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by **The Good Yank** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:12 pm

dundreamin wrote:i think it was a travesty that Hodgson was installed as manager in the first place.although i suspect it was the vermins choice,as they wanted a yes man. A person who would not rock the boat. But the vermin weren't prepared of what was going to happen i think we have to write this season off,and maybe next season too. The mange etc will be laughing at us but let's be honest They,ve been doing that for 20 years now. NESV HAVE to get it right this time,and given time i think they will. YNWA

L$FAO going back to the "Yes Man" thing again eh? He wasn't in the job for a week before he pointed his finger at Purslow and the owners for the state of the squad. BTW I find the subliminal dissociation regarding the club and the owners a bit silly. So they are a part of the club when they do something well but they aren't part of the club if their actions are yet to be determined. Comical.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:34 am

Interim manager whose presence until the end of the season will give NESV a chance to actually learn something about the game before making any long term decisions. Will rightly be gone at the end of the season but lay off the guy and think long term.

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:10 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8212773/Liverpool-manager-Roy-Hodgson-says-he-needs-to-bring-in-his-own-players-like-Harry-Redknap
p-at-Tottenham.html

Roy Hodgson feels the Liverpool side he inherited from Rafael Benítez is starting to feel like his own with every passing game, but admits it would take an influx of players akin to that overseen by Harry Redknapp at Tottenham before he can make his own mark on the club.

After a turbulent opening six months at Anfield — a period in which the 63 year-old acknowledges he struggled to transmit his beliefs to his new squad, suggesting he “could not identify with a lot of things that happened on the pitch” — Hodgson appears to have settled on both system and personnel.

He is likely to begin his work shaping the squad to his own wishes as soon as the transfer window opens in January —selling Milan Jovanovic could be his first task with Cologne and Hamburg interested — but insists this will not be a Liverpool team cast in his own image for some time to come.

“It is starting to feel more like my side,” the Liverpool manager said. “But it is still a team that I have not put together. I want to make that clear. I took the team over and I have not made that many changes. I brought in [Paul] Konchesky to play left back, Raul Meireles to replace [Javier] Mascherano and Joe Cole came in at the same time as me as well as Christian Poulsen. The other players I have inherited.

“I think I would be a good comparison with Tottenham because Harry [Redknapp] came in there just as I came into Fulham so he will just be completing three years and he has brought in a lot of players. So to really call it my team, I would have had to make a slightly bigger impact on those who have been brought in.

“I am more than happy to take responsibility for this squad but it takes a coach more than five or six months to make his stamp on a club. I am hoping we will do some good business in transfer windows to come and then I will be able say, ‘If you don’t like it then I have no one to blame but myself’.”

/ Do one Roy

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:17 am

NANNY RED wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8212773/Liverpool-manager-Roy-Hodgson-says-he-needs-to-bring-in-his-own-players-like-Harry-Redknap

p-at-Tottenham.html

Roy Hodgson feels the Liverpool side he inherited from Rafael Benítez is starting to feel like his own with every passing game, but admits it would take an influx of players akin to that overseen by Harry Redknapp at Tottenham before he can make his own mark on the club.

After a turbulent opening six months at Anfield — a period in which the 63 year-old acknowledges he struggled to transmit his beliefs to his new squad, suggesting he “could not identify with a lot of things that happened on the pitch” — Hodgson appears to have settled on both system and personnel.

He is likely to begin his work shaping the squad to his own wishes as soon as the transfer window opens in January —selling Milan Jovanovic could be his first task with Cologne and Hamburg interested — but insists this will not be a Liverpool team cast in his own image for some time to come.

“It is starting to feel more like my side,” the Liverpool manager said. “But it is still a team that I have not put together. I want to make that clear. I took the team over and I have not made that many changes. I brought in [Paul] Konchesky to play left back, Raul Meireles to replace [Javier] Mascherano and Joe Cole came in at the same time as me as well as Christian Poulsen. The other players I have inherited.

“I think I would be a good comparison with Tottenham because Harry [Redknapp] came in there just as I came into Fulham so he will just be completing three years and he has brought in a lot of players. So to really call it my team, I would have had to make a slightly bigger impact on those who have been brought in.

