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by **shabelle50** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:25 am

Kharhaz wrote:Woy?

We still acting like babies?

Seriously, grow the fuck up.

Calling him Woy helps keep your sense of humour about the whole thing because otherwise you would seriously depressed about the way in which Hodgson has with the help of H&G helped to turn us into a laughing stock. It's a desperate state of affairs and the sooner Woy realises he's out of his depth and always will be the better.

by **Kharhaz** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:39 am

shabelle50 wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Woy?

We still acting like babies?

Seriously, grow the fuck up.

Calling him Woy helps keep your sense of humour about the whole thing because otherwise you would seriously depressed about the way in which Hodgson has with the help of H&G helped to turn us into a laughing stock. It's a desperate state of affairs and the sooner Woy realises he's out of his depth and always will be the better.

Calling him Woy isnt keeping a sense of humour. Its keeping a snobbishness that isnt deserved. Hicks and Gillett helped create an evil attitude, its the so called fans keeping it going.

by **The Good Yank** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:12 am

Spot on Kharaz.

by **boodiddy1** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:22 am

Ciggy wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:They have said themselves that Roy inherited this squad, he didn't build it.

Look at the sh!te hes left Mark Hughes with if you want to blame what hes been left with.

This topic is pathetic. A lot of generally good posters are acting like fools. Ciggy, Nanny etc its pathetic.

Im in agreement that we will get a new manager but comments like this one here are baseless. Look what he was left with? I dont blame rafa 100%, the owners really hamstrung us. To say look at what he left Hughes, well the flip side to that is look at what Mourinho left Rafa. A treble winning team that is languishing 7th in Seria A. Claiming a world club cup by beating the might of Africe FFS!

Football moves on, and certain players dont react to managers changing. It takes time. For me, we are awful, but i look at Mascherano leaving so late in the day. Not getting new owners in whilst the transfer window was open.

Write this season off, and hopefully, Commolli, Kenny and the new guy can get somoething put together in the summer. A real new start, young talent and fresh attractive football.

by **Thommo's perm** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:55 am

shabelle50 wrote:
Kharhaz wrote:Woy?

We still acting like babies?

Seriously, grow the fuck up.

Calling him Woy helps keep your sense of humour about the whole thing because otherwise you would seriously depressed about the way in which Hodgson has with the help of H&G helped to turn us into a laughing stock. It's a desperate state of affairs and the sooner Woy realises he's out of his depth and always will be the better.

The irony in this post is fabulous. Calling Hodgson, the current custodian of the post of manager of LFC "Woy" is bad enough. By claiming that people are laughing at us because of him while you call him infantile pathetic names is totally missing the point that the media and other clubs supporters are having a w@nkfest that LFC fans "the greatest and most knowledgable, most passionate, most loyal fans in the world" are taking the pi'ss out of their manager. That to me is far more embarrassing and sad than the league position were in at the moment.
Well done shabba
:cool:

by **Igor Zidane** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:49 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:The irony in this post is fabulous. Calling Hodgson, the current custodian of the post of manager of LFC "Woy" is bad enough. By claiming that people are laughing at us because of him while you call him infantile pathetic names is totally missing the point that the media and other clubs supporters are having a w@nkfest that LFC fans "the greatest and most knowledgable, most passionate, most loyal fans in the world" are taking the pi'ss out of their manager. That to me is far more embarrassing and sad than the league position were in at the moment.
Well done shabba

Does that not tell you how serious the situation is though thommo .That lfc fans including myself i suppose should have such a lack of respect for one of there managers . Tells me everything about hodgsons tenure in charge . I don't consider myself an infantile moron i reckon i'm pretty knowledgable when it comes to lfc and my footy . So how come i have no respect for our manager (and i don't ) ? What has happened that has turned me and thousands of other LFC supporters to shun "THE LIVERPOOL WAY" ? Are we sheep? are we media led? Are we just nasty and horrible and it's in our nature ? Questions that can be answered by so many ,but a few can't seem to accept.

by **taff** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:48 pm

What if we ignored our personal feelings for Roy or Rafa and simply looked at the club and where it should go to be successful again.

Is Roy the man we should invest the next few years in?

Should we bite the bullet and accept that to see the best of Roy its unfair to judge him this season as its not his team and his methods are still being ingrained at the club.

