Liverpool FC Forum

heimdall » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:44 pm wrote:

Gloryhunters??? How can a fan of Liverpool be called a gloryhunter, surely a gloryhunter would follow Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea?

He means people that started supporting the club because of either the 05 CL win or started in late 80's early 90's because we were winning everything

The sort of fans who think they deserve trophies and titles for their support.

Benny The Noon » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:52 pm wrote:

heimdall » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:44 pm wrote:

Gloryhunters??? How can a fan of Liverpool be called a gloryhunter, surely a gloryhunter would follow Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea?

He means people that started supporting the club because of either the 05 CL win or started in late 80's early 90's because we were winning everything

The sort of fans who think they deserve trophies and titles for their support.

But wouldn't a gloryhunter jump to the next successful team, why would a gloryhunter continue supporting a team when they weren't successful, makes no sense. As said a gloryhunter would not support Liverpool at this present time.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:56 pm wrote:

parchpea » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:38 pm wrote:Hes bob on like but will be beaten down like a dog for writing in.

Lets remember that only the voice of Dalglish and his flock must be
heard and anyone that dare to challenge it will be destroyed.

that `flock` as you call them are the real fans of this club, maybe they dont want to dance to the press`s tune like you obviously do, maybe those fans are prepared to give their manager time to build a side, they know rome wasnt built in a day just as united`s board knew 25 years ago, maybe those fans dont want to see the farce of a 4th manager in 3 years, and what happens if the new man struggles? lets face it benitez, hodgson and dalglish have struggled to get this squad performing consistently so chances are the new man would. what then? a 5th manager in 4 years?
how many change of managers have you called for in the past 3 years?

Reading s**t like this just makes me shake my head in disgust.

Incoherent, illogical and emotional filled drivel of the highest magnitude.

Lets get one thing right, just because you have an opinion over someone that disagrees with you doesn't mean you are a "real fan", all you are is an individual with an opinion posting on a online forum. Your opinions aren't facts, and so they don't qualify you in the so called realm of self-importance, don't delude yourself any further.

Now to your arguement.

From what I have read over the last few days, the press has largely been divided in their opinion of Dalglish. Unlike the "Suarez debacle" I have actually read balanced critiques on both sides, so this "tune that people are dancing to" is not being driven by the media, like the "racism" sham we saw earlier this season.

I understand that you are generally annoyed that there is a split in Liverpool fans on how they currently feel with Dalglish's managerial ability. To degrade them and think you are above them doesn't add any creedance to your arguement. From what I have been reading over the last few days I have not viewed ONE single post on this forum making any logical and ration sense on why Kenny should stay beyond this season. The blinkers have stayed well and truly on, the call to arms around the club tradition and blind faith has been nothing short of self-serving, hysterical and alarmist garbage.

Everyone is well aware that Rome wasn't built in a day. To build a team (of our stature) you need to lay the right foundations. Has Kenny done that? Do you honestly think that if we were to play the current squad (with no changes) for the next 2-3 seasons you would see gradual improvement? The answer you are looking for is a resounding "no". This is why fans are upset and feel they need to speak up, not some half-arsed conspiracy fantasy that they "hate"Kenny.

I would rather see the farce of 4 managers in 3 years then the farce of us sliding into mid-table obscurity or worse yet, relegation. But then you added that you would like to see us in one of the bottom divisions battling it out with the pub sides. This narcisstic view makes me just realise you are either a cleverly disguised WUM or you have no real intention of providing any constructive criticism for Liverpool to improve. If that is the way you feel there are plenty of other sides in England you can support mate, no need to bring us down with you self-destructive, blind and delusional fantaticism.

Just because Benitez, Hodgson and Dalglish have failed doesn't mean there is someone out there that won't succeed? Truly one of the dumbest things I have ever read!

If they get it right and we start to see improvement and a foundation "of greatness" we will let it slide that we don't win any cups. That is why Wenger is still at Arsenal. There is no need to beat the "5th manager in 4 years" drum when it looks apparent that Kenny will stay and if he DOESN'T get it right we will have something far, far worse...........

A mediocre team with very little chance of CL or a successful league campaign.
SEASON IN, SEASON OUT

At the end of the season if we were to win the FA cup, would you rather have won those 2 cups or trade places with Man City right now and be in a heated battle with Maure for the title.

I know which one I would prefer.

heimdall » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:58 pm wrote:But wouldn't a gloryhunter jump to the next successful team, why would a gloryhunter continue supporting a team when they weren't successful, makes no sense. As said a gloryhunter would not support Liverpool at this present time.

Exactly.

Silly argument from silly emotionally charged people........    

eds » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:59 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:56 pm wrote:

parchpea » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:38 pm wrote:Hes bob on like but will be beaten down like a dog for writing in.