“I am more than happy to take responsibility for this squad but it takes a coach more than five or six months to make his stamp on a club. I am hoping we will do some good business in transfer windows to come and then I will be able say, ‘If you don’t like it then I have no one to blame but myself’.”

/ Do one Roy

another brilliant post from Nan there. :no

by **The Good Yank** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:05 am

I've read it a couple times, I must be slow. What's wrong with what he said. Please educate me.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:39 am

The Good Yank wrote:I've read it a couple times, I must be slow. What's wrong with what he said. Please educate me.

god knows mate, Nan and Ciggy have a habit of posting sh!te on here these days. Shame, they were really good and respected posters...now they do nothing but post childish nonsense.

by **Fauxy** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:49 am

Well pretty much everything he says there is the truth..

But the fact that he said it shows that he is a man making excuses for the season we are having. He cant possibly blame the squad he inhereted from Rafa as the reason why we have been knocked out of the league cup by northampton, beaten at home by blackpool, been hovering around the relagation zone and we are now sitting mid table at the end of december.

The squad we have is way way waaay more capable than that so he just cant use this as an excuse at all. Some of the things he says to the press sometimes are just completely bizarre, for example saying that we played well after losing to Everton even though we were actually SHOCKING.

Anyways, although wat he says about him inheriting Rafa's squad is truthful, its a pathetic excuse from him. Really, really pathetic.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:50 am

The between Roy and Rafa is .... Rafa take advantage and won CL ( Istanbul ) when he inherited GH Team ... This is the great between 2 Managers ...

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:55 am

NANNY RED wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8212773/Liverpool-manager-Roy-Hodgson-says-he-needs-to-bring-in-his-own-players-like-Harry-Redknap

p-at-Tottenham.html

Roy Hodgson feels the Liverpool side he inherited from Rafael Benítez is starting to feel like his own with every passing game, but admits it would take an influx of players akin to that overseen by Harry Redknapp at Tottenham before he can make his own mark on the club.

After a turbulent opening six months at Anfield — a period in which the 63 year-old acknowledges he struggled to transmit his beliefs to his new squad, suggesting he “could not identify with a lot of things that happened on the pitch” — Hodgson appears to have settled on both system and personnel.

He is likely to begin his work shaping the squad to his own wishes as soon as the transfer window opens in January —selling Milan Jovanovic could be his first task with Cologne and Hamburg interested — but insists this will not be a Liverpool team cast in his own image for some time to come.

“It is starting to feel more like my side,” the Liverpool manager said. “But it is still a team that I have not put together. I want to make that clear. I took the team over and I have not made that many changes. I brought in [Paul] Konchesky to play left back, Raul Meireles to replace [Javier] Mascherano and Joe Cole came in at the same time as me as well as Christian Poulsen. The other players I have inherited.

“I think I would be a good comparison with Tottenham because Harry [Redknapp] came in there just as I came into Fulham so he will just be completing three years and he has brought in a lot of players. So to really call it my team, I would have had to make a slightly bigger impact on those who have been brought in.

“I am more than happy to take responsibility for this squad but it takes a coach more than five or six months to make his stamp on a club. I am hoping we will do some good business in transfer windows to come and then I will be able say, ‘If you don’t like it then I have no one to blame but myself’.”

/ Do one Roy

Why am I not at all surprised its auld Dell Boy he wants to emulate

how much of a mark does Roy wish to make ?,the fans already know he's been here he's f ucking stunk the place out ...
maybe he would do well to remember that Cockney twat at Spurs thought Hicks&Gillette were decent owners and had the nerve to state as such for the press .....

by **glenbuck patriot** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:02 am

Fauxy wrote:Found this on rawk.

