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by **red till i die!!** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:58 pm

now all we hear is poor roy never got a chance,unfairly treated,no support from the off,blah,blah,blah.
that tune is being played to death on ssn,sick of hearing its everyones fault but the manager's.the results and decline of the team lie solely with hodgson.he cannot rally or motivate the team,some of the performances and results have been shocking,and it looks like the players couldnt be arsed to play for him so its ineviatable he has to go.
at least now its become clear that he isnt up to the job and we all seem to agree with that.
the sooner he's gone then the better and we can start afresh.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:59 pm

Remeber now: he was brought in to steady the ship. Well, he's driven us into an iceberg.

by **Zidane** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:01 pm

With all that's happened I have to say that our fans are acting really foolish at times, it's ridiculous reading some of RAWK and some post on here. I know that the situation isn't a desirable one but people already blasting our new owners who have just stepped into all this is fucking pathetic if you ask me. Roy has had his chance to show what he could do with the squad and see if further backing was necessary, he is as good as sacked at the moment but all this impatience going on is unbelievable. Give everyone a fucking break already, really. Let the owners figure this stuff out cause believe it or not, the fans don't know what is best for the club and even if they did they don't know the ways to go about getting those things. Think about it for a minute, do we really want Kenny or anyone coming in before Man U in the FA Cup? Regardless of whoever comes in or Roy stays you can almost count on that one being a loss, no manager wants to come into that right away. Top class managers aren't going to just fall into our laps especially with the lack of quality in the squad and the way a lot of our players look like they don't give a sh!t. We aren't even a team out there at times just a bunch of individuals going through the motions, same as last year when we had a better manager.

Lets say Kenny does come in, what are you lot going to say if he can't get the results either? What if we do get a manager everyone approves of and STILL don't get results that are good enough for our wonderful supporters? Are you all going to bottle it again and keep complaining about how we need this or that the owners the manager etc etc, have a look at yourselves in the future if we aren't all of a sudden fighting for the title next year. I want Roy out but a lot of what makes Liverpool supporters so good is making them look like a bunch of whingers right now. If I was Liverpools owner or manager I'd tell the fans to stick to supporting the club and leave these matters to people who actually make these decisions.

by **Ciggy** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:02 pm

Emerald Red wrote:Remeber now: he was brought in to steady the ship. Well, he's driven us into an iceberg.

You'd think he would leave with a bit of dignity and resign wouldnt you? How much worst is it going to get before the owners do something about it?

by **Redman in wales** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
metalhead wrote:maybe discussing a severance package?

Packet of Werthers Originals and a bottle of bells blended whisky should do it.

edited

(dont want to over do it now)

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Lee J wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:That's bullsH!T LEE . Roy wasn't given a chance by some because he had been a manager for 35 years before us and his track record spoke for itself. If the club employed a manager who was as good as or better than benitez there would have been none of this. It's got f.uck all to do with the fans and everything to do with how bad a manager hodgson is.

big fat hairy bollox and you know it.

I'm not sad to see Roy depart, he didn't fit in at all. We as fans did not know how good or bad Roy was gonna turn out for LIVERPOOL FC. Fuk whatever sh!te he may have done for the last 35 years , this was Roy Hodgson as manager of Liverpool FC and certain breed of fans on here stuck the fuking boot in and called him all the kunts under the sun BEFORE we even found out.

and if you say you knew how it'd turn out way back in Jul/Aug then you must be Mistic fuking Meg or summat.

But now it seems he'll be on his way, the Roy bashers are happy, the Liverpool FC fans are happy (hopefully the rot will stop now) and we move on.

So are you telling me that 35 years in management and achieving f.uck all told us nothing . Just because he became our manager ,this all of a sudden made him into a top class manager and those past 35 years meant f.uck all . Behave yourself lee , i'm no mistic f.uckin meg but i'm not stupid . The writing was on the wall , you just hope against hope that your intuition and feeling is bollox . It wasn't wrong so we move on and get behind the next manager (unless it's sam friggin alladyce )

by **ste123lfc** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:06 pm

Everyone I have spoken to yesterday and today say you can't just blame Hodgson, its the players. WRONG. Everton fans will be the first to agree that they haven't got the best squad in the world, but what they do have is a manager (despise him all you like) that motivates and gets the best out of his players, that is a managers job. This clown we have has not got the first ferkin idea how to do that. F*CK OFF NOW WOY