Lets remember that only the voice of Dalglish and his flock must be
heard and anyone that dare to challenge it will be destroyed.

that `flock` as you call them are the real fans of this club, maybe they dont want to dance to the press`s tune like you obviously do, maybe those fans are prepared to give their manager time to build a side, they know rome wasnt built in a day just as united`s board knew 25 years ago, maybe those fans dont want to see the farce of a 4th manager in 3 years, and what happens if the new man struggles? lets face it benitez, hodgson and dalglish have struggled to get this squad performing consistently so chances are the new man would. what then? a 5th manager in 4 years?
how many change of managers have you called for in the past 3 years?

Reading s**t like this just makes me shake my head in disgust.

Incoherent, illogical and emotional filled drivel of the highest magnitude.

Lets get one thing right, just because you have an opinion over someone that disagrees with you doesn't mean you are a "real fan", all you are is an individual with an opinion posting on a online forum. Your opinions aren't facts, and so they don't qualify you in the so called realm of self-importance, don't delude yourself any further.

Now to your arguement.

From what I have read over the last few days, the press has largely been divided in their opinion of Dalglish. Unlike the "Suarez debacle" I have actually read balanced critiques on both sides, so this "tune that people are dancing to" is not being driven by the media, like the "racism" sham we saw earlier this season.

I understand that you are generally annoyed that there is a split in Liverpool fans on how they currently feel with Dalglish's managerial ability. To degrade them and think you are above them doesn't add any creedance to your arguement. From what I have been reading over the last few days I have not viewed ONE single post on this forum making any logical and ration sense on why Kenny should stay beyond this season. The blinkers have stayed well and truly on, the call to arms around the club tradition and blind faith has been nothing short of self-serving, hysterical and alarmist garbage.

Everyone is well aware that Rome wasn't built in a day. To build a team (of our stature) you need to lay the right foundations. Has Kenny done that? Do you honestly think that if we were to play the current squad (with no changes) for the next 2-3 seasons you would see gradual improvement? The answer you are looking for is a resounding "no". This is why fans are upset and feel they need to speak up, not some half-arsed conspiracy fantasy that they "hate"Kenny.

I would rather see the farce of 4 managers in 3 years then the farce of us sliding into mid-table obscurity or worse yet, relegation. But then you added that you would like to see us in one of the bottom divisions battling it out with the pub sides. This narcisstic view makes me just realise you are either a cleverly disguised WUM or you have no real intention of providing any constructive criticism for Liverpool to improve. If that is the way you feel there are plenty of other sides in England you can support mate, no need to bring us down with you self-destructive, blind and delusional fantaticism.

Just because Benitez, Hodgson and Dalglish have failed doesn't mean there is someone out there that won't succeed? Truly one of the dumbest things I have ever read!

If they get it right and we start to see improvement and a foundation "of greatness" we will let it slide that we don't win any cups. That is why Wenger is still at Arsenal. There is no need to beat the "5th manager in 4 years" drum when it looks apparent that Kenny will stay and if he DOESN'T get it right we will have something far, far worse...........

A mediocre team with very little chance of CL or a successful league campaign.
SEASON IN, SEASON OUT

At the end of the season if we were to win the FA cup, would you rather have won those 2 cups or trade places with Man City right now and be in a heated battle with Maure for the title.

I know which one I would prefer.

Brilliant post Eds! That particular poster you quoted often posts condescending remarks about anyone who doesn't think Kenny isn't the right man for the job.

Yes, good post Eds - I don't like all that 'real fan' ***** even though Heimy is fair game for it . I had my fair share of that s.hit thrown at me when I thought it was time Rafa moved on, towards the end of his "5 year plan".

BUT I have have to admit, the same people who wanted Rafa out and were content with Roy (myself included to this point), now seem to want Dalglish out, or are at least happy to stick the knife in and moan at every given chance about him. It's the same 'I want it now' fans who seem hellbent on getting in another new bloke, ironically in Heimy's case he'd have Rafa back      , I can't get over that one personally. But it does seem that many fans would rather have a go at the manager rather than support him through difficult times and afford him some substantial patience and time instead of IMO being so f.ucking knee-jerkish all the time.

Can't be me either, I'm too fickle !!    

Reg » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:32 pm wrote:Can't be me either, I'm too fickle !!   :laugh: 

You don't know whether you're Arthur or Marther.

Reg » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:32 pm wrote:Can't be me either, I'm too fickle !!   :laugh: 

mostest ficklest? 

maypaxvobiscum » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:15 pm wrote:

Reg » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:32 pm wrote:Can't be me either, I'm too fickle !!   :laugh: 

mostest ficklest? 

Are you now off to buy a Man City shirt, isn't that the 'norm' in your part of the world, when teams have a 'blip'? 

eds » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:59 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:56 pm wrote:

parchpea » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:38 pm wrote:Hes bob on like but will be beaten down like a dog for writing in.

