Manure game they would be out of a job the following day.

I am amazed at the amount of clueless numpties that have high profile jobs as football competitors or journalists.

As one poster said earlier, all they are doing is creating drama and soap operas out of this great sport.



In the way we know about the Ingish media, we know their angle and their agenda against Luis and our club.

The finger needs to be pointed at our owners, its HIGH TIME the owners appoint a senior PR figure that will go to war on these fkers! 

Kenny Kan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:58 pm wrote:

You obviously haven't read Boxcarf's opinions on Suarez. This little hypocrit advocated selling Suarez because he doesn't like the controversy that follows him. And he was quite vociferous about it too, apparently Suarez's celebration against Mansfield the other night made him sick. Here in this post, he's changing his tune somewhat but it doesn't disguise the fact that this little Sky generation fan wants Suarez gone because of the overwhelming media witch hunt that surrounds Luis.

I'm a supporter of this club, not of any single footballer and if a footballer is bringing this great club's name into disrepute or is tarnishing the image of this club, then I will come out in defence of my club. Anyone would think Suarez is the life and soul of this club, the way you carry on, you'll be launching an online petition to have Anfield renamed the 'Luis Suarez Stadium' before too long. I like Suarez, but I don't like his reputation and it's that reputation which has cost us dear both in points on the field and has seen our image and reputation take a battering over the last two years. This lastest incident has only further added to be tarnished reputation of this club. It's not fair on this club to have its name and badge sullied by the actions of one individual.

supersub » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:28 pm wrote:There are a few individuals on this forum who profess to be supporters but are clearly detractors.......they never appear to be as vocal when we win, except to persecute our top scorer of course, but are in much evidence when the result hasn't been particularly favourable. With regards to the Mansfield game, I felt it was blindly obvious Mr Champion had his script written about Luis before the game and was just waiting for any opportunity to get his "they think it's all over" quote down on record.It just sounded so rehearsed to be a flippant remark.

If you are indirectly referring to me, it is evident that you do not read many, if any of my posts. Not everybody is an eternal ray of sunshine like yourself. I dare say, you aren't particularly bothered what happens to this club, you've got a permanent smile on your face. We could lose 10-0 and you'd still find endless amounts of positives while ignoring every single negative - life doesn't work like that fella, sunshiners are not realists and are often a tad bit mentally ill.

Boxscarf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:37 pm wrote:

Kenny Kan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:58 pm wrote:

You obviously haven't read Boxcarf's opinions on Suarez. This little hypocrit advocated selling Suarez because he doesn't like the controversy that follows him. And he was quite vociferous about it too, apparently Suarez's celebration against Mansfield the other night made him sick. Here in this post, he's changing his tune somewhat but it doesn't disguise the fact that this little Sky generation fan wants Suarez gone because of the overwhelming media witch hunt that surrounds Luis.

I'm a supporter of this club, not of any single footballer and if a footballer is bringing this great club's name into disrepute or is tarnishing the image of this club, then I will come out in defence of my club. Anyone would think Suarez is the life and soul of this club, the way you carry on, you'll be launching an online petition to have Anfield renamed the 'Luis Suarez Stadium' before too long. I like Suarez, but I don't like his reputation and it's that reputation which has cost us dear both in points on the field and has seen our image and reputation take a battering over the last two years. This lastest incident has only further added to be tarnished reputation of this club. It's not fair on this club to have its name and badge sullied by the actions of one individual.

So what should Suarez have done, should he have admitted to handling the ball. I really don't think it was 100% deliberate but it was clearly handball, but guess what sh1t happens and if it had been any other player doing it then it would not have created this much fuss. In my opinion Suarez has handled himself impeccably the last few months and he is now the most non-diving player in the premiership.

what happened against mansfield was just a normal run of the mill footballing incident that happen all the time.
no one was up in arms when peter crouch did a michael jordan impression earlier on in the season, no one called him a cheat, just as no one was bothered when that newcastle defender palmed andy carroll`s scrambled effort off the line up at st. james park last season.
it nearly got blown out of all proportion because it`s luis but even the media realise it`s much ado about nothing.

