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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:04 pm

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Ring-of-Fire wrote:No. It's because they were all busy jizzing over their keyboards when Rafa left and were absolute in their convictions that Roy would get us playing better with his 'motivational skills'. Now their predictions have turned to sh!t, they are too embarrassed and stubborn to admit they were wrong about most things they spewed out.

What are you on about? most on here who wanted Rafa to go also had doubts on Roy's ability to improve from last season's diabolical performances, but they were prepared to give him a chance because he deserved one from the start.

Don't change the tune MH... most anti-Rafa's were saying Roy will do better than Rafa's last season... blah blah blah...

i think you'll find they said "he couldn't do any worse", and that would be correct. We're no worse off than last season.

How come the facts show us as worse off than last season in terms of points , wins , losses , goals scored , goals conceeded and position in table .
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Postby metalhead » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:10 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:How come the facts show us as worse off than last season in terms of points , wins , losses , goals scored , goals conceeded and position in table .

But the season hasn't ended yet benny, you can't compare until this season finishes.

if it isn't an improvement, then fair enough
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:18 pm

metalhead wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:How come the facts show us as worse off than last season in terms of points , wins , losses , goals scored , goals conceeded and position in table .

But the season hasn't ended yet benny, you can't compare until this season finishes.

if it isn't an improvement, then fair enough

People are saying he is doing no worse than previous manager are they not ? yet facts show he is

Rocky is saying he is doing a fantastic job ?

We can only judge what we have seen

Going by previous games this season what is it that people can see that will show us that Hodgson will end up doing better than previous manager ?

Can someone please point out the reasons , and back them up .
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Postby metalhead » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:26 pm

You never know, you can't know until it happens. We still have 6 months till the season ends.

Now lets put in some scenarios, come in May we are 5th or 4th in the league and won the UEFA cup or F.A cup, then is this an IMPROVEMENT from last season or not?

I totally agree with you regarding our performances that does not look good and probably won't change, and want some change to be made. However, I still have hope in myself that we can still turn this season around for the better. We can't back up facts or anything because no one really knows what will happen in the future, unless your psychic. All we know that there is plenty to play for and we all hope for the best.
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:27 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
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Benny The Noon wrote:How come the facts show us as worse off than last season in terms of points , wins , losses , goals scored , goals conceeded and position in table .

But the season hasn't ended yet benny, you can't compare until this season finishes.

if it isn't an improvement, then fair enough

People are saying he is doing no worse than previous manager are they not ? yet facts show he is

Rocky is saying he is doing a fantastic job ?

We can only judge what we have seen

Going by previous games this season what is it that people can see that will show us that Hodgson will end up doing better than previous manager ?

Can someone please point out the reasons , and back them up .

Rafa nearly ruined the club.. Benny take one day off from being a spaz and move on. All you do every fecking day is ask the same.. Rafa was ruining the club. Lets see how Roy does at the end of the season before we judge.
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Postby Ring-of-Fire » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:29 pm

dawson99 wrote:Rafa nearly ruined the club

How exactly?
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Postby rocky29 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:30 pm

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rocky29 wrote:i think Roy is doing a fantastic job especially with the rubbish squad he inherited and i really hope he carries on till the end of the season in the same vain.

It what way is he doing a fantastic job

just what i said im impressed with what hes got to work with. He seems to be getting his message accross to the players like lucas and maxi. Yes hes made a few tiny mistakes but whos perfect. Im quite happy to continue and give him my support til at least the end of season. No manager in the world would of turned the current squad into title contenders. So lets give him abit of time to see whats what if by may hes struggling to get us in the top 5 then we can revalute but until then stop the pathetic moaning after every single game its childish and boring.

No one said anything about turning into title contenders but surely the minimum must be to do better than previous manager - is he - No he isnt . So why is he doing worse than the previous manager with the same squad .

Why should people give him more time when he is doing a worse job than previous manager ?

In what way is that doing a fantastic job ?

He is currently breaking our worst records

Worst start for 50 odd years , worst record away , goal difference , lowest position in 20 odd years

How is that fantastic .

worst job than rafa. Remind when the last trophy rafa won with us in say the last 4 years? Roys been here barely 6 months.
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Postby metalhead » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:31 pm

dawson99 wrote:Rafa nearly ruined the club.. Benny take one day off from being a spaz and move on. All you do every fecking day is ask the same.. Rafa was ruining the club. Lets see how Roy does at the end of the season before we judge.

He didn't daws, he took us as far as he could and lost it in the end.

That is all

Benny, why the hell would you listen to Rocky? :D
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:31 pm

metalhead wrote:You never know, you can't know until it happens. We still have 6 months till the season ends.

Now lets put in some scenarios, come in May we are 5th or 4th in the league and won the UEFA cup or F.A cup, then is this an IMPROVEMENT from last season or not?

I totally agree with you regarding our performances that does not look good and probably won't change, and want some change to be made. However, I still have hope in myself that we can still turn this season around for the better. We can't back up facts or anything because no one really knows what will happen in the future, unless your psychic. All we know that there is plenty to play for and we all hope for the best.

If that di happen then yes it is an improvement MH

BUT there is nothing we have seen so far this season which points to us even getting anywhere near that scenario is there .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:32 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:How come the facts show us as worse off than last season in terms of points , wins , losses , goals scored , goals conceeded and position in table .

But the season hasn't ended yet benny, you can't compare until this season finishes.

if it isn't an improvement, then fair enough

People are saying he is doing no worse than previous manager are they not ? yet facts show he is

Rocky is saying he is doing a fantastic job ?

We can only judge what we have seen

Going by previous games this season what is it that people can see that will show us that Hodgson will end up doing better than previous manager ?

Can someone please point out the reasons , and back them up .

Rafa nearly ruined the club.. Benny take one day off from being a spaz and move on. All you do every fecking day is ask the same.. Rafa was ruining the club. Lets see how Roy does at the end of the season before we judge.

1. How exactly did Rafa nearly ruin the club

2. If rafa nearly ruined it what is Hodgson doing then when he is currently doing a worse job than what Rafa did .
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:32 pm

metalhead wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Rafa nearly ruined the club.. Benny take one day off from being a spaz and move on. All you do every fecking day is ask the same.. Rafa was ruining the club. Lets see how Roy does at the end of the season before we judge.

He didn't daws, he took us as far as he could and lost it in the end.

That is all

Benny, why the hell would you listen to Rocky? :D

he took us as far, and if hed continued we would have been in a lot rmoe trouble than we are in now... thats how i see it.. no matter how bennty the moron will try and change facts we were awful and changes were needed
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:33 pm

rocky29 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
rocky29 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
rocky29 wrote:i think Roy is doing a fantastic job especially with the rubbish squad he inherited and i really hope he carries on till the end of the season in the same vain.

It what way is he doing a fantastic job

just what i said im impressed with what hes got to work with. He seems to be getting his message accross to the players like lucas and maxi. Yes hes made a few tiny mistakes but whos perfect. Im quite happy to continue and give him my support til at least the end of season. No manager in the world would of turned the current squad into title contenders. So lets give him abit of time to see whats what if by may hes struggling to get us in the top 5 then we can revalute but until then stop the pathetic moaning after every single game its childish and boring.

No one said anything about turning into title contenders but surely the minimum must be to do better than previous manager - is he - No he isnt . So why is he doing worse than the previous manager with the same squad .

Why should people give him more time when he is doing a worse job than previous manager ?

In what way is that doing a fantastic job ?

He is currently breaking our worst records

Worst start for 50 odd years , worst record away , goal difference , lowest position in 20 odd years

How is that fantastic .

worst job than rafa. Remind when the last trophy rafa won with us in say the last 4 years? Roys been here barely 6 months.

And in those 6 months Hodgson has broken how many records for Liverpool - and the wrong kind of records .

Dont even start comparing the two managers as Rafa wins hands down every single time - only have to look at their records as managers and one stands out while the other sits in the background .
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Postby mart » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:35 pm

dawson99 wrote:Rafa nearly ruined the club..

Moronic comments like these is why this forum struggles to get away from the R vs R debate. If anyone nearly ruined the club it was the two yanks. They are gone so Roy has the best working conditions we have had in this club for many years. Sadly it didnt take long for the positive feeling from getting rid of the yanks disappeared.
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:35 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
rocky29 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
rocky29 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
rocky29 wrote:i think Roy is doing a fantastic job especially with the rubbish squad he inherited and i really hope he carries on till the end of the season in the same vain.

It what way is he doing a fantastic job

just what i said im impressed with what hes got to work with. He seems to be getting his message accross to the players like lucas and maxi. Yes hes made a few tiny mistakes but whos perfect. Im quite happy to continue and give him my support til at least the end of season. No manager in the world would of turned the current squad into title contenders. So lets give him abit of time to see whats what if by may hes struggling to get us in the top 5 then we can revalute but until then stop the pathetic moaning after every single game its childish and boring.

No one said anything about turning into title contenders but surely the minimum must be to do better than previous manager - is he - No he isnt . So why is he doing worse than the previous manager with the same squad .

Why should people give him more time when he is doing a worse job than previous manager ?

In what way is that doing a fantastic job ?

He is currently breaking our worst records

Worst start for 50 odd years , worst record away , goal difference , lowest position in 20 odd years

How is that fantastic .

worst job than rafa. Remind when the last trophy rafa won with us in say the last 4 years? Roys been here barely 6 months.

And in those 6 months Hodgson has broken how many records for Liverpool - and the wrong kind of records .

Dont even start comparing the two managers as Rafa wins hands down every single time - only have to look at their records as managers and one stands out while the other sits in the background .

RAFA HAS GONE.. GET OVER IT... HE BACAME LESS THAN USELESS!!!!! OUR PLAY WAS AWFUL. WE NEEDED A CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AAARRRGGGHHH HOW MUCH SIMPLER CAN IT BE PUT
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:35 pm

dawson99 wrote:
metalhead wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Rafa nearly ruined the club.. Benny take one day off from being a spaz and move on. All you do every fecking day is ask the same.. Rafa was ruining the club. Lets see how Roy does at the end of the season before we judge.

He didn't daws, he took us as far as he could and lost it in the end.

That is all

Benny, why the hell would you listen to Rocky? :D

he took us as far, and if hed continued we would have been in a lot rmoe trouble than we are in now... thats how i see it.. no matter how bennty the moron will try and change facts we were awful and changes were needed

A change may well of been needed - but a change for the good - an improvement on the previous manager - not the step backwards Hodgson has taken us . Rafas last season is a defence for the poor job Hodgson is doing .

You have no idea where we would be if Rafa had stayed - but put it this way - we were never ever as low with Rafa as we have been with Hodgson .
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