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ruskiy playmaker wrote:Yeah buying an injured Aquilani was a strange decision, even though he's an exceptional player.  Rafa made a big mistake on that one.

Ben Patrick wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:because the people that are shouting the loudest about Roy still want Rafa.

Complete bollox! You have to back up a statement like that. Just because I said I'd take him back, it doesn't mean I wouldn't welcome another manager that's up to the job to come in and do the business. Again, some people's arguments on this forum are based on spite rather than what's good for the club. My case against Roy is that he's no good for this club. End of.

that's fair enough.

Replacing Roy would be for the good of the club imo.

So long as we are clear that Rafa coming back would not be a good idea at all.

Benny The Noon wrote:Ok ben what did you think when we actually bought them remembering hindsight is wonderful - two current Italian internationals , an England international and a extremely experienced prem performer - when he bought them did you immediately say "wrong signing " the same way people have down with the signings of Poulsen and Konchesky

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Maybe its being fuelled by the North-South divide? After all Cockneys are pretty much disliked everywhere up north.

Yes Scouser's are also well thought off in the Big Smoke ... what's your point ? this is about a man not being anywhere near good enough to manage our club ...North ,South divide will only serve to add a further  ingredient this forum could best do without .... isn't there enough prejudice without adding fuel to the fire .......  don't you agree ?

Emerald Red wrote:

ruskiy playmaker wrote:Yeah buying an injured Aquilani was a strange decision, even though he's an exceptional player.  Rafa made a big mistake on that one.

The thing about Benitez is that he clearly cracked under the pressure last season. Rafa should have walked in 2007 when the Yanks went behind his back and undermined his job by talking to Klinsman. He was obviously a dead man walking from that point, but to walk away having just gotten to another CL final would be defeatist. Same with the season before last. He should have walked, but to get so close to the title, it would have been wrong in many ways. The thing that's clear, that some people can't seem to grasp, is that had Benitez walked back in 2007, the Yanks would have replaced with someone like Roy, and where would we be now? Buying to sell, selling to buy? No Torres? Gerrard would probably have split too. It's purely conjecture on my part, but a manager like Roy with the other two Yanks in charge? Christ! That would have been a nightmare scenario. Benitez stayed to fight for success at this club. Roy's just happy being here and just admited that he can't do better than mid-table. As the Americans say: go figure.

SouthCoastShankly wrote:I am purely trying to understand why there's a faction here who think so differently as the other?

Listen its obvious that its practically now a given based on universal opinion that Roy Hodgson is clearly not the man for the job ....however this is a forum and there will always be differing opinions ....its probably best you just refrain from trying to explain which side people lean on ....it will just give you a headache mate ...   

Ben Patrick wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Ok ben what did you think when we actually bought them remembering hindsight is wonderful - two current Italian internationals , an England international and a extremely experienced prem performer - when he bought them did you immediately say "wrong signing " the same way people have down with the signings of Poulsen and Konchesky

i knew nothing about Dossena at all so couldnt have an opinion.
Aquilani to replace Alonso was i thought always going to be a gamble. He should have gone for sneijder who went for less.
Johnson i actually quite like. But we did pay over the odds.

Also i said this at the time but Alonso signed a new contract the season before we sold him, so i wouldnt have sold him. He would have been reminded that he signed a contract and that we were close the season before to united and they were losing their best player. I wouldnt have let him go at all, especially not gambling on someone who every man and his dog knew had a poor injury record and that was in the less demanding italian league.

And the other point is, i am not paid to make these decisions. If i was i would be expected to get them right.

Benny The Noon wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Ok ben what did you think when we actually bought them remembering hindsight is wonderful - two current Italian internationals , an England international and a extremely experienced prem performer - when he bought them did you immediately say "wrong signing " the same way people have down with the signings of Poulsen and Konchesky

i knew nothing about Dossena at all so couldnt have an opinion.
Aquilani to replace Alonso was i thought always going to be a gamble. He should have gone for sneijder who went for less.
Johnson i actually quite like. But we did pay over the odds.

Also i said this at the time but Alonso signed a new contract the season before we sold him, so i wouldnt have sold him. He would have been reminded that he signed a contract and that we were close the season before to united and they were losing their best player. I wouldnt have let him go at all, especially not gambling on someone who every man and his dog knew had a poor injury record and that was in the less demanding italian league.

And the other point is, i am not paid to make these decisions. If i was i would be expected to get them right.

We wouldnt of been able to get Snejdier on a 5 mil euro now , 5 mil euro later and another 5 mil in a year plus a few more mill depending on circumstances . They would of wanted the money up front - plus would Snejdier of even come to us .

I totally agree that players should be told to stay if they sign new contracts - especially when they have a fair number of years to go but its not really done anymore - more power to the player .

SouthCoastShankly wrote:

metalhead wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Hate is too strong a word - don't hate Hodgson , just don't rate him a good enough manager to be at our club .

A lot are ''hating'' him, personally

I don't rate him too.

I can't understand the whole hate thing either.

Maybe its being fuelled by the North-South divide? After all Cockneys are pretty much disliked everywhere up north.

Managers like Souness deserved to be hated more than Hodgson. His stubbornness and ineptitude almost got us relegated on more than one occasion.

Are You for REAL?

Souness made some BIG Mistakes i'll grant you, Selling his Story to "That Rag" we don't talk about was the Biggest Whopper he ever made.

But where do you get he nearly got us relegated on more than one occassion???

Don't know how long you've supported this Team, but i'd look your facts up before posting , Souness took over back end of the '91 Season, we finished runners up, the next two season's we finished 6th, with an FA Cup in '92, he was sacked the following January we ended up that season 8th.

We never ever once in all that time were in the relegation zone unlike this year.

So your point is half right, yes we hate cockney's and no Souness although a prize .... didn't take us near relegation.

Ciggy wrote:

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Maybe its being fuelled by the North-South divide? After all Cockneys are pretty much disliked everywhere up north.

Maybe not? Koncheskys mar on FB.