A poster on another forum posted this email that he claimed he received from a coach in the academy:-

"• The flipchart from the players meeting is 100% genuine – it wasn’t in a Newcastle hotel as it was here before they left.
• Someone who witnessed the meeting said it was the most amateurish team meeting they have been in ever.
• Kelly spent his time swearing and urging Kyriagos and Skrtel to ‘rough up’ Andy Carroll – the players are used to more detailed information such as which foot he favours etc. The swearing, as fackin this and fackin that, doesn’t go down well in a professional environment with the players

• Before the Blackpool game the scouts reports (the guys who go and watch the opposition) all outlined that if you stop Charlie Adam then you stop Blackpool – he needs time and space to dictate the play and he pulls the strings for the Blackpool front 3 – Roy basically ignored them and in the briefing meetings when he was advised to close down Adams he said ‘Why? My teams don’t do that’. He then went out with his regimented 4-4-2 and wondered why Blackpool out passed us and destroyed us in the final third of the pitch.

• Roy was presented with scouting reports of recent Newcastle performances in a meeting with scouts and Damian Commolli (oh and the swearing big, old, fat cockney Kelly). Roy actually commented that he had never seen reports with so much detail and specific information about each of the opposition players and how they played. But then said ‘But what do you want me to do with them?’

• The reports started off by highlighting how the Newcastle full backs play higher up the pitch and leave spaces in behind them to exploit. Roy said ‘so what’. It was suggested to him that the wide players may wish to get men and the ball in that area and look to get crosses in to the box – ‘We don’t play that way!’

• They showed how Newcastle launch attacks from the high up fullbacks aiming diagonal balls into Carroll. Roy was urged to get his wide men to push on the full backs and not allow them the time to get their arrowed balls into Carroll – We don’t play that way!’

• At this point Commolli quietly urged the scouts to leave it and not push it any further.

• Hodgson and Kelly have built up a serious and nasty hatred for Torres and Reina – it has all come one way but has now started to return from the Spaniards.

• Mike Kelly spends his time slating the players and doesn’t have a good word to say about any of them

Hodgson is feeling that he is not getting anywhere near the credit he should be 'for guiding this squad so easily through the Europa League'.

He has tactically took a group of young players and also rans and sailed through against full strength sides.

'Facking ell, facking ell - no one is giving me the credit I deserve for the European efforts'

He is also not happy that John Henry is in many discussions with Commolli and not Roy.

Big arguments between staff brought in by Hodgson and those already at the club about footballing philosophys.

Ex Fulham coach on the virtues of their methods and Liverpool coaches desperately trying to tell them 'but we are not Fulham'

civil war in there"

Whether it's true or not, the really sad thing is it's believable, You couldn't write this sort of thing..........Sorry forgot, they've already made a Film about it, LFC Now has their very own Mike Bassett!

And we're gonna play four four f**ckin two!

Look out for Lambert, Butler, Benson & Hedges in the January Transfer Window.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:35 am

7_Kewell wrote:
The Good Yank wrote:I've read it a couple times, I must be slow. What's wrong with what he said. Please educate me.

god knows mate, Nan and Ciggy have a habit of posting sh!te on here these days. Shame, they were really good and respected posters...now they do nothing but post childish nonsense.

*Note to Kewell* Ciggy and Nanny are not the same person.

Nanny posts an article and you bring my name into it, how does that work

We both agree that our club needs someone other than Roy as our manager.

This is getting really childish and pathetic you would think Nanny was my siamese twin attachted to my head.

http://postmatchpint.com/2010....ir-fans

My name is Robbie, and I am not a Liverpool fan.

However, it has been hard to ignore the negative press that Liverpool have been receiving recently, both from regular fans and from football pundits. The general charge has been that Liverpool fans must get to grips with the reality of their situation, that they are no longer a top club and that they must alter their expectations accordingly. The horrendously protracted sale of the club did their image no favours either, and gave many a Liverpool detractor their moment in the sun.

I think that the notion of the ‘big club’ is as outdated as it is elitist, but one thing is striking when one talks to Liverpool supporters. For fans who supposedly believe they have a right to win everything in style, it is rather suprising to find out that actually, they don’t. They really don’t. Time and time again I have spoken to Liverpool fans, expecting a barrage of unrealistic predictions and lofty ambitions. And time and time again it doesn’t happen.

