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by **jacdaniel** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:27 am

stmichael wrote:At this stage I'm putting the lapses down to a lack of fitness rather than the quality of the players we have. Last season after Kenny came in, from then until the end of the season we conceded 13 league goals (less than any other team in the league). If we are still conceding 3 a game at the end of August then I'll be concerned.

Agree with that. A lot of our poor defensive play is a result of not pressing hard enough in all areas of the pitch.

But pressing all over the pitch is a tough thing to do when the fitness levels havent quite returned to normal and given the climates of Asia/Turkey.

Thought we had a good second half yesterday though. TBH, im more concerned with our one dimensional approach when Carroll is on the field.

by **Scottbot** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:16 pm

CB is a far far bigger need than left-back for me. I'd actually feel pretty comfortable going into the season with Jack Robinson as 1st choice at LB if it meant there wasa decent chunk of money to go out and sign the centre-half we so obviously need. I quite like the lads we've brought in this off-season but it's all for nothing if the Kenny/Commoli can't see we're completely shot in the middle of our defence. PLEASE splash the cash on someone like Cahill or Shawcross because the 15 goals we've conceded in pre-season is no coincidence, it's not a consequence of players trying to get their sharpness back or Kenny trying different combinations it's because we're not up to it at CB.

by **metalhead** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:23 pm

Scottbot wrote:CB is a far far bigger need than left-back for me. I'd actually feel pretty comfortable going into the season with Jack Robinson as 1st choice at LB if it meant there wasa decent chunk of money to go out and sign the centre-half we so obviously need. I quite like the lads we've brought in this off-season but it's all for nothing if the Kenny/Commoli can't see we're completely shot in the middle of our defence. PLEASE splash the cash on someone like Cahill or Shawcross because the 15 goals we've conceded in pre-season is no coincidence, it's not a consequence of players trying to get their sharpness back or Kenny trying different combinations it's because we're not up to it at CB.

Robinson is only 17 mate, I don't want to see Kenny tiring him out playing him every game because it might hold back on his development. However I do agree that CB is a MUST its our number 1 priority

Scott Dann or Gary Cahill would be excellent

by **stmichael** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:52 pm

we still defended far too deep at times at the weekend, mainly due to our unwillingness to press the ball. if we can get back to our high tempo pressing game then that means we can keep a higher defensive line.

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:49 pm

metalhead wrote:
Scottbot wrote:CB is a far far bigger need than left-back for me. I'd actually feel pretty comfortable going into the season with Jack Robinson as 1st choice at LB if it meant there wasa decent chunk of money to go out and sign the centre-half we so obviously need. I quite like the lads we've brought in this off-season but it's all for nothing if the Kenny/Commoli can't see we're completely shot in the middle of our defence. PLEASE splash the cash on someone like Cahill or Shawcross because the 15 goals we've conceded in pre-season is no coincidence, it's not a consequence of players trying to get their sharpness back or Kenny trying different combinations it's because we're not up to it at CB.

Robinson is only 17 mate, I don't want to see Kenny tiring him out playing him every game because it might hold back on his development. However I do agree that CB is a MUST its our number 1 priority

Scott Dann or Gary Cahill would be excellent

Why wasn't Kelly chosen - is he injured ?

by **aCe'** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:38 pm

stmichael wrote:we still defended far too deep at times at the weekend, mainly due to our unwillingness to press the ball. if we can get back to our high tempo pressing game then that means we can keep a higher defensive line.

I agree with that..

With 2 upfront its a little harder pressing from higher up and the central midfielders need to be careful with their positioning especially since most sides play a midfield 5 nowadays.

by **jacdaniel** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:12 am

Just heard Aurelio could be out for a few months? Anyone else heard this?

I agree with the above that we should be pressing more. Im personally not a fan of 4-4-2. 9 out of 10 times the more common 5 man midfield will thrump it.

by **red till i die!!** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:45 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Just heard Aurelio could be out for a few months? Anyone else heard this?