Is he a "Liverpool" manager. Not a criticism of him or his methods but are his methods and beliefs the same as what the fans and the custodians of the clubs beliefs want.

Have we reached a chicken and egg situation where we are more interested in having a go or blindly defending him. Should we wipe the slate clean just to give the guy a break

If we get rid are we on the slippery road that many clubs have travelled. The Geordies being a fine example.

If we keep him are we settling for mediocrity that might become ingrained in the club.

Personally I think get rid if we get the RIGHT man to take over. I have nothing against him and do not like or respect the Woy digs etc but I am a Liverpool fan and I honestly think that he might steady the ship and even get top four but he simply hasnt got that x factor we need. We have to pick our fights more carefully and I cant agree with the personal digs against him but I am also dismayed by him as a manager and a focal point for the club and he may very well be an excellent coach but I just dont see that magic that a top club needs

by **metalhead** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:06 pm

taff wrote:What if we ignored our personal feelings for Roy or Rafa and simply looked at the club and where it should go to be successful again.

Is Roy the man we should invest the next few years in?

Should we bite the bullet and accept that to see the best of Roy its unfair to judge him this season as its not his team and his methods are still being ingrained at the club.

Is he a "Liverpool" manager. Not a criticism of him or his methods but are his methods and beliefs the same as what the fans and the custodians of the clubs beliefs want.

Have we reached a chicken and egg situation where we are more interested in having a go or blindly defending him. Should we wipe the slate clean just to give the guy a break

If we get rid are we on the slippery road that many clubs have travelled. The Geordies being a fine example.

If we keep him are we settling for mediocrity that might become ingrained in the club.

Personally I think get rid if we get the RIGHT man to take over. I have nothing against him and do not like or respect the Woy digs etc but I am a Liverpool fan and I honestly think that he might steady the ship and even get top four but he simply hasnt got that x factor we need. We have to pick our fights more carefully and I cant agree with the personal digs against him but I am also dismayed by him as a manager and a focal point for the club and he may very well be an excellent coach but I just dont see that magic that a top club needs

Top post Taff, agree with it!

one of most sensible posts on this thraed

by **teamleader1** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:24 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:The irony in this post is fabulous. Calling Hodgson, the current custodian of the post of manager of LFC "Woy" is bad enough. By claiming that people are laughing at us because of him while you call him infantile pathetic names is totally missing the point that the media and other clubs supporters are having a w@nkfest that LFC fans "the greatest and most knowledgable, most passionate, most loyal fans in the world" are taking the pi'ss out of their manager. That to me is far more embarrassing and sad than the league position were in at the moment.
Well done shabba

Does that not tell you how serious the situation is though thommo .That lfc fans including myself i suppose should have such a lack of respect for one of there managers . Tells me everything about hodgsons tenure in charge . I don't consider myself an infantile moron i reckon i'm pretty knowledgable when it comes to lfc and my footy . So how come i have no respect for our manager (and i don't ) ? What has happened that has turned me and thousands of other LFC supporters to shun "THE LIVERPOOL WAY" ? Are we sheep? are we media led? Are we just nasty and horrible and it's in our nature ? Questions that can be answered by so many ,but a few can't seem to accept.

I don't see what all the fuss is about calling him Woy,
If he was doing well then I don't think anyone would give a fk to be honest.
But the fact is he acts like he is in charge of some small time outfit and tries to convince us all the same.
I was happy to see him come but have been shocked and disappointed by his negativity both on and off the pitch.
To actually say on tele that unless there was a massive influx of money to spend on the squad then no other manager could have come in and done a better job than him with this current bunch of players!
FFS we are lying 9th!
Are we meant to believe that that is exactly where we should expect to be?
What type of manager talks like that!

Pard's took over at Newcastle last week and was on the box yesterday saying that because of the size of the club they were EXPECTED to win every away game

Now whos statement inspired the team and the fans most?

RH is NOT the man for us and needs to go ASAP and let Daggers and Tommo take control until the summer at the very least.