This set me thinking, and I have a theory on why Liverpool fans – and other fans of ‘big clubs’ who aren’t winning things – are misunderstood. Liverpool fans do not believe they have a right to success, they believe they have a right to expect a certain standard at their club – in the way the finances are run, in the public image, in the quality of players and in the style of play. Why shouldn’t followers of a club which has in the past epitomised professionalism, community spirit, local pride and sporting success expect it to continue? Why shouldn’t they demand high standards on and off the pitch? Why shouldn’t they herald what the club means to them? Why shouldn’t they be proud of their history?

They don’t want to see their club auctioned off, squabbled over and bargained for. They aren’t particularly happy with a coach who errs on the side of negativity, and more than anything they demand their club behaves on and off the pitch to a level akin to what they are used to and what they have become world famous for. There is, after all, a reason they are so internationally respected – that respect certainly wasn’t borne out of financial squabbling, profiteering and negativity on the pitch.

There are certain clubs that inspire civic pride and which define their supporters. Liverpool is one of them. So hey, lets stop this one dimensional criticism of the club and their supporters – I’d bet that the majority of them aren’t bothered about being Champions – they just want the class back.

by **7_Kewell** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:20 pm

Ciggy…both you AND Nan post the same negative articles, or sound bytes and it’s getting really, really, really tedious. This forum isn’t a nice place to be anymore.

by **Aussie Style** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:34 pm

Benitez sacked???

by **rocky29** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:38 pm

Ciggy wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
The Good Yank wrote:I've read it a couple times, I must be slow. What's wrong with what he said. Please educate me.

god knows mate, Nan and Ciggy have a habit of posting sh!te on here these days. Shame, they were really good and respected posters...now they do nothing but post childish nonsense.

*Note to Kewell* Ciggy and Nanny are not the same person.

Nanny posts an article and you bring my name into it, how does that work

We both agree that our club needs someone other than Roy as our manager.

This is getting really childish and pathetic you would think Nanny was my siamese twin attachted to my head.

http://postmatchpint.com/2010....ir-fans

My name is Robbie, and I am not a Liverpool fan.

However, it has been hard to ignore the negative press that Liverpool have been receiving recently, both from regular fans and from football pundits. The general charge has been that Liverpool fans must get to grips with the reality of their situation, that they are no longer a top club and that they must alter their expectations accordingly. The horrendously protracted sale of the club did their image no favours either, and gave many a Liverpool detractor their moment in the sun.

I think that the notion of the ‘big club’ is as outdated as it is elitist, but one thing is striking when one talks to Liverpool supporters. For fans who supposedly believe they have a right to win everything in style, it is rather suprising to find out that actually, they don’t. They really don’t. Time and time again I have spoken to Liverpool fans, expecting a barrage of unrealistic predictions and lofty ambitions. And time and time again it doesn’t happen.

This set me thinking, and I have a theory on why Liverpool fans – and other fans of ‘big clubs’ who aren’t winning things – are misunderstood. Liverpool fans do not believe they have a right to success, they believe they have a right to expect a certain standard at their club – in the way the finances are run, in the public image, in the quality of players and in the style of play. Why shouldn’t followers of a club which has in the past epitomised professionalism, community spirit, local pride and sporting success expect it to continue? Why shouldn’t they demand high standards on and off the pitch? Why shouldn’t they herald what the club means to them? Why shouldn’t they be proud of their history?

They don’t want to see their club auctioned off, squabbled over and bargained for. They aren’t particularly happy with a coach who errs on the side of negativity, and more than anything they demand their club behaves on and off the pitch to a level akin to what they are used to and what they have become world famous for. There is, after all, a reason they are so internationally respected – that respect certainly wasn’t borne out of financial squabbling, profiteering and negativity on the pitch.

There are certain clubs that inspire civic pride and which define their supporters. Liverpool is one of them. So hey, lets stop this one dimensional criticism of the club and their supporters – I’d bet that the majority of them aren’t bothered about being Champions – they just want the class back.

i agree ciggy kewell should stop acting pathetic and childish and start acting like adults like you and nan are :laugh:

by **maguskwt** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:40 pm

Shrimp fried rice!

Shrimp fried rice!

Shrimp fried rice!

I'm more interested in shrimp fried rice than in Roy Hodgson.

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