Lets remember that only the voice of Dalglish and his flock must be
heard and anyone that dare to challenge it will be destroyed.

that `flock` as you call them are the real fans of this club, maybe they dont want to dance to the press`s tune like you obviously do, maybe those fans are prepared to give their manager time to build a side, they know rome wasnt built in a day just as united`s board knew 25 years ago, maybe those fans dont want to see the farce of a 4th manager in 3 years, and what happens if the new man struggles? lets face it benitez, hodgson and dalglish have struggled to get this squad performing consistently so chances are the new man would. what then? a 5th manager in 4 years?
how many change of managers have you called for in the past 3 years?

Reading s**t like this just makes me shake my head in disgust.

Incoherent, illogical and emotional filled drivel of the highest magnitude.

Lets get one thing right, just because you have an opinion over someone that disagrees with you doesn't mean you are a "real fan", all you are is an individual with an opinion posting on a online forum. Your opinions aren't facts, and so they don't qualify you in the so called realm of self-importance, don't delude yourself any further.

Now to your arguement.

From what I have read over the last few days, the press has largely been divided in their opinion of Dalglish. Unlike the "Suarez debacle" I have actually read balanced critiques on both sides, so this "tune that people are dancing to" is not being driven by the media, like the "racism" sham we saw earlier this season.

I understand that you are generally annoyed that there is a split in Liverpool fans on how they currently feel with Dalglish's managerial ability. To degrade them and think you are above them doesn't add any creedance to your arguement. From what I have been reading over the last few days I have not viewed ONE single post on this forum making any logical and ration sense on why Kenny should stay beyond this season. The blinkers have stayed well and truly on, the call to arms around the club tradition and blind faith has been nothing short of self-serving, hysterical and alarmist garbage.

Everyone is well aware that Rome wasn't built in a day. To build a team (of our stature) you need to lay the right foundations. Has Kenny done that? Do you honestly think that if we were to play the current squad (with no changes) for the next 2-3 seasons you would see gradual improvement? The answer you are looking for is a resounding "no". This is why fans are upset and feel they need to speak up, not some half-arsed conspiracy fantasy that they "hate"Kenny.

I would rather see the farce of 4 managers in 3 years then the farce of us sliding into mid-table obscurity or worse yet, relegation. But then you added that you would like to see us in one of the bottom divisions battling it out with the pub sides. This narcisstic view makes me just realise you are either a cleverly disguised WUM or you have no real intention of providing any constructive criticism for Liverpool to improve. If that is the way you feel there are plenty of other sides in England you can support mate, no need to bring us down with you self-destructive, blind and delusional fantaticism.

Just because Benitez, Hodgson and Dalglish have failed doesn't mean there is someone out there that won't succeed? Truly one of the dumbest things I have ever read!

If they get it right and we start to see improvement and a foundation "of greatness" we will let it slide that we don't win any cups. That is why Wenger is still at Arsenal. There is no need to beat the "5th manager in 4 years" drum when it looks apparent that Kenny will stay and if he DOESN'T get it right we will have something far, far worse...........

A mediocre team with very little chance of CL or a successful league campaign.
SEASON IN, SEASON OUT

At the end of the season if we were to win the FA cup, would you rather have won those 2 cups or trade places with Man City right now and be in a heated battle with Maure for the title.

I know which one I would prefer.

well what makes me shake my head in disgust is when whoppers who have probably never even seen the ground in their lives or have never been to liverpool or understand the culture of the city or the club think just because they chose to support this club it gives them a right to turn this club into a chelsea or an arsenal or somewhere else with a fickle fanbase.
if someone supports this club the least they can do is respect it`s culture and traditions, most fans from around the country and the world do, they understand the culture of the club because they`ve took the time to learn about it.
if you dont like me telling posters to stop having a go at the manager and to get behind the team then tough, if you were on the kop in the 60`s / 70`s and started to have a go at the manager you would have been told by dozens of people around you in no uncertain terms where to go, just like it happened to me tons of times like when i moaned about why we never seem to have any skillfull players like tony currie or frank worthington.
it`s not about me thinking i`m a better fan than anyone else it`s about me doing what i was taught to do 40 years ago - when times get tough circle the wagons and back the manager and the team.

ooh look now he's running to gutter press like talksh#te.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickof ... lem-167561

stmichael » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:11 pm wrote:ooh look now he's running to gutter press like talksh#te.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/kickof ... lem-167561

He's right though, he's spot on with everything he says.

If he was speaking in defence of Dalglish I'm sure more would be saying well in ect.... now all of a sudden he is a *****.

I don't give a flying fook what anybody has to say about LFC we are still the most successful club in England FACT. Won more cups this century than anyone else FACT. we have the greatest fans in the world(apart from a few k.nobheads) FACT. And the media hate us why?? Because we are different from the rest .we stand up when we are wronged we take no s.*i*e. they hate it because we don't conform. So Bascombe FOOK RIGHT OFF JUDAS