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:06 pm

Zidane wrote:With all that's happened I have to say that our fans are acting really foolish at times, it's ridiculous reading some of RAWK and some post on here. I know that the situation isn't a desirable one but people already blasting our new owners who have just stepped into all this is fucking pathetic if you ask me. Roy has had his chance to show what he could do with the squad and see if further backing was necessary, he is as good as sacked at the moment but all this impatience going on is unbelievable. Give everyone a fucking break already, really. Let the owners figure this stuff out cause believe it or not, the fans don't know what is best for the club and even if they did they don't know the ways to go about getting those things. Think about it for a minute, do we really want Kenny or anyone coming in before Man U in the FA Cup? Regardless of whoever comes in or Roy stays you can almost count on that one being a loss, no manager wants to come into that right away. Top class managers aren't going to just fall into our laps especially with the lack of quality in the squad and the way a lot of our players look like they don't give a sh!t. We aren't even a team out there at times just a bunch of individuals going through the motions, same as last year when we had a better manager.

Lets say Kenny does come in, what are you lot going to say if he can't get the results either? What if we do get a manager everyone approves of and STILL don't get results that are good enough for our wonderful supporters? Are you all going to bottle it again and keep complaining about how we need this or that the owners the manager etc etc, have a look at yourselves in the future if we aren't all of a sudden fighting for the title next year. I want Roy out but a lot of what makes Liverpool supporters so good is making them look like a bunch of whingers right now. If I was Liverpools owner or manager I'd tell the fans to stick to supporting the club and leave these matters to people who actually make these decisions.

They don't? So the campaigns against the previous two Yanks didn't have an effect or anything? The fans that did something about that didn't know what they were doing and didn't know what was best for the club?

by **Weallliveinaperrygrovesworld** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:07 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:
Lee J wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:That's bullsH!T LEE . Roy wasn't given a chance by some because he had been a manager for 35 years before us and his track record spoke for itself. If the club employed a manager who was as good as or better than benitez there would have been none of this. It's got f.uck all to do with the fans and everything to do with how bad a manager hodgson is.

big fat hairy bollox and you know it.

I'm not sad to see Roy depart, he didn't fit in at all. We as fans did not know how good or bad Roy was gonna turn out for LIVERPOOL FC. Fuk whatever sh!te he may have done for the last 35 years , this was Roy Hodgson as manager of Liverpool FC and certain breed of fans on here stuck the fuking boot in and called him all the kunts under the sun BEFORE we even found out.

and if you say you knew how it'd turn out way back in Jul/Aug then you must be Mistic fuking Meg or summat.

But now it seems he'll be on his way, the Roy bashers are happy, the Liverpool FC fans are happy (hopefully the rot will stop now) and we move on.

So are you telling me that 35 years in management and achieving f.uck all told us nothing . Just because he became our manager ,this all of a sudden made him into a top class manager and those past 35 years meant f.uck all . Behave yourself lee , i'm no mistic f.uckin meg but i'm not stupid . The writing was on the wall , you just hope against hope that your intuition and feeling is bollox . It wasn't wrong so we move on and get behind the next manager (unless it's sam friggin alladyce )

no matter what people thought, he didnt deserve to be treated the way he was from day one. its that simple to me.

and we'll get behind the next manager for how long exactly?

by **red till i die!!** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:07 pm

7_Kewell wrote:the Roy era won't go down as a great moment, both Roy and and our fans reputations have been left tarnished by the last 5 months.

why wont you just get it in to your head that he isnt good enough,end of.
instead you constantly swipe at our fans and club in defense of this man when you know he has no mandate from the new owners and now the fans.
the only thing that has being tarnished is our reputation as a footballing side.

by **Emerald Red** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:09 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Remeber now: he was brought in to steady the ship. Well, he's driven us into an iceberg.

You'd think he would leave with a bit of dignity and resign wouldnt you? How much worst is it going to get before the owners do something about it?

I just can't wait to hear what his mates on Sky Sports have to say when he gets jinged. Should be a right laugh listening to them fumbling for excuses.

by **mart** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:09 pm

7_Kewell wrote:And that’s why the media won’t jump on him. Liverpool FC is seen as a poisoned chalice by almost every sports hack around and who ever came in after Rafa and H&G were going to reap the seeds they sowed.

I'd say it was because he is a "nice man" that give them what they want. And because he is british.

by **akumaface** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:10 pm

Ciggy wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Remeber now: he was brought in to steady the ship. Well, he's driven us into an iceberg.

You'd think he would leave with a bit of dignity and resign wouldnt you? How much worst is it going to get before the owners do something about it?