I agree with the above that we should be pressing more. Im personally not a fan of 4-4-2. 9 out of 10 times the more common 5 man midfield will thrump it.

not sure if he is but there isnt any mention of him being injured here.http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_ ... b82a8649ab

im pretty sure we will play many formations over this season and we wont settle for one. but maybe the key is to be able to adapt and change the game with the right tactics when our starting formation fails.

by **stmichael** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:50 pm

red till i die!! wrote:im pretty sure we will play many formations over this season and we wont settle for one. but maybe the key is to be able to adapt and change the game with the right tactics when our starting formation fails.

a bit like last season i think we'll see three at the back in some games, especially away from home. this all depends on agger being fit though. if he can stay fit then we're laughing. playing three at the back requires at least one of the three being comfortable bringing the ball out into midfield.

by **red till i die!!** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:51 pm

stmichael wrote:
red till i die!! wrote:im pretty sure we will play many formations over this season and we wont settle for one. but maybe the key is to be able to adapt and change the game with the right tactics when our starting formation fails.

a bit like last season i think we'll see three at the back in some games, especially away from home. this all depends on agger being fit though. if he can stay fit then we're laughing. playing three at the back requires at least one of the three being comfortable bringing the ball out into midfield.

agreed.
agger is essential to our defense atm and without him we will struggle to do anything other than hoof.
it would be ideal if we can get another def in that can play on the ground and i hope its cahill over dann.
we need a better link between the def and mid so when gerrard comes back its possible he could play a holding role to bridge that gap.
we have more options and quality this year and hopefully when fitness levels improve so will the consistency over 90 mins.

by **stmichael** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:25 am

red till i die!! wrote:we need a better link between the def and mid so when gerrard comes back its possible he could play a holding role to bridge that gap.

that's a waste imo.

yes he can do a job there but he's still, alonside suarez, the best attcking player we have. we need him doing his damage in the final third.

by **only me** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:57 pm

red till i die!! wrote:
stmichael wrote:
red till i die!! wrote:im pretty sure we will play many formations over this season and we wont settle for one. but maybe the key is to be able to adapt and change the game with the right tactics when our starting formation fails.

a bit like last season i think we'll see three at the back in some games, especially away from home. this all depends on agger being fit though. if he can stay fit then we're laughing. playing three at the back requires at least one of the three being comfortable bringing the ball out into midfield.

agreed.
agger is essential to our defense atm and without him we will struggle to do anything other than hoof.
it would be ideal if we can get another def in that can play on the ground and i hope its cahill over dann.
we need a better link between the def and mid so when gerrard comes back its possible he could play a holding role to bridge that gap.
we have more options and quality this year and hopefully when fitness levels improve so will the consistency over 90 mins.

A bit off topic but still - Can anyone guess who is he?

And some People here think he is one of the best in his position and we should keep him.

Oct 2006 - Injured: Out for 1 month
Jan 2007 - Injured: Out for 6 weeks
Apr 2007 - Injured: Achilles tendon. Out for 5 months

Apr 2008 - Injured: Adductor muscle - Out for 4 months
Nov 2008 - Injured: Out for 5 weeks

Jul 2009 - Injured: Playing football with kids - Out for 2 months
Oct 2009 - Injured: out for 4 weeks

Feb 2010 - Injured: out for 5 months

March 2011 - Injured: Hamstring. Out for 5 weeks
April 2011 - Injured: Hamstring. Out for 5 weeks
August 2011 - – Injured: Achilles. Out for ?

That is 23 months of injury time in 5 seasons.

FABIO AURELLIO falks. Still here. Still injured.

And I'm asking is this Liverpool Football Club ,Or Liverpool Intensive Care Unit?

Agger is getting too close to this category.

by **stmichael** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:26 pm

just hop ethe back four that started today stay fit and get a run of games togethre now. thought they were all exceptional. kelly especially has maturity beyond his years.

by **Octsky** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:39 pm

am i the only one here to think that atm Kelly offers more than Johnson defensively ?

by **tubby** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 pm

Yeah id play Johnson further up the pitch, rotate him with Henderson and just use Kuyt as a backup striker.

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