Calling him Woy means nothing!
in fact I now wish he was still known as Woy of the Wovers and I would be happy if he finds somewhere were the gwass is gweener

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:16 pm

I'm sorry but after this ridiculous statement he should have made it his utmost priority to win back the support of us fans
just for those who regularly defend the man this is what I refer to :

" The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club. I, like everyone else at Liverpool, would be very happy if the ownership situation was clarified and in particular if we got a very good owner that could help us move forward. It is a major issue for a group of people who are very much anti the owners and anti the current people who are trying to solve the situation. I knew the situation existed before I arrived and it doesn’t help. But it is often the case that when things are conspiring against you there is always an extra thing to come in and make it that little bit worse. "

I could put forward literally countless quotes and sound bites that have soiled this media image of him being a true Gentleman .... but for me personally the above quote spoke volumes and it is the one that sealed his fate, and nothing he has said and done further has exonerated him ...the man has little regard for the fans and needs to go ,so we can wipe from our memories this fiasco since this supposed Gentleman took charge

by **teamleader1** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:09 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:I'm sorry but after this ridiculous statement he should have made it his utmost priority to win back the support of us fans
just for those who regularly defend the man this is what I refer to :

" The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club. I, like everyone else at Liverpool, would be very happy if the ownership situation was clarified and in particular if we got a very good owner that could help us move forward. It is a major issue for a group of people who are very much anti the owners and anti the current people who are trying to solve the situation. I knew the situation existed before I arrived and it doesn’t help. But it is often the case that when things are conspiring against you there is always an extra thing to come in and make it that little bit worse. "

I could put forward literally countless quotes and sound bites that have soiled this media image of him being a true Gentleman .... but for me personally the above quote spoke volumes and it is the one that sealed his fate, and nothing he has said and done further has exonerated him ...the man has little regard for the fans and needs to go ,so we can wipe from our memories this fiasco since this supposed Gentleman took charge

The one before the Spurs game was a another goodin

'It's difficult going to the big clubs - BUT we may just spring a surprise'

FFS :angry:

Could you ever imagine Fergie, Wenger and the like saying that?

by **mrt** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:41 pm

We've had 35 years to see the best of Hodgson, at various clubs around Europe, and, unfortunately for Roy, his very best is not good enough for LFC. I can see why people are clamouring for someone like Hiddink (who is older than Hodgson btw, not that I'm ageist), but my preference is for someone with a connection to the club. At least we'd have some sort of positive feeling towards them from the start. This may have helped us in the past to avoid the kind of situation we're in now and going down the Newcastle/Man City route.

by **dundreamin** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:01 pm

i think it was a travesty that Hodgson was installed as manager in the first place.although i suspect it was the vermins choice,as they wanted a yes man. A person who would not rock the boat. But the vermin weren't prepared of what was going to happen i think we have to write this season off,and maybe next season too. The mange etc will be laughing at us but let's be honest They,ve been doing that for 20 years now. NESV HAVE to get it right this time,and given time i think they will. YNWA

by **teamleader1** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:09 pm

Daggers and Tommo are a shoe in right now and would bite your hand off for the privilege.

Roy just seems to find comfort in convincing himself and anyone daft enough to believe him that the LFC job is on par with the likes of Fulham and Blackburn

I never went along with those who said the job was just to big for him
But I have to hold my hands up now and admit I was wrong.
I really don't think we can wait until summer, Daggers must be in charge to strengthen in the Jan window.

by **fivecups** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:03 pm

taff wrote:What if we ignored our personal feelings for Roy or Rafa and simply looked at the club and where it should go to be successful again.

Is Roy the man we should invest the next few years in?

Should we bite the bullet and accept that to see the best of Roy its unfair to judge him this season as its not his team and his methods are still being ingrained at the club.

Is he a "Liverpool" manager. Not a criticism of him or his methods but are his methods and beliefs the same as what the fans and the custodians of the clubs beliefs want.

Have we reached a chicken and egg situation where we are more interested in having a go or blindly defending him. Should we wipe the slate clean just to give the guy a break

If we get rid are we on the slippery road that many clubs have travelled. The Geordies being a fine example.

If we keep him are we settling for mediocrity that might become ingrained in the club.

Personally I think get rid if we get the RIGHT man to take over. I have nothing against him and do not like or respect the Woy digs etc but I am a Liverpool fan and I honestly think that he might steady the ship and even get top four but he simply hasnt got that x factor we need. We have to pick our fights more carefully and I cant agree with the personal digs against him but I am also dismayed by him as a manager and a focal point for the club and he may very well be an excellent coach but I just dont see that magic that a top club needs

Nice post Taff.

Completely agree about getting the RIGHT man in - I think it will be extremely difficult and a MASSIVE appointment for the future of our club.

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