From what i had seen from him. He strongly believed it wasn't his fault. That's why he didn't feel it was fair to shoulder the blame. He really felt being treated unfairly by the fans. I mean he is in denial. If he is not to blame, i guess it is our fault. But the problem is why the management is not doing anything. At least come out to say either you support him no matter what or give him a deadline. The fact that the owners left the fans hanging is really not a good judgement. Without clearing anything, people will speculate and will get worse eventually. I thought they were experienced owners but it seems they are not equiped to handle the crisis.... Really hope to get the news so that at least we get the process going. It is really getting frustrated and really p.issed off....

by **Igor Zidane** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:12 pm

Weallliveinaperrygrovesworld wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
Lee J wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:That's bullsH!T LEE . Roy wasn't given a chance by some because he had been a manager for 35 years before us and his track record spoke for itself. If the club employed a manager who was as good as or better than benitez there would have been none of this. It's got f.uck all to do with the fans and everything to do with how bad a manager hodgson is.

big fat hairy bollox and you know it.

I'm not sad to see Roy depart, he didn't fit in at all. We as fans did not know how good or bad Roy was gonna turn out for LIVERPOOL FC. Fuk whatever sh!te he may have done for the last 35 years , this was Roy Hodgson as manager of Liverpool FC and certain breed of fans on here stuck the fuking boot in and called him all the kunts under the sun BEFORE we even found out.

and if you say you knew how it'd turn out way back in Jul/Aug then you must be Mistic fuking Meg or summat.

But now it seems he'll be on his way, the Roy bashers are happy, the Liverpool FC fans are happy (hopefully the rot will stop now) and we move on.

So are you telling me that 35 years in management and achieving f.uck all told us nothing . Just because he became our manager ,this all of a sudden made him into a top class manager and those past 35 years meant f.uck all . Behave yourself lee , i'm no mistic f.uckin meg but i'm not stupid . The writing was on the wall , you just hope against hope that your intuition and feeling is bollox . It wasn't wrong so we move on and get behind the next manager (unless it's sam friggin alladyce )

no matter what people thought, he didnt deserve to be treated the way he was from day one. its that simple to me.

and we'll get behind the next manager for how long exactly?

For aslong as he keeps showing he deserves our support like most of the previous managers before hodgson . Respect and support is a two way thing ginge and hodgson never give the fans it and got none .

by **Zidane** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:12 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Zidane wrote:With all that's happened I have to say that our fans are acting really foolish at times, it's ridiculous reading some of RAWK and some post on here. I know that the situation isn't a desirable one but people already blasting our new owners who have just stepped into all this is fucking pathetic if you ask me. Roy has had his chance to show what he could do with the squad and see if further backing was necessary, he is as good as sacked at the moment but all this impatience going on is unbelievable. Give everyone a fucking break already, really. Let the owners figure this stuff out cause believe it or not, the fans don't know what is best for the club and even if they did they don't know the ways to go about getting those things. Think about it for a minute, do we really want Kenny or anyone coming in before Man U in the FA Cup? Regardless of whoever comes in or Roy stays you can almost count on that one being a loss, no manager wants to come into that right away. Top class managers aren't going to just fall into our laps especially with the lack of quality in the squad and the way a lot of our players look like they don't give a sh!t. We aren't even a team out there at times just a bunch of individuals going through the motions, same as last year when we had a better manager.

Lets say Kenny does come in, what are you lot going to say if he can't get the results either? What if we do get a manager everyone approves of and STILL don't get results that are good enough for our wonderful supporters? Are you all going to bottle it again and keep complaining about how we need this or that the owners the manager etc etc, have a look at yourselves in the future if we aren't all of a sudden fighting for the title next year. I want Roy out but a lot of what makes Liverpool supporters so good is making them look like a bunch of whingers right now. If I was Liverpools owner or manager I'd tell the fans to stick to supporting the club and leave these matters to people who actually make these decisions.

They don't? So the campaigns against the previous two Yanks didn't have an effect or anything? The fans that did something about that didn't know what they were doing and didn't know what was best for the club?

A lot of fans would have Rafa back right now, maybe you would too, but that decision would not come without its fair share of problems. As much as I liked Rafa he isn't the man for the job right now, for me all the pressure on him before broke him toward the end and he lost the plot a bit. He needs time off he doesn't need to be thrown right back into the sh!t we have at the club. It would be a bad decision to bring him back regardless of how much he is loved.

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