Here we are again, forced through the media, not to to discuss a legitimate goal, but another example of the most dishonest and abhorrent player ever to ply his trade in the best and most honest league in the best and most honest country in the world. We are once again under the spotlight due to the disgraceful and attention seeking behaviour of the demon known as Suarez, who, not only brings dishonour on himself but on our otherwise honourable club
What a load of Fu*king smelly sh'ite
If this would have been Fellaini or say, Crouch who deliberately and blatantly scored in such a way it would surely have been seen as a mortal sin. "Oh wait", I hear you cry, they both handled the ball before putting it in the net last season. Yes, but they dont come from south america, have buck teeth, been falsely accused of being a racist, pilloried for doing what ALL strikers do to gain an advantage, or play for the most successful team in british football do they?
Im absolutely aghast that any LFC supporter would question Suarez whatsoever, never mind suggest that he should leave because of his treatment from these hypocritical gobsh'ite co'cksuckers. I am also bitterly disappointed that my club is accepting this racist, offensive and vile discrimination and the public persecution of one of our players. It is victimisation and bullying in its purest form and why they havent banned reporters who write this filth from Melwood is beyond me. There has NEVER been such a witchunt in the history of football as we have seen with Suarez. NEVER!!! What justification is there, can there be for this frenzy of vitriol and hatred? Who has he killed, what heinous crime has he committed? It is an absolutely unbelievable situation where it seems that our board are so sh'it scared of defending him that they allow it to be unchecked and unchallenged. For shame guys
You can bet your last penny that the purple nosed cu'nt would not allow anything like this to happen to any of his players.
Not in a million years!

"The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell."
Confucious

they could start with banning that pr1ck maddock who's headline on monday read "caught red handed" .
he's a fooking T*ss*r and should be put out in the cold in melwood and rodgers should refuse to give him interviews and then see how much he's worth to his rag. he has laid into luis countless times over the last 18 months and he should be held to account for it.
i have heard countless stories over the years about how the purple decrepit one treats the media who pans his players and club and what does he get in return from them? FOOKING RESPECT.
from keeping them waiting to removing chairs from the room and serving cold tea and coffee at post match interviews or banning the perpetrators completely.
i really hate that fooker but i have got to hand it to him for the way he rules the roost over that lot

Boxscarf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:37 pm wrote:

Kenny Kan » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:58 pm wrote:

You obviously haven't read Boxcarf's opinions on Suarez. This little hypocrit advocated selling Suarez because he doesn't like the controversy that follows him. And he was quite vociferous about it too, apparently Suarez's celebration against Mansfield the other night made him sick. Here in this post, he's changing his tune somewhat but it doesn't disguise the fact that this little Sky generation fan wants Suarez gone because of the overwhelming media witch hunt that surrounds Luis.

I'm a supporter of this club, not of any single footballer and if a footballer is bringing this great club's name into disrepute or is tarnishing the image of this club, then I will come out in defence of my club. Anyone would think Suarez is the life and soul of this club, the way you carry on, you'll be launching an online petition to have Anfield renamed the 'Luis Suarez Stadium' before too long. I like Suarez, but I don't like his reputation and it's that reputation which has cost us dear both in points on the field and has seen our image and reputation take a battering over the last two years. This lastest incident has only further added to be tarnished reputation of this club. It's not fair on this club to have its name and badge sullied by the actions of one individual.

That single individual plays for this club and it's ONLY this club and the majority of it's supporters who stand behind Suarez. Of course, your more concerned with a players reputation than the value of his unquestionable ability to this club/team. An ability which not just shows up in the form of skill but the ability to actually give a f.uck and try his utmost week in week out for this club when others around him have become shrinking violets. The bloke has more guts and determination in his belly than any of our other lads - and we haven't even gotten to his skill set yet. So, just because you buy a few tabloids, read too much sky and digest them both as biblical readings and thus bow to the pressures of the media and 'other' fans, don't expect every other 'Pool fan to do the same; or heed your silly advice when advocating the sale of our best player just because a few Mancs don't like him.

Have a